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Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?

 
stgeorge
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Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Nancy Lieder started channeling the Visitors from "Zeta Reticuli" conveniently after we all went gaa gaa over the betty Hill Start map. Over enthusiastic people started yelling "We have found the alien home world!!"
Why was that such a problem in the first place? Channeled messages claim all sorts of planets as homeworlds. Zeta was just one we thought we had proof for.But it is not.
People have claimed the Pleideas,Raelians,Arcturus even Andromada for that matter and delivered mostly rubbish.
Why do they claim all of these far away places when abductees were told

A>There is no faster than light drive

B.Space faring is dangerous.

Being that Nancy is genuinly in contacts with them as i was,they lie.
They are covert.They wish to keep their home a secret from us. According to the Star Map,it is our own solar system.Abductees recall being taken underground,not to the stars.Therefore I say they have bases here,under the ground.
If humans want to believe in some fabulous far away civilization on another planet,then more power to it.They enforce that in the channeled messages.

Note that 2IC never said they were from another planet when i was in contact with them.Nancy would say these Visitors were the Service to Self types just putting on a show for me and screwing me around.
The Source uses the old term "Elementals" for them,which means "of the earth". They can go into space,but it is still more like an expedition,even for them.
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03/28/2006 05:53 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
is one of them a 'ridiculous'?
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Cult element #5

Science is bad, Revealed Knowledge is good.
I am what I read.
stgeorge (OP)
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Being that the Visitors reside underground,they have to be wary being in close proximity to us.
Warnings were given about atomic testing. This is perhaps the only threat we are to them. A nuclear detonation sends shock waves all through the earth's crust.
"We will remain vigillant and ready to to interfere..." was one message written unconsciously by a contact.

I have a colleague hooked on the Zeat Mayatnik site where people channel the Zetans or aliens from "motherships".The messages are usual new Age drivel about Brotherly Love and "energies".

Although the channeling phenomenna is real,it is notoriously unreliable.
The trance psychic I rely on claims never to let another entity control him,it is contact with your Higher Self instead,and the information is much clearer.
In fact he said "There are NO other beings in this Universe on other worlds in the same form as self.This Universe or dimension was made for man alone..."
There you go.Directly opposite to these channelers AND the Ufo nuts.
stgeorge (OP)
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03/28/2006 06:13 AM
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Other planets in this solar system occupied.I would say yes,again underground.
The Betty Hill star map was of this solar system from the perspective of the Earth and indicated a few other planets.To which they went only "occassionaly" or only "exploratory".

Some contactees did mention Saturn,Mars or Jupiter,but as with most of them,the messages got weird and finally faded away.
One book "The Tiger's Fang" claims that these astral entities like to play pranks on humans,showing up as exotic aliens and making the humans deliver some wild message.
Researcher John Keel mentions contactees all being left in the lurch by their Space brothers.
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03/28/2006 06:20 AM

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Hey stgeorge! What are you doing over here?? You usually spend most of your time over at Unknown Country?
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame.
We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.”
stgeorge (OP)
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03/28/2006 06:23 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Then why did the Visitors do things with nancy or with myself?
From the "Tiger's Fang" I recall the line that "if the subject is at all psychic,then the entities can put on quite a show.Appearing in some exotic costume and convincing the victim to deliver some wild message..."
There you have an explanation as to why nancy does this.As I found out myself,the Visitors can convince you of almost anything,they can work on your mind. They didn't go as far with me,and in any case,the communications have stopped.
stgeorge (OP)
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To Analog Guy. Both Agnes and myself were banned from that forum.
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
idol,


What is Cult element #5 ??
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame.
We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.”
The Analog Guy

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03/28/2006 06:27 AM

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Sorry that happened. There ARE quite a few "tight asses" over there. Sort of like a clique rather than an open forum of discussion.
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame.
We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.”
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I belong to no cult.I just give the benifit of my experience with the phenomennon.
The Analog Guy

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03/28/2006 06:30 AM

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I have been intrigued for years at the reports of saucers seen diving under water or emerging from the sea. stgeorge
anyone have an idea of where these bases are?
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame.
We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.”
stgeorge (OP)
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03/28/2006 06:31 AM
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Are you familiar with Unknown Country as well as this forum Analog? Do you post there as well?
I found they were basically "discussing the weather" when there were facinating and controversial topics to talk about.
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03/28/2006 06:32 AM
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One for sure I think is the source for the Bermuda Triangle reports. A window upons up there.
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03/28/2006 06:34 AM

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Yes, I agree. There are a few "powerful" posters who stay on topic but there is an awful lot of chit chat as well. I check out that site a couple of times a week. I go by a different handle there. You used to get worked over pretty bad over there by a few people.
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame.
We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.”
stgeorge (OP)
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03/28/2006 06:37 AM
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And Agnes sttod by me so they banned her as well.
I figured they just want to sell books not analyze the issue.
Tante Tillie
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03/28/2006 06:37 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Julio 'Idol' Cesar, is a member of the Bush Cabal Cult !
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03/28/2006 06:44 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
If YOU were a schizophrenia, YOU might also hear them.


sigh
stgeorge (OP)
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03/28/2006 06:45 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
'Witnesses' is all have to say to that.
Cop out response.Ask the experiencers.
stgeorge (OP)
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
They used to say that comic books made kids crazy way back in the 40's remember? Too much imagination!
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
"What is Cult element #5 ??"

Science is bad, Revealed Knowledge is good.
I am what I read.
stgeorge (OP)
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Idol,you are hardly a representative of the scientific world.
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"Idol,you are hardly a representative of the scientific world."

Not yet! I will graduate by the end of this semester, God allowing.
I am what I read.
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03/28/2006 06:59 AM
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Yeah, I have been whipped away a few times. I remember coming to inside a building, like some kind of conference room it was and one of them little grey things come scurrying up to me, and fired something into my stomach. I could feel it spinning round inside and then it shot up into my brain. Then all of a sudden I became aware of some kind of mission we were on! I remember replying "Right, where we up to now?" Are they monitoring our transition out of the box? or, are they forcing us out of it?

And the location of that place, I got the impression it was the French Alps.

But strange experiences....I've grown up having them! nobody would believe me if I told them it all! Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction!
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03/28/2006 08:47 AM
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Faster than light travel IS possible if you "bend" space.

This is accomplished by creating a zone around your spaceship, whereby gravity is DECREASED in front of the ship in the direction you are traveling, and INCREASED behind the ship.

You are then "pushed" much faster.

Also, anyone who is involved in "channeling" is probably contacting DEMONS, not space brothers.
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03/28/2006 09:18 AM
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Sounds like you were taken by the selfish aliens. They come in 2 flavors you know. If your stories are true, which I'm sure they are not, then you'd better be careful what you wish for sonny. doomsol
stgeorge (OP)
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I wished for an adventure and contact.I was not dissapointed.
I have been shown so much it is incredible. But I am not one of these abductee horror cases.
stgeorge (OP)
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I agree that anyone can make up phoney stories. But what does that make you when you obliterate the good ones?
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03/28/2006 05:11 PM
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drat, i thought they were from las cruces, now i gotta put up with house guests
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idol_harobed
3/28/2006 6:55 AM

"Idol,you are hardly a representative of the scientific world.

Not yet! I will graduate by the end of this semester, God allowing"

?? The science of Intelligent Design ?
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I'm smarter than a rock
stgeorge (OP)
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Re: Visitors from Zeta Reticuli?
Nancy i think correctly classified the Visitors into two groups: Service to Self,and a higher motivated Service to Others.

The "Service to Self" category is what I was told I was visited by.They seemed to have fun tormenting this "star" human. They would scramble my brains and have me believing all kinds of wild made up stories.I went paranoid,until I learned to stop trusting the Visitors who seemed so advanced and knowledgeable.
Apparently they allow their people more freedoms than do ourselves.Some can just go off and play these pranks on humans.Convince them to wait on a hilltop and await a pickup by a Ufo for instance.
In severe cases,they do the demonic thing and haunt people.Putting on monstrous costumes that you have read about in "The Smurl Haunting" and "In a Dark Place". Not real but intended to terrify.
They did not go this level with me.Not allowed to terify.I am protected yet they are attracted to me.All quiet for now except for apparitions flying overhead.That was last year in full view of everybody.
"A demonstration that self is watched over by powerful and benevolent beings.." said the psychic. Those apparitions were not flying saucers,they were spirit orbs.





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