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I've got a serious question about Heaven

 
SteveWutabi
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I've got a serious question about Heaven
... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
Do you seriously expect someone to answer?
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HERE YOU GO OP.

KNOCK YOURSELF OUT....

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What Does the Bible say Heaven is Like?


hat does the Bible say that heaven looks like? Are there sufficient scriptures to tell us? Are the images of the saints playing harps while lying on the clouds of heaven accurate? Can we know for sure what heaven will be like?

What Heaven Isn’t

The tiny chubby cherub angels playing their harps in heaven are not what heaven will be like or are like at this present time. Heaven exists today but humans who are living on earth cannot yet see it and the pictures that we have seen of it can not describe it accurately in all its splendor, glory, beauty, and majesty. Those who have died in the faith in Jesus Christ are said to be present with the Lord and since the Lord is seated at the right hand of the Father on His throne they are in heaven right now. What this means is that heaven is for real; it does exist, and there are Christians who have died and gone to heaven and are now with Jesus Christ.

The Three Heavens

There are actually three heavens described in the Bible. The first heaven is what is called the firmament or sky that covers the earth. This is the realm of birds and clouds that surrounds the entire earth.
The second heaven is where the stars, the sun, and the moon reside. This is the space beyond the earth and it covers the entire universe. It is as far as the human eye can see with the help Stairway to Heavenof gigantic telescopes such as the Hubble Space Telescope.

The third heaven is unseen and is the residence of God, including Jesus Christ. This is where the dead martyrs and saints are today. This is the location of the throne of God and where the holy angels surrounding His throne sing day and night, Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord our God.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
Ummmm... Yeah?

If Heaven is perfect, it seems odd that it would be described as having walls and gates...

Is it meant to keep someone out?
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Ummmm... Yeah?

If Heaven is perfect, it seems odd that it would be described as having walls and gates...

Is it meant to keep someone out?
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demons?
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
I've got 25+ years of Bible study. I'm asking a question of opinion.

This is a recent question I haven't found anyone who can answer.

Heaven does have the Pearly Gates right?

Therefor it has a wall.

Why do you build a wall if there is no sin, pain, badness, etc etc in Heaven?

**** I'm not Bible Basing, I'm trying to connect dots.
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There is much more going on up there than we realize or have been made aware of. As above, so below is what is written and down here there always seems to be a battle going.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
Ummmm... Yeah?

If Heaven is perfect, it seems odd that it would be described as having walls and gates...

Is it meant to keep someone out?
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


demons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668589


That was my first thought but are there even demons in Heaven? Like outside the gates/walls?
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... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


Because the symbol that was heaven was more like Guantanamo bay.
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There is much more going on up there than we realize or have been made aware of. As above, so below is what is written and down here there always seems to be a battle going.
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I think so too. I'm just super fascinated with it all. The Annunaki (epic of Gilgamesh, etc) really through a monkey wrench in things for me. I KNOW there is a God, but I've got a lot of questions about the Bible now.
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... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


Because the symbol that was heaven was more like Guantanamo bay.
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 Quoting: Ultraverse Maximus


Crikey I just realised that if sex bots were real.
Mine would be moulded on her...one of the 99 :P
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Gonna go to bed guys. Don't mean to post and run but I've really been wanting to ask my GLP family about this. I'll check in in the morning.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
I guess you could call it a "Gate"?

It's more of a dimensional Portal?
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
It's a formality. When you are welcomed into a gated community you feel 10000x more exclusive.
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... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


your reasoning is sooooo childish
“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future...”
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Last Edited by far&away on 02/27/2014 02:05 AM
“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future...”
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... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


It's to keep you in.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
A gate in heaven would be more like a very high arch way
not like the gate we would think of.Each of the four main
'gates' or archways are made of a single pearl, I would
have to say had to be 200 ft high.
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If you make something more exclusive...more people will want to get in. If it was open to everyone, it wouldn't be much of an incentive. Memento Mori.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
Ummmm... Yeah?

If Heaven is perfect, it seems odd that it would be described as having walls and gates...

Is it meant to keep someone out?
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


demons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668589


That was my first thought but are there even demons in Heaven? Like outside the gates/walls?
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


Well Satan is called the prince of the air.

Also, I assume the in the spiritual dimension, it doesn't follow the same law of physics as here. For example, the spirit beings probably aren't bound by gravity. If so, that means, they can probably traverse both land and air, just as easily. And if so, this could explain how they could be just outside of heaven.
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... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


To protect against illegal angel-iens. Hahahahahaha.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
Humans are spirits enclosed in flesh. It seems to me there is no spirit world and a distinct physical world. It is one world, the Greek word kosmos, being viewed by spirits that all occupy the same space but have different abilities to see. It's like five guys going out into the same woods at night. Each one brings his own flashlight but each illuminates differently based upon factors like battery power, lamp strength, etc. one guy might see a quarter mile in and another might only see ten feet ahead.
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Actually, Heaven is not said to have any walls or gates at all. However the item you speak of is called the city of New Jerusalem coming DOWN from Heaven to earth. This city has walls and gates. Read the verses below:

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

The rest of the verses describe the gates, walls, streets and rivers of this City that was sent down to earth. Please understand though that this the book of Revelation and much of this book is metaphoric as is true for most prophecy. The Pearly Gates represents the fact that those who enter into this city would have to be pure. The streets of gold represents the fact that those who will walk in this city will walk righteously; a walk as pure as gold! I am sure that you can now using these facts figure out the rest for yourself. John is having a vision (dream) about what the planet will be like after Jesus returns. It will be pure and Holy! It will be a heavenly place and God will have a throne there (a metaphor to explain that His presence will always be there). Be at peace my friend!
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Heaven was destroyed...

Earth is being Destroyed....

New Heaven and New Earth being prepared!!

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Revelations 12 KJV
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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Revelations 21 KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
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Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19204994


The Spirit in this verse sounds like a vehicle!

Performing a function of transportation.

Many times the spirit is referred to as something functioning, transporting or destroying...
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If you make something more exclusive...more people will want to get in. If it was open to everyone, it wouldn't be much of an incentive. Memento Mori.
 Quoting: InTune4529


It's is open for everyone according to the Bible... It's the person's choice. That being said, everything you said makes no sense. Not being a dick, but that can't possibly be the answer.

Right now the two I'm going to explore further are the "Portal" and the "keep you in". Opposite ends of the spectrum, but at least those two understood my question.

It's funny how it's always Christians that get defensive when you start talking about the Bible in a "want to know it better" type of way.
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
to keep you out
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
... Why Does Heaven have gates?

Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


To protect against illegal angel-iens. Hahahahahaha.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34865635


Now that is funny right there lololol

Oh that's rich. :)
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to keep you out
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Lol if it's full of people like you, I hope so!
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Nobody builds a wall, 'less they don't feel safe.
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


your reasoning is sooooo childish
 Quoting: far&away


Critical Thinking always is.

Didn't Christ say become as the babe to enter Heaven?
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Re: I've got a serious question about Heaven
A gate in heaven would be more like a very high arch way
not like the gate we would think of.Each of the four main
'gates' or archways are made of a single pearl, I would
have to say had to be 200 ft high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45805406


Youre a fucking lunatic!!!!!! Hahahahahahahah.....you just made up some stupid ass shit there...buddy!!!!!

measuring the gates and describing them and their height.....fucking insane lunatic...





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