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Unconditional Love means NO Judgment!

 
Debauchery

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Thats why I am single.

A life lived without judgment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543824

But also without Love......?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You don't have to be in a romantic/sexual relationship to have love. Unconditional love tends to come from family members..children. Rarely from a significant other.
 Quoting: Debauchery

Exactly: Sex is physical, while Love is spiritual.....
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Love is spiritual..so very true.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
ObeWayneKenobe  (OP)

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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe




Sorry, but I don't buy this statement at all. I could have a son or a daughter, and if they committed a murder, I could support them going to prison for it and never stop loving them one little bit as much. Especially, if they could be a threat to other loved children. Terms like "unconditional love" are so very indicative of how sloppy modern thinking is.
 Quoting: Dave 1544389

That is why I say that; while God loves us "Unconditionally", WE on the other hand, in order to align ourselves with THAT Love, must fulfill certain conditions!

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Unconditional Love does not command or rule......
 Quoting: Ozicell:

Or pass Judgment.....?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Care to show where God said his love was unconditional?
Or better yet, where God defines love as unconditional?
ObeWayneKenobe  (OP)

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Unconditional Love does not command or rule......
 Quoting: Ozicell:

Or pass Judgment.....?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Care to show where God said his love was unconditional?
Or better yet, where God defines love as unconditional?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030

That's a good question.......I think it's in the bible, but since I'm house sitting today, I don't have access to where I can look it up........maybe some of our scripture buffs can!

On a personal level, I know it to be True.......but that comes from personal experience, so I don't really know how to explain THAT one! lol (sorry)
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Unconditional Love does not command or rule......
 Quoting: Ozicell:

Or pass Judgment.....?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Care to show where God said his love was unconditional?
Or better yet, where God defines love as unconditional?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030

That's a good question.......I think it's in the bible, but since I'm house sitting today, I don't have access to where I can look it up........maybe some of our scripture buffs can!

On a personal level, I know it to be True.......but that comes from personal experience, so I don't really know how to explain THAT one! lol (sorry)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

I think I get it from all the times I've been BAD in my life, and yet; God continued to work with me, in order to help me see how I was only hurting myself! (and how to STOP hurting myself!)
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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe
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If you surprise your-Self in the act of judging, then Forgive right away both your-Self and the object of your judgment. This will remove the distortions (karma) that was created with judgment.
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The path of acceptance means accepting people (ALL people) exactly the way they are...
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Where their is unconditional love
The conditions have to be right
The planets must align
The magnetic forces energy running the mind race with the universal courses of classes
Beaming the love from he rays of the Sun oh did you pray?
No you spoke to the UNIVERSE
The wave gave the unconditional LOVE of a angel in flight
Flying right into my heart
Racing around like race cars bulging heart beating techno oh KNOWS! SO Happy so happy
Time Time Happy
Oh Indeed
LOVE
ObeWayneKenobe  (OP)

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If you surprise your-Self in the act of judging, then Forgive right away both your-Self and the object of your judgment. This will remove the distortions (karma) that was created with judgment.
 Quoting: Valtor

That's great advise........however, what if it's your job to be a Judge(as in court)?
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The path of acceptance means accepting people (ALL people) exactly the way they are...
 Quoting: Valtor

Even killers and child molesters?
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lets say you do something really fucked up.

is it okay for a person to acknowledge that what you did was really fucked up or is that judgement?

it seems like that even acknowledging the screwed up behavior of people would lead to being called judgmental.

basically it seems that a statement like yours could be used in such a manner where people could continually be assholes and we'd all be powerless to call them on it out of fear of being considered judging assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543611


Something that is done with true unconditional love, comes from the Source of Love itself. We, as humans, can either do things with Unconditional Love or we can do things without it (although most people do not know the difference and would say otherwise).

It is not being judgemental for letting a person know, while in a state of receiving unconditional love, that what they did was not with the purpose of unconditional love, but through their own emotional/mental desires.

I can try to explain it, but it really requires experience to know the difference and on how to 'call out' a person for their negative behavior.

Now, here's another key, if a person does something that sort of 'ruffles up our feathers', is it really negative behavior on their part or is it just us judging them (which is the op's question.) Again, this is a fine line. I try to practice and learn from this. In the end, there's really nothing I can do to correct bad behavior, other than saying something about it, but experience tells me that most of these people are just not willing to listen and learn. Just like when I'm doing something bad, even if the other person is right, I'm not ready to listen and learn from my mistakes.

Weird. Just weird. One day I'll get it right.
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Be aware, OP. No judgement means neither good 'nor bad. Only acceptance.
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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


unconditional love means that in spite of judgment love prevails by choice
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OP, i have had this dilema for a while now and since you have posted this thread perhaps its a good opportunity to get anothers point of view..

I totally get the thread title but do not see how it can be applied in humanity's current state..

If the no judgment rule applies to unconditional love, then that means that should I leave my husband because he abuses me that I am being judgemental and I do not love him unconditionally, however if i love him unconditionally and accept that there are reasons for his behaviour I therefore must stay, endure more of the abuse and find a way to be happy that I unconditionally love my husband while I feel like crap inside..

I would love it if someone has the insight to explain this..
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


Love doesn't abuse and hurt others. What I call God is the Source of Love and Light. It's is all loving. This Love from Source makes you feel good in your heart and wants the best for you and everyone always. When we learn how to access this Unconditional Love with our hearts properly, we can ask our hearts if we can stay with a person, help us to decide on places to go, things to buy, etc. The list is endless. Sometimes, Source makes us stay in places we do not want to be, but need to be for our own benefit. But your heart knows exactly where it wants to be.

To practice using your heart properly, you must try to learn to know the difference on how a joyful heart feels vs. how an angry heart feels. If you recall a joyful day, you heart area feels better, but if you recall anger, you heart feels closed and tight. It's awful. So if you ask your heart, should i stay with my abusive husband and it feels closed and tight, then the answer is no. If you ask the same question and it feels joyful and light, then the answer is yes and you have some lessons to learn from that.

if this interests you, try [link to www.open-your-heart.org.uk] for the heart strengthening exercises. i've been following the program and it truly works. i get answers that are always in my best interest. it takes practice, but once a person knows how to use their heart properly for those answers, there will be NO DOUBT on the course of actions in their lives.

sorry to op for butting in.
ObeWayneKenobe  (OP)

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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


unconditional love means that in spite of judgment love prevails by choice
 Quoting: Salt

Oh THAT'S a good way of looking at it........thanks Salt! applause
ObeWayneKenobe  (OP)

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Be aware, OP. No judgement means neither good 'nor bad. Only acceptance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1433374

Well, good and bad are only perceptions......to Satan, God is bad! So right from wrong is standardized by "Unconditional Lave" I suppose.....?
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I don't think Unconditional Love overrides balanced behavior.......I think somehow they are compatible!?!

In other words: evil behavior must return to balanced action, before it can find acceptance back into a condition of Unconditional Love! (So in and of itself, that is a Condition that must be met!)
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In order to love you must be able to hate and that requires judgement, for to love requires the hatred of those things that might destroy that which you love, again that requires judgement.
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In order to love you must be able to hate and that requires judgement, for to love requires the hatred of those things that might destroy that which you love, again that requires judgement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162851

Yes, WE judge.......but God does not!(although Many believe God does!)

God on the other hand: Measures the intent of the heart........notice I didn't say "judges"........but rather: "measures"!

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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


unconditional love means that in spite of judgment love prevails by choice
 Quoting: Salt

Oh THAT'S a good way of looking at it........thanks Salt! applause
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


hf
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If you surprise your-Self in the act of judging, then Forgive right away both your-Self and the object of your judgment. This will remove the distortions (karma) that was created with judgment.
 Quoting: Valtor

That's great advise........however, what if it's your job to be a Judge(as in court)?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

It is not possible to judge without creating distortions. It is also nearly impossible to be here in 3rd density, veiled as we are, and not create distortions. Hence why it is important to forgive your-Self. :)

Regarding the job as a judge, well the concept of a "job" by itself is a distortion...
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The path of acceptance means accepting people (ALL people) exactly the way they are...
 Quoting: Valtor

Even killers and child molesters?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

Oh YES ! They are creating powerful catalysts.

If you are walking the positive path and if you can truly forgive them or even better not judge them, then you used the catalyst to polarize your-Self more in the positive.
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The path of acceptance means accepting people (ALL people) exactly the way they are...
 Quoting: Valtor

Even killers and child molesters?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

Oh YES ! They are creating powerful catalysts.

If you are walking the positive path and if you can truly forgive them or even better not judge them, then you used the catalyst to polarize your-Self more in the positive.
 Quoting: Valtor

Thank you for your input Valtor: I find it Truly enlightening! :)
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Unconditional Love does not command or rule......
 Quoting: Ozicell:

Or pass Judgment.....?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Care to show where God said his love was unconditional?
Or better yet, where God defines love as unconditional?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030

That's a good question.......I think it's in the bible, but since I'm house sitting today, I don't have access to where I can look it up........maybe some of our scripture buffs can!

On a personal level, I know it to be True.......but that comes from personal experience, so I don't really know how to explain THAT one! lol (sorry)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Not exactly the wording you are probably looking for but this is close to the theme

Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:43-48
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

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1 Corinthians 6:3-5

King James Version (KJV)

3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
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Everything is essentially amoral. Do not look at things right or wrong, but rather as circumstances.
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The Love that you withhold is the pain that you carry...lifetime after lifetime.
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Unconditional LOVE is unconditional because it is ALL-POWERFUL and ALL-CONQUERING, through its LOVE and therefore not in need to judge.
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For if there is Judgment, then that means there were Conditions!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Where does God say he loves you "unconditionaly"?





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