Unconditional Love means NO Judgment!

But also without Love......?

A judgmental attitude is an essential survival instinct.

Without it, you set yourself up to become easy prey.

So then "Love" has conditions.....?

Love SUX.

So then "Love" has conditions.....?

that doesnt answer my question.. and its the same politically correct bs ive heard for years... no one can explain what judgment is or isnt when its in relation to unconditional love...

It you take the word for what it is literally, it means that you do not make a call on if an action is good or bad or in your own best interests.. because if i decide that being abused is not in my best interests then I have made a judgement on his actions, therefore I can not possibly love him unconditionally...

If I adhere to the love unconditionally theory, then I must not make a judgement on his behavior at all and simply accept that it is what it is ...

See how this makes no sense?.. and no one can explain it.. in all the years ive been involved with spiritual people, no one has a sufficient answer for it..

Discernment, grasshopper. You need to become aware of discernment.

I can love you and still disconnect from your life. Think about it...there are 6 or 7 billion people on the planet. You can love everyone of them, but they need not be in your life. In fact, they cannot be in your life.

For instance, you can love a homicidal maniac. But you also discern that you cannot be in his presence or he might kill you. In fact, he needs to be locked up where he has almost no interactions with anyone. No judgment, just awareness.

Judgment often implies an emotional attachment. Discernment does not.

Discernment, grasshopper. You need to become aware of discernment.

I can love you and still disconnect from your life. Think about it...there are 6 or 7 billion people on the planet. You can love everyone of them, but they need not be in your life. In fact, they cannot be in your life.

For instance, you can love a homicidal maniac. But you also discern that you cannot be in his presence or he might kill you. In fact, he needs to be locked up where he has almost no interactions with anyone. No judgment, just awareness.

Judgment often implies an emotional attachment. Discernment does not.

Sure. You are to shun wrong doing. It´s the wise love which is needed for the salvation.

Good answer! Like you say: Being aware of negative conditions doesn't mean we can't still Love the man......just not the action of the man! :)

Did everyone hear that? This makes the most sense to me....:)

Tough Love huh? :(

For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!

when i contemplated the idea of Judgment Day...i figured it to be not a day when we stand before God to be chastised for our behavior but a day in which we should use good Judgment to save our own lives.

the whole concept has been twisted.

I have to run, it's always nice catching up with you Obe!

I am sorry that you can't see the answer in my reply. For me, Unconditional Love does not mean that I place myself in harms way or if I find myself in a harmful situation that I don't take steps to remove myself from that situation.

It is impossible for humans to love another human unconditionally ...

Here's how I look at it, and everyone can take it or leave it as they see fit!:

God Love us all Unconditionally, but for US to receive of that Love, there are conditions that must be met! I do not believe that God Judges us..........cause we already do enough of that to ourselves!

Thus I started this thread, that we might all come to understand better, how to define OUR God! :)

that makes no sense unless your god utilizes an intermediary that imposes conditions, an intermediary whom you are not telling us about

Ah, you mean like an "Iron Rod"? Like Satan perhaps......who totally passes Judgment upon all of us???

no
i am suggesting a possibility in an attempt to make sense of your statement

For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!

LOL........then Unconditional Love must suck unconditionally!?! lol ;)

yes no judgment lets just invite homeless excon rapists to live in our homes, doesn't matter that they have raped before, im sure your wife and daughters will just love that sense of naive idealism

Don't be so arrogant.

If love is suppose to be unconditional, then you're too naive to not notice, that is a condition in itself.

to say that god loves us is fine

but to say god does not judge the wicked IS NOT.

here is my reason.

i could literally go out and kill kill kill and kill (no i wouldnt) god would still love me but i must account for my sins.

if god did not punish, then i could get away with it.

to say that god will not punish us people he loves us isnt correct.

if that were the case we could sin, sin, and sin somemore and get away with it becuase i could make the exuse, god loves me god wouldnt do so and so.

there are many examples in the bible where god destoryed because of sin,god punishment/judgement.

noah, sodom and gomorrah.

did god not love those people? god did love them, and yet god killed them.


did your parents ever punish you? and yet i bet they still love you.