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Supreme Court: No 'Due Process' Guarantee for Those Unable to Pay Child Support

 
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Supreme Court: No 'Due Process' Guarantee for Those Unable to Pay Child Support
It may not be a crime to be poor, but it can land you behind bars if you also are behind on your child-support payments.

The [Supreme Court] ruled 5-4 in June that poor parents are not entitled to a court-appointed lawyer when facing jail for non-payment of child support.

Instead, the justices said, states should use “substantial procedural safeguards” to ensure that those who have no means to pay are not locked up.

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I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children.

Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet?

How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me...
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
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And I'm not condoning the unsupporting man. I'm just saying there are not enough jobs to go around. Not everybody can be one of Obama's construction workers. How about the woman give her kids to the man and she works to support them while he's struggling????? I don't want to pay for any more prisons to be built and manned.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything?

She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.

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True -- any feminist or Liberal would have to agree with you.


If the woman decides to keep it, she has the responsibility to
pay for it. A man should have the discretion to allow her to make
the baby a bastard-child, and in reality the woman decides this.

Because in the end, judges also award custody of the child
to the mother 95 percent of the time.

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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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clappa
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
 Quoting: pistypisty 1498982


Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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the man can choose not to ejaculate




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The Supeme Cunts are obviously wrong. They're idiots who only pretend to be human beings.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything?

She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539347
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True -- any feminist or Liberal would have to agree with you.


If the woman decides to keep it, she has the responsibility to
pay for it. A man should have the discretion to allow her to make
the baby a bastard-child, and in reality the woman decides this.

Because in the end, judges also award custody of the child
to the mother 95 percent of the time.

.
 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


A bull shit system I think. Where is the right for a man to stay fatherless when the mother should take all responsibility when she decides to have a baby without the mans consent?
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.
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So does she.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539347
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.

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She has the right to keep her legs together.

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Since when does the man have any say in anything?

She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539347
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True -- any feminist or Liberal would have to agree with you.


If the woman decides to keep it, she has the responsibility to
pay for it. A man should have the discretion to allow her to make
the baby a bastard-child, and in reality the woman decides this.

Because in the end, judges also award custody of the child
to the mother 95 percent of the time.

.
 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


A bull shit system I think. Where is the right for a man to stay fatherless when the mother should take all responsibility when she decides to have a baby without the mans consent?
 Quoting: Cylo Serious


His sperm is his consent.
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I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children.

Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet?

How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520768

Who pays for those children who have "no father" listed on the birth certificate?
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
 Quoting: pistypisty 1498982


Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category.
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Sorry if you took it that way, I certainly didn't mean that all women do that because I'm a divorced and remarried woman. I get $50 a week and my daughter would it whether her dad helped or not. I'm sure you are taking good care of yours in spite of the father. My only point is that the law is lopsided in regards to the non supporting parents. how would the women feel if the kids were given to the men and he was given a free ride and the mother was put in jail if she couldn't keep up on support. Women know they will be supported therefore it is risk free for those who want to take advantage.
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I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children.

Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet?

How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520768

Who pays for those children who have "no father" listed on the birth certificate?
 Quoting: Buster Brown


UGHH... God?
Could these be his children?
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539347
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051
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She has the right to keep her legs together.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


Yes, but since she is ultimately responsible for the child all choices are hers.

No matter what decisions men make, those children have to be cared for daily. Daycare, food, clothing, etc. are on her to provide. She is just blessed if you reimburse her for some of the cost.
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
 Quoting: pistypisty 1498982


Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


Sorry if you took it that way, I certainly didn't mean that all women do that because I'm a divorced and remarried woman. I get $50 a week and my daughter would it whether her dad helped or not. I'm sure you are taking good care of yours in spite of the father. My only point is that the law is lopsided in regards to the non supporting parents. how would the women feel if the kids were given to the men and he was given a free ride and the mother was put in jail if she couldn't keep up on support. Women know they will be supported therefore it is risk free for those who want to take advantage.
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* I get $50 a week and my daughter would eat whether her dad helped or not.
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Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened.

This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539347
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051
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She has the right to keep her legs together.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


Yes, but since she is ultimately responsible for the child all choices are hers.

No matter what decisions men make, those children have to be cared for daily. Daycare, food, clothing, etc. are on her to provide. She is just blessed if you reimburse her for some of the cost.
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bump5abump5abump
I like how you put the obvious out there,
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Re: Supreme Court: No 'Due Process' Guarantee for Those Unable to Pay Child Support
I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children.

Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet?

How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520768

Who pays for those children who have "no father" listed on the birth certificate?
 Quoting: Buster Brown


UGHH... God?
Could these be his children?
 Quoting: Cylo Serious

Silly me...I was thinking maybe the taxpayer.
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The continuing war on the family unit, the intentional destruction of the most basic, primal and strongest bond a human can have, the blood ties of a family. The one thing that no government should be able to penetrate, the one thing that all humans are loyal to over and above their loyalty to government. Yes, their control over the people is almost complete. Pure fucking evil.
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I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children.

Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet?

How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520768

Who pays for those children who have "no father" listed on the birth certificate?
 Quoting: Buster Brown


UGHH... God?
Could these be his children?
 Quoting: Cylo Serious

Silly me...I was thinking maybe the taxpayer.
 Quoting: Buster Brown


I was thinking that all these Emaculant Conceptions must be perpetrated by the Man upstairs. Since that is his M.O.
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
 Quoting: pistypisty 1498982


Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category.
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The exception to the rule, only proves the rule.
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Since when does the man have any say in anything? She can keep it or abort it. He gets no say.
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He has the right to keep it in his pants.
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That sounds like a good plan. Thank god for porn.
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This should be taught in school. Teachers need to take a class and give them all OPTIONAL chores. The payment for chores done should be free time. At the end of each week the kids who earned the free time should have to split it with the girls that didn't bother and the boys should be sent to detention.
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Why do we reward a mother that can't support the children she has with free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food and now a free cell phone.... but a man who isn't working but had kids gets sent to prison????? Come on ladies, I thought we were for equality.
 Quoting: pistypisty 1498982


Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


The exception to the rule, only proves the rule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547425


I am single and I have two children. I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. And I never filed for child support. They are 10 and 7.
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Who pays for those children who have "no father" listed on the birth certificate?
 Quoting: Buster Brown


UGHH... God?
Could these be his children?
 Quoting: Cylo Serious

Silly me...I was thinking maybe the taxpayer.
 Quoting: Buster Brown


I was thinking that all these Emaculant Conceptions must be perpetrated by the Man upstairs. Since that is his M.O.
 Quoting: Cylo Serious

Same-same. It seems like God always needs money, anyway.
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Kids do best with both parents involved in their life. Right now we pay women to keep the Dad away. Child support goes up if there is less time for Dad. Why stay married...just cash in ladies. Make up some false abuse allegations to ensure favorable terms. Oh yes, and the various social programs out there pay more if Dad is not around. Bye Dad!





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