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The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
With no evidence for an ancient Mecca, and the earliest mosques not pointing either to Mecca or to Jerusalem but in fact the ancient city of Petra, the question is: Did islam start in Petra in ancient Edom? Timeline documentary with 9 million views so far on what modern archeology now shows, presented by the one that discovered this, Dan Gibson:



We know from the bible the edomites intermarried with the ishmaelites (arabs). What do muslims believe, and what conclusion can non-muslims that read the bible draw from this?

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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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"We wuz kangz and shait"

No you werent. Youre no different than anyone else. Afrosupremacists are as redicilous as the nazis. Get off your high horse and bow to who you probably would consider a white man (you think that about mexicans etc too) before its too late: Middle eastern Jesus, so Jesus can forgive you for your racism.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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Nothing was stolen from Africa, the Blacks are all free to return there btw.
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Islam began with Adam and handed to Noah then to Abraham then to Moses then to Jesus and a the Prophets between each of them
Solomon
Jonah
Aaron
Lot
Sal
Jacob
Ismail
Isaac
Joseph
David
John the Baptist
And hundreds if not thousands more


It is the original creed

Pure monotheism.

Now, that's not to say that some aspects of the religion hasn't been corrupted

Like the deminsions of the kabaa, its cloth color and the vaginal shaped frame to the remnants of the black rock ...the contemporary adaption of the pagam crecent symbol ect.

But the pulp of the message is still there and it's still more monotheistic than any belief out there including the sun/son pagan worship you call christendom
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Islam began with Adam and handed to Noah then to Abraham then to Moses then to Jesus and a the Prophets between each of them
Solomon
Jonah
Aaron
Lot
Sal
Jacob
Ismail
Isaac
Joseph
David
John the Baptist
And hundreds if not thousands more


It is the original creed

Pure monotheism.

Now, that's not to say that some aspects of the religion hasn't been corrupted

Like the deminsions of the kabaa, its cloth color and the vaginal shaped frame to the remnants of the black rock ...the contemporary adaption of the pagam crecent symbol ect.

But the pulp of the message is still there and it's still more monotheistic than any belief out there including the sun/son pagan worship you call christendom
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Nonsense. Islam is a 7th century fake cult, and ishmael is not a prophetic line. It was Isaac Abraham almost sacrificed on the altar, not ishmael, ishmael was born in unbelief, but somehow this story got in the quran and they simply changed it and wrote in ishmael.

Christians worship the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Muslims dont.

Islam is nothing but reformed arabic paganism.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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"We wuz kangz and shait"

No you werent. Youre no different than anyone else. Afrosupremacists are as redicilous as the nazis. Get off your high horse and bow to who you probably would consider a white man (you think that about mexicans etc too) before its too late: Middle eastern Jesus, so Jesus can forgive you for your racism.
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Jesus was a brother, honk
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Islam began with Adam and handed to Noah then to Abraham then to Moses then to Jesus and a the Prophets between each of them
Solomon
Jonah
Aaron
Lot
Sal
Jacob
Ismail
Isaac
Joseph
David
John the Baptist
And hundreds if not thousands more


It is the original creed

Pure monotheism.

Now, that's not to say that some aspects of the religion hasn't been corrupted

Like the deminsions of the kabaa, its cloth color and the vaginal shaped frame to the remnants of the black rock ...the contemporary adaption of the pagam crecent symbol ect.

But the pulp of the message is still there and it's still more monotheistic than any belief out there including the sun/son pagan worship you call christendom
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Nonsense. Islam is a 7th century fake cult, and ishmael is not a prophetic line. It was Isaac Abraham almost sacrificed on the altar, not ishmael, ishmael was born in unbelief, but somehow this story got in the quran and they simply changed it and wrote in ishmael.

Christians worship the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Muslims dont.

Islam is nothing but reformed arabic paganism.
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And your christer shit is a hodge podge of pagan belief.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80940903


"We wuz kangz and shait"

No you werent. Youre no different than anyone else. Afrosupremacists are as redicilous as the nazis. Get off your high horse and bow to who you probably would consider a white man (you think that about mexicans etc too) before its too late: Middle eastern Jesus, so Jesus can forgive you for your racism.
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Jesus was a brother, honk
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Black Jesus is as fake as black vikings. Its fairy tales from racist afrosupremacist black racist israellites that support islam because you hope they will kill the white J that live in Israel.

Youre a sick, disgusting cult.
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And your christer shit is a hodge podge of pagan belief.
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Christianity is the continuation of ancient temple J.ism but with the Messiah. Its what the old testament point to, and what the new testament says is fullfilled. So youre spreading easily verifiable lies.

Repent or get lost.
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And your christer shit is a hodge podge of pagan belief.
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Christianity is the continuation of ancient temple J.ism but with the Messiah. Its what the old testament point to, and what the new testament says is fullfilled. So youre spreading easily verifiable lies.

Repent or get lost.
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You know what's worse than a Muz? A trin.
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Oh and have a 1 star, rabid pagan
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You know what's worse than a Muz? A trin.
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trin = trinity.

And thats because you hate God and the old testament.

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So why do you think we care about what you have to say?

Repent or get lost. Next.
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You know what's worse than a Muz? A trin.
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trin = trinity.

And thats because you hate God and the old testament.

[link to news.kehila.org (secure)]



So why do you think we care about what you have to say?

Repent or get lost. Next.

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Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.
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The quran CONFIRMS the old testament btw (for any muslims reading here):

Surah 3:3 says torah and gospel are allahs word, Surah 2:89 says the quran came to confirm the book J and christians already have (not some strange gospel that magically disappeared from history) and Surah 18:27 says no one can change the words of allah. <-- nothing in the quran says the bible has been "changed", but instead it BINDS YOU to what the bible says.

The bible holds authority over the quran.

Besides, in islam you have tawheed. Example: The quran is (supposedly) the eternal word of allah, the eternal word of allah coexist beside allah and will become a white man that argues with allah and sends black people to hell. Here i count atleast 2 eternal divine seperate beings, allah and his word, which acording to islams logic are 2 gods, and thereby making islam polytheistic. I dont see any ECHAD here, even though you use the word TAWHEED for this.

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You know what's worse than a Muz? A trin.
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trin = trinity.

And thats because you hate God and the old testament.

[link to news.kehila.org (secure)]



So why do you think we care about what you have to say?

Repent or get lost. Next.

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Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.
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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus, the old herecy called binatarianism for anyone that care about your irrelevant rants:

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Islam began with Adam and handed to Noah then to Abraham then to Moses then to Jesus and a the Prophets between each of them
Solomon
Jonah
Aaron
Lot
Sal
Jacob
Ismail
Isaac
Joseph
David
John the Baptist
And hundreds if not thousands more


It is the original creed

Pure monotheism.

Now, that's not to say that some aspects of the religion hasn't been corrupted

Like the deminsions of the kabaa, its cloth color and the vaginal shaped frame to the remnants of the black rock ...the contemporary adaption of the pagam crecent symbol ect.

But the pulp of the message is still there and it's still more monotheistic than any belief out there including the sun/son pagan worship you call christendom
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Delusional , mentally ill, demon possessed. Need not respond. Also please stop taking drugs
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You know what's worse than a Muz? A trin.
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trin = trinity.

And thats because you hate God and the old testament.

[link to news.kehila.org (secure)]



So why do you think we care about what you have to say?

Repent or get lost. Next.

 Quoting: Just†Me


Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44829755


Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
 Quoting: Just†Me


2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Paul wasn't a trinitarian.
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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
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Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

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With no evidence for an ancient Mecca, and the earliest mosques not pointing either to Mecca or to Jerusalem but in fact the ancient city of Petra, the question is: Did islam start in Petra in ancient Edom? Timeline documentary with 9 million views so far on what modern archeology now shows, presented by the one that discovered this, Dan Gibson:



We know from the bible the edomites intermarried with the ishmaelites (arabs). What do muslims believe, and what conclusion can non-muslims that read the bible draw from this?
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There are all those buildings carved in Petra even a Christain Church up in the mountains carved by the same people. I was still going on during the time of Muhammad, people had lived there for a long time. People of the Book.
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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
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Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

dark
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Ezekiel 37:14
I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’”

1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

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For a bunch of uncle fucking genital mutilators, you sure got me interested.... not.


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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
 Quoting: Just†Me


Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

dark
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Ezekiel 37:14
I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’”

1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

pope2
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John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am He, ye shall die in your sins.

Isaiah 51:12 I -- I am He -- your Comforter, Who art thou -- and thou art afraid of man? he dieth! And of the son of man -- grass he is made!

John 14:18
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

1 John 2:1
We have a Comforter with the Father, Jesus Christ.

1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and people; a person, Christ Jesus,

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With no evidence for an ancient Mecca, and the earliest mosques not pointing either to Mecca or to Jerusalem but in fact the ancient city of Petra, the question is: Did islam start in Petra in ancient Edom? Timeline documentary with 9 million views so far on what modern archeology now shows, presented by the one that discovered this, Dan Gibson:



We know from the bible the edomites intermarried with the ishmaelites (arabs). What do muslims believe, and what conclusion can non-muslims that read the bible draw from this?
 Quoting: Just†Me


There are all those buildings carved in Petra even a Christain Church up in the mountains carved by the same people. I was still going on during the time of Muhammad, people had lived there for a long time. People of the Book.
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There were obiously lots of christian arabs especially in the northern area, but thats not relevant regarding the topic here which are the beginnings of islam. Here we talk about where the story of muhammed started, and as you see in the documentary, it all points to Petra.
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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
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2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Paul wasn't a trinitarian.

He taught that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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Oh no

A whole bunch of ninnies bowing before a concrete box in the desert is so much funnier to watch

And what will the saud do for Income when the black veil is lifted and oil is the new coal


Say it ain’t so - these guys have castles in the sand to prop up !





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