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Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

 
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A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water


• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge


If there is 4000 - 5000ft of water between the ocean surface and where the black box lies.....they will never hear it.

....and no, they don't all float.

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My assumption is that the 4 guys with stolen passports were duped.
It is hard to think that all 4 of them agreed to die.
I think they were sold a bs story not realising their real fatd.
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aren't they already trying to link Iran to this
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My assumption is that the 4 guys with stolen passports were duped.
It is hard to think that all 4 of them agreed to die.
I think they were sold a bs story not realising their real fatd.
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aren't they already trying to link Iran to this
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Not that it means anything but isn't the pilot Iranian?
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where's that thread of earlier today with the weird radar stuff going on? Plane diverging right where it should have vanished, than back on course 'til after Vietnam where it's tailed and they both disappear short time later...topic gone?


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My assumption is that the 4 guys with stolen passports were duped.
It is hard to think that all 4 of them agreed to die.
I think they were sold a bs story not realising their real fatd.
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aren't they already trying to link Iran to this
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Flight 655 is why Iran would not nationally sponsor the downing of another country's passenger plane, and certainly not waste their victim status for a hypocritical tit for tat on a Malaysian one.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
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Fact 2 was on the news just now. So much for not being told. And what Natural News didn't say was that it can take a week or two to pick up the black box signal from the black box - in this case they are covering a lot of ocean.

Natural News should stick to peddling vitamins.
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CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Can the transponders even be turned off?
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Not that it means anything but isn't the pilot Iranian?
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If it doesn't mean anything why are you even bothering to bring it up?
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where's that thread of earlier today with the weird radar stuff going on? Plane diverging right where it should have vanished, than back on course 'til after Vietnam where it's tailed and they both disappear short time later...topic gone?


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This proves nothing except something may have happened to cause that hook / loop / altitude change.
They are clues....nothing more at this point.

This guy is always making a conspiracy out of everything.grnrolleyes
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
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Can the transponders even be turned off?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes.
...but if there is wreckage....they WILL find it.

Flight KAL700 took a while to find too and it went POOF off radar too......although everyone knew why at the time.
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CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Can the transponders even be turned off?
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my speculation is that if china and iran were able to fully sabotage the high tech stealth drone, then a 777 should be a walk in the park. especially when you can even get your engineers onto the actual aircraft, to help facilitate such a hijack.
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Just on the TV news - they are also including some land in the search. Imo that's the only hope for the passengers now - that the plane has been stolen and landed somewhere secret. If that's possible.
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They are now investigating more debris - results on Tuesday.
[link to www.cnbc.com]
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Not that it means anything but isn't the pilot Iranian?
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If it doesn't mean anything why are you even bothering to bring it up?
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Oh.... ya know, the question was posed and my fingers were bored.
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My assumption is that the 4 guys with stolen passports were duped.
It is hard to think that all 4 of them agreed to die.
I think they were sold a bs story not realising their real fatd.
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Or, perhaps they were in the middle of a secret mission and the "other side" found out about them and their being on that jet. Bring down the jet and the mission is cancelled.

Good guys? Bad guys? Who knows, it's becoming difficult to see a difference anymore.

And yes, all the others were just "collateral damage".

Would a drone be big enough to show up or leave a signature on a radar screen? Someone in the original thread mentioned that there were at least 3 or 4 other planes in the area. A drone could be remotely controlled and certainly would be small enough that most likely no one would see it.
 Quoting: Eggcellent


An armed drone, which also had a hacked transponder to spoof the flight data, is all that would be needed - the aircraft could be eliminated anywhere along it's flightpath without anyone outside of visual range being the wiser.

With an asset on board, the aircraft could be "hijacked" anywhere along it's flight path, with the same results. MA370 turns it transponders off, and the ones on the drone are activated...
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I have no knowledge of aviation, whereas you seem to be quite knowledgeable in those sorts of things.......so, are you actually validating my "what if" thought, at least somewhat? hf I mean, that's kind of exciting for ME, ya know! hf

Back in the original thread, someone noticed that the transponders shut off, and then when they reactivated a moment later there was a huge difference in altitude (like it had gone UP by several thousand feet). The general feeling seemed to be that a pilot would try to gain whatever altitude he could in the event of some sort of failure; at the same time, if this had been the case wouldn't SOMEONE have had enough time to shout out a Mayday or hit the panic button or something? But your thought of "switching" the transponders could explain an altitude difference if the drone were hovering over the jet at the moment of the switch.
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even if the transpoders are turned off the plane can still be tracked.

its just you might not have figures like speed/alitude
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CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Can the transponders even be turned off?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes.
...but if there is wreckage....they WILL find it.

Flight KAL700 took a while to find too and it went POOF off radar too......although everyone knew why at the time.
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Air France Flight 447 took exactly 5 days before they found a debris field...... So we are at 4 days right now (time in Malaysia is 2:20 AM) One note, of course, their was a Severe Thunderstorm that took place and the Air France flight went through it and the search area was much larger than the Gulf/Sea of Thailand, so still interesting...

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So they could hack into a system using reverse engineering of the captured drones and then later capture the drones in mid air. They then made the controllers of the drone believe their craft was on track and landed safely where they directed when in fact the perpetrators stole the drone. Maybe this is now an application that can be used on sophisticated large aircraft as the 777. They can also manipulate the entire GPS from beginning to end of the flight.


[link to www.uasvision.com]

Using knowledge gleaned from previous downed American drones and a technique proudly claimed by Iranian commanders in September, the Iranian specialists then reconfigured the drone’s GPS coordinates to make it land in Iran at what the drone thought was its actual home base in Afghanistan. - See more at: [link to www.uasvision.com]

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CNN are talking about THE DOWNIG of the plane.. when we know there was no evidence or witnesses showing it went down.


All evidence points towards the fact that all communication was lost with it, ie all its transponders could have been turned off.. It was OBVIOUSLY not being painted or tracked by radar at the time, or else they would know precisely where to search... CNN is also trying to say it vanished from radar, which is not true, because it was not on radar at that location.

IMO this plane was stolen and its transponders taken offline.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Can the transponders even be turned off?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes.
...but if there is wreckage....they WILL find it.

Flight KAL700 took a while to find too and it went POOF off radar too......although everyone knew why at the time.
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Air France Flight 447 took exactly 5 days before they found a debris field...... So we are at 4 days right now (time in Malaysia is 2:20 AM) One note, of course, their was a Severe Thunderstorm that took place and the Air France flight went through it and the search area was much larger than the Gulf/Sea of Thailand, so still interesting...

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Nah tool, they immediately found debris within a day. The major components, like engine, wings, fuselage, etc., took them 5 days to find underwater.

So far we found NOTHING with Malaysia.
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@L0gg0l: Two men travelling on false passports on flight #MH370 were Iranian, Al-Arabiya says (but without citing source) [link to t.co]
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My assumption is that the 4 guys with stolen passports were duped.
It is hard to think that all 4 of them agreed to die.
I think they were sold a bs story not realising their real fatd.
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aren't they already trying to link Iran to this
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THEY always use the same playbook. The numerous planted cover stories, coinciding with STOLEN PASSPORTS, and people who just WALTZ BY SECURITY, and onto a plane they are not authorized to be on. Plus, there is only one or two groups who perpetrate terrorism, then ARE TOO BIG OF A PUSSY TO TAKE CLAIM OF IT.

The more spin and bullshit, the more inclined I am to attribute it to the "by way of deception" crowd.

Prove me wrong.

Now.
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Missing flight MH370: Mystery passenger on Malaysian plane 'looked like Mario Balotelli'

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This may sound a bit out there but I got a little freaked when I read he looked a bit like Balotelli.

My fiance and I were travelling back from Faro Airport to Gatwick North on 28 September 2013 on the 22.05. There was this lone guy who was one of the last to get on the plane and sat in a seat that was not his, he got very agitated when he was asked to move. As we were taking off he was chanting something and when we were in the air he kept getting up out of his seat and walking up and down they isle looking in the overhead locker were he originally sat, but he did not get on with a bag. He also put a scarf around his face and walked to the cockpit, and then turned around to face the passengers. He also sat in the toilet at the front of the plane for about 15 minutes then went directly to the back of the plane toilet and was in there for some considerable time,we were all getting uncomfortable with his behavior, even the cabin staff were concerned. We experienced some turbulence and he was asked to come out of the toilet and take his seat, but he still kept trying to get up in the end they got him to speak via the phone to the pilot.

Towards the end of the flight he went up to a family with a young child which had been crying during the flight and was sat near us, I heard him say to the woman, don't worry everything is going to be ok now. When we landed and got of the flight he seemed to have disappeared.

It was a very strange and scary experience, he was not drunk and he did not look like he was using drugs, he had this sinister feel about him. The girls in front of me filmed him, I wished I had but could not stop shaking and did not want to draw attention to him. I used to love flying but after this flight I feel very nervous to travel again. My fiance who is not phased by much was also concerned and after said that it seemed that he was testing the water.

When I read the sky article that he looked like Balotelli,the guy on our flight was of the same appearance.

I will probably have the BS flag raised, but there was a plane full of people who also witnessed his bizarre behavior including the pilot who talked to him.
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[link to www.foxnews.com]



EXCLUSIVE: GPS flaw could let terrorists hijack ships, planes

“We injected our spoofing signals into its GPS antennas and we’re basically able to control its navigation system with our spoofing signals,” Humphreys told Fox News.

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@L0gg0l: TWO IRAN NATIONALS ON FLIGHT #MH370 WERE TRAVELLING WITH THE TWO STOLEN PASSPORTS, CLOSE FRIEND TELLS BBC (via @MehrzadBBC)
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@L0gg0l: TWO IRAN NATIONALS ON FLIGHT #MH370 WERE TRAVELLING WITH THE TWO STOLEN PASSPORTS, CLOSE FRIEND TELLS BBC (via @MehrzadBBC)
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Iran will tell the guys were from Syria
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A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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2 birds with one stone.

Israeli company wants to assassinate semi-conductor competition and blame Iran.

War and profit.
Old story
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Can the transponders even be turned off?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes.
...but if there is wreckage....they WILL find it.

Flight KAL700 took a while to find too and it went POOF off radar too......although everyone knew why at the time.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Air France Flight 447 took exactly 5 days before they found a debris field...... So we are at 4 days right now (time in Malaysia is 2:20 AM) One note, of course, their was a Severe Thunderstorm that took place and the Air France flight went through it and the search area was much larger than the Gulf/Sea of Thailand, so still interesting...

burnit
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Nah tool, they immediately found debris within a day. The major components, like engine, wings, fuselage, etc., took them 5 days to find underwater.

So far we found NOTHING with Malaysia.
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Sorry, you are correct, I should have read more, the Wiki article said 5 days in the first paragraph, but down further in the surface search, it was just 1 day found by Brazilian Air Force. I am in agreement, its weird, interesting or what ever.... that nothing has been found....and since the Air France crash area was in a much open and larger water than the Gulf of Thailand they found in 1 day, why nothing found yet...
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Finally, those authors & writers of the TV series show "LOST" were right after all, their show makes all sense now :P

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Hackers hijack a super yacht with simple GPS spoofing, and planes could be next

With just a laptop, a small antenna, and a GPS “spoofing” device, the team fed a stronger signal to the yacht’s steering system than the genuine one, incoming from actual GPS satellites. By doing this, they essentially tricked the ship’s computer into believing it was somewhere it was not, causing it to adjust its heading to stay on course. This is an insidious form of attack because the ship’s navigation technology will continue to report that the ship is both on course and precisely where it is supposed to be — even if neither of those things is true. By slowly “sliding” the ship into a parallel course, they ensure that even a conventional compass will show the correct direction. Course changes have to be gradual, so time-of-flight calculations remain close to correct and the ship never totally loses its signal lock. But that seems to be the only restriction.
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