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Pre-Islamic Era in Mecca was there once a Church in Mecca?

 
Haile Menelik
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Pre-Islamic Era in Mecca was there once a Church in Mecca?
Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?

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The Year of the Elephant

The above-mentioned episode happened in his youth. Now we come to the most important event of his life which took place just eight years before his death. By then, he was the patriarch of the tribe.

The Ethiopian governor of Yemen, Abraha al-Ashram, envied the reverence in which the Ka'bah was held by the Arabs. Being a staunch Christian, he built a big cathedral in Sanaa (the capital of Yemen) and ordered the Arabs to go there for pilgrimage instead. The order was ignored. Not only that; someone entered the cathedral and made it unclean. The wrath of Abraha knew no bounds. In his fury, he decided to avenge it by demolishing and desecrating the Ka'bah itself. He advanced with a large army towards Mecca.

Conquerers from Ancient Ethiopia

Yule has analyzed the mysterious, robed figure in a report for the academic journal Antiquity. He is barefoot, which is typical of Coptic saints. He is holding a bundle of twigs, a symbol of peace, in his left hand. There is a crossbar on his staff, giving it the appearance of a cross. In addition, he is wearing a crown on his head like the ones worn by the Christian rulers of ancient Ethiopia.

All of this suggests that the man with a strange, round face is a descendant of the conquerors from Africa who succeeded in making one of the boldest landing operations in ancient times.

In 525 AD, the Negus, or king, of Aksum dispatched a fleet across the Red Sea. Soldiers and fighting elephants were ferried across the water to the East on un-tarred, raft-like ships to spread the gospel. In the ensuing decades, his army captured large parts of Arabia.

[link to www.al-islam.org]
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Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?

[link to www.spiegel.de]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 23645122


Mecca was originally a holy site for the Jews.

So yes, there were Jewish Temples, Christian Churches and around the time that Mohammad was born (just outside of Mecca), the area was also over-run with Pagans...
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Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?

[link to www.spiegel.de]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 23645122


Mecca was originally a holy site for the Jews.

So yes, there were Jewish Temples, Christian Churches and around the time that Mohammad was born (just outside of Mecca), the area was also over-run with Pagans...
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it was a house of worship for every God...
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Also, Mohammed PBUH had the bell, the "Glocke" made

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Also, Mohammed PBUH had the bell, the "Glocke" made

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Lol..
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Mohammedanen was a Christiaan
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The Koran(Qu'an) is a synthesis of Muhammad's words, and Hadith's (his saying), and a large measure of stuff added by the chief Islamic religious minds, many years later.

There is debate about whether Jews & Christians were present in Medina, when Muhammad began his "ministry". I tend to believe there were both.The Arabs in Mecca & other areas of what is now Saudi Arabia were idol worshippers; very fond of rocks; hence the Ka'aba in Mecca.

They tended to gather at sacred sites often around a "special" monolith or tree.
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Yemen is the key to new Era
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The Year of the Elephant

The above-mentioned episode happened in his youth. Now we come to the most important event of his life which took place just eight years before his death. By then, he was the patriarch of the tribe.

The Ethiopian governor of Yemen, Abraha al-Ashram, envied the reverence in which the Ka'bah was held by the Arabs. Being a staunch Christian, he built a big cathedral in Sanaa (the capital of Yemen) and ordered the Arabs to go there for pilgrimage instead. The order was ignored. Not only that; someone entered the cathedral and made it unclean. The wrath of Abraha knew no bounds. In his fury, he decided to avenge it by demolishing and desecrating the Ka'bah itself. He advanced with a large army towards Mecca.

Conquerers from Ancient Ethiopia

Yule has analyzed the mysterious, robed figure in a report for the academic journal Antiquity. He is barefoot, which is typical of Coptic saints. He is holding a bundle of twigs, a symbol of peace, in his left hand. There is a crossbar on his staff, giving it the appearance of a cross. In addition, he is wearing a crown on his head like the ones worn by the Christian rulers of ancient Ethiopia.

All of this suggests that the man with a strange, round face is a descendant of the conquerors from Africa who succeeded in making one of the boldest landing operations in ancient times.

In 525 AD, the Negus, or king, of Aksum dispatched a fleet across the Red Sea. Soldiers and fighting elephants were ferried across the water to the East on un-tarred, raft-like ships to spread the gospel. In the ensuing decades, his army captured large parts of Arabia.

[link to www.al-islam.org]
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Byzantine Christians controlled the Holy Land before the Muslim era.

Both the mosque and Dome of the Rock muslim shrine on the temple mount
were converted Byzantine churches.

St Mary church used to be where the mosque now stands.

The Dome of the Rock foundation is an octagon Byzantine Christian design.

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Byzantine Christians controlled the Holy Land before the Muslim era.

Both the mosque and Dome of the Rock muslim shrine on the temple mount
were converted Byzantine churches.

St Mary church used to be where the mosque now stands.

The Dome of the Rock foundation is an octagon Byzantine Christian design.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69976786


muslims stole a lot from the byzantines, the mosques have a byzantine eastern orthodox design, the headscarf was a byzantine thing, the chanting or singing prayers of muslims are ripped off from the eastern church.
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Allah is fabricated
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Listen pal, in "mecca" the black rock they walk counter-clockwise around, is a devil eating babies. 99 percent of witchcraft and religion states, to walk "counter-clockwise" brings despair and death... Meanwhile to walk "clockwise" brings peace and love. Simple math.
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Byzantine Christians controlled the Holy Land before the Muslim era.

Both the mosque and Dome of the Rock muslim shrine on the temple mount
were converted Byzantine churches.

St Mary church used to be where the mosque now stands.

The Dome of the Rock foundation is an octagon Byzantine Christian design.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69976786


None of which has anything to do with Mecca.

My impression is that Xtian missionaries probably made it to Mecca and other arabian towns, but didn't recruit many followers. Most of the infidels Mohammed killed were pagans of one sort or another.
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Allah is fabricated
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No Islam
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Re: Pre-Islamic Era in Mecca was there once a Church in Mecca?
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