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Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

 
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So what in hell happened to it then? I've asked all those same questions since this event was reported. Planes don't just disappear without a trace.
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Idk...but I'm sure it's nefarious :/

Sad...
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


Tampa, I believe that is the ONE THING everyone will agree on!
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"Interpol is now reaching out to the private sector. It's preparing an initiative called "I-Checkit" that will let businesspeople in the travel, banking, and hospitality industries screen documents against the lost-documents database when customers book a flight, check into a hotel room or open a financial account."
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Thread: Landed SAFELY?!

It landed safely in Nanming, and then some kind of "Operation Northwoods" took over.

It stinks!

This bit even says crew members managed to call family after landing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36951349


What's the real identity of the people with stolen passports? Ill bet the answer to this mystery lies there.
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...


After I posted that I thought twice, I guess I should never say never...

I guess it is possible to not find any debris....highly unlikely, but possible...
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


They will find the debris, Tampa. It's just going to take a while.
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


I like you, no name, you're respectful.

However, that being said, if *they* took me to the bottom of the ocean and showed me WITH MY OWN EYES the plane, I still wouldn't believe it...

I just have too my knowledge about these things...

I was in AF intel and my bf used to be one of the #1 guys at dod....

NOT BUYING IT!
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


Thanks Tampa, I try to be. So, in your opinion, what most likely happened?
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


Idk, and even if I did I probably wouldn't say...I have a 14 yo son to take care of...

I can only go on what I KNOW and what me and my bf talk about...he's not even sure but NOTHING is adding up...sometimes, unfortunately, it's just not good to talk about these types of things too much over the phone and he's not in Tampa so I will wait to talk to him in person....but this would all be speculating ofcourse, my bf works for a private entity now and not in the government.

I actually think I'm done giving my energy to this anyway...I've spent several hours the past 2 days by the pond sending positive vibes to the family & friends of the "missing" and the "missing" themselves.

The thing is when *something* of this magnitude happens it takes a somewhat coordinated effort and since we don't know who is involved, I think I'm done speculating...

Better to speculate on things I can change :)

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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Just you try finding metallic coloured components in a see of greyish blue ondulating waves from kilometers above ...

This ain't no scifi movie with Tom Cruise, it's bloody earth anno 2014 and shit takes time.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55375795


True AC. I've done this duty, and I can tell you trying to find anything on the ocean surface is VERY difficult. Heat waves, ocean waves, fata morgana, flotsam and jetsam, etc., all play tricks on the eyes. This is going to take some time.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
the common belief is that all flights are tracked by radar . not quite . secondary radar only shows a transponder return - not a non txpdr aircraft or a missile . primary radar will show any reflected info - txpdr or not . in the area where 370 went missing only secondary radar was operating .e
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Dude. . . OnStar live tracks the amout of fart your seat absorbed while you drive. . . And thats shit pile impala . .
How much is that plane costs?
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They will find the debris, Tampa. It's just going to take a while.
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


I like you, no name, you're respectful.

However, that being said, if *they* took me to the bottom of the ocean and showed me WITH MY OWN EYES the plane, I still wouldn't believe it...

I just have too my knowledge about these things...

I was in AF intel and my bf used to be one of the #1 guys at dod....

NOT BUYING IT!
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


Thanks Tampa, I try to be. So, in your opinion, what most likely happened?
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


Idk, and even if I did I probably wouldn't say...I have a 14 yo son to take care of...

I can only go on what I KNOW and what me and my bf talk about...he's not even sure but NOTHING is adding up...sometimes, unfortunately, it's just not good to talk about these types of things too much over the phone and he's not in Tampa so I will wait to talk to him in person....but this would all be speculating ofcourse, my bf works for a private entity now and not in the government.

I actually think I'm done giving my energy to this anyway...I've spent several hours the past 2 days by the pond sending positive vibes to the family & friends of the "missing" and the "missing" themselves.

The thing is when *something* of this magnitude happens it takes a somewhat coordinated effort and since we don't know who is involved, I think I'm done speculating...

Better to speculate on things I can change :)

Have a great day my friend!
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


10-4 Tampa, you too! All the best...
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge


Just broadcast a radar signal of same frequency in phase 180 degrees. It should cancel out the radar signal and prevent reflection. Thus preventing detection.

If it was hijacked in such a way it could be used for a startling terror attack. Like, putting a nuke on board and fly to the DC airport.

That was already theorized and feared. The airport is not far from the White House. All it takes is a last minute deviation from landing. No one will be able to hit the White House, as far as we know. But if they could it would be the most spectacular terror attack to date.

After all, the terrorists did target the White House and failed. Terrorists are known to come back to a failed target. Try and try again, that's what they do. Just look at how the twin towers were attacked several times before bringing them down.
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Yeah, the "terrorists" planned to hit the W house? Who are the terrorists you speak of? Sounds like a plot of some cheesy b movie. 9/11 2 unfinished business!! The terrorists (some of them) are in the white house, congress, supreme court etc. etc.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Fact number 7. Modern planes have all their systems constantly monitored and the information is continually sent back to the MANUFACTURERS by telemetry to allow the owners / lease holder / maintenance crews to know EXACTLY how the plane is performing giving details of the slightest deviation from optimum.

The huge cost of fuel means that aircraft is tuned to the highest efficiency. The on-board computer logs nearly every component, ground equipment can make calculations on every meteorological condition encountered. This information is invaluable for the MANUFACTURERS research and development.

These fuckers can see what's going on with the plane before the pilot. The technology in a plane, knocks into a cocked hat even the most sophisticated car management systems.

They know what was happening and where it happened. They just need time to agree on the story. Nothing is left to chance in this day and age.

Wait for the official story, and then listen to the old (retired) hands who know and probably designed / worked with the technology who have nothing to fear speaking out about inconsistencies.

The truth is ALWAYS out there wrapped up in all the FUD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55293009


Or they can just turn off the transponder and the telemetry as well.

The beacon from the blackboxes do work but their range is limited
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
I know the show Lost comes to mind...but wasn't there something about a plane missing (crashed?) in The Event?
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It may have started to turn because there was huge ufo in its path, then it abducted the whole plane.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
the common belief is that all flights are tracked by radar . not quite . secondary radar only shows a transponder return - not a non txpdr aircraft or a missile . primary radar will show any reflected info - txpdr or not . in the area where 370 went missing only secondary radar was operating .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55359837


That is what was said on the news. They can only surmise where the plane is...only the planes piolot knows where it is located...that far out to sea. The black box makes pings but they still need the area to find it. This craft is down at sea. They do believe it turned around for some unknown reason...no mayday..no distress calls ..could be that a terrorist blew it up...but no one has claimed that..to my knowledge
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I know the show Lost comes to mind...but wasn't there something about a plane missing (crashed?) in The Event?
 Quoting: No More Lies


Yea, the plane disappeared(into some portal) and some billionaire funded a cover up. They found "the plane," on the bottom of the ocean.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
I know the show Lost comes to mind...but wasn't there something about a plane missing (crashed?) in The Event?
 Quoting: No More Lies


Yea, the plane disappeared(into some portal) and some billionaire funded a cover up. They found "the plane," on the bottom of the ocean.
 Quoting: Norml85


ahhh...yea coming back to me now.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge


:glp111:
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Anyone find this odd?

The emergency landings last year of planes with "777" on them?

The odd fact that a planes black box just goes offline ala "Lost" ?

Predictive programming?
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
One of the best posts I have ever seen on this site.

As an aside, special thanks to the Aussie for the giddy aunt comment.

also would someone plaese decipher RR and FADEC?
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Rolls Royce

Full Authority Digital Engine Control (sometimes botched as Fully Automatic Digital Engine Control)
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Can't find the video but the CIA. Oops I mean CNN had a news clip this weekend showing that they had just recently did a piece with the pilot that is now missing.

I just shook my head when I heard it. Anyone else see it?
 Quoting: Rogue Lemming


Richard Quest, travel journalist did a piece for a travel show and was photographed in the cockpit with one or both of these pilots.

[link to edition.cnn.com]
interesting article with info that is not widely reported.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Military knows what happened, they have the tracking devices including high powered satellites etc. they do know its whereabouts. This is a cover up operation of sorts, maybe a false flag event. I hope for all families involved that the truth be made known soon.
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Just you try finding metallic coloured components in a see of greyish blue ondulating waves from kilometers above ...

This ain't no scifi movie with Tom Cruise, it's bloody earth anno 2014 and shit takes time.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55375795


True AC. I've done this duty, and I can tell you trying to find anything on the ocean surface is VERY difficult. Heat waves, ocean waves, fata morgana, flotsam and jetsam, etc., all play tricks on the eyes. This is going to take some time.
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


What part of the aircraft is the "jetsam"???
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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Found this,

Very interesting...

Mumbling ? Gagged ?

The Aviation Herald website reported that Subang Air Traffic Control lost radar and radio contact with the aircraft at 01:22 and officially advised Malaysia Airlines at 02:40 that the aircraft was missing.[4] However, a Malaysia Airlines spokesperson said that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 01:30, and stated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 02:40, which is long enough for the plane to have been flying across Vietnam.[20] ATC requested another Malaysia Airlines flight, this one en route to Japan and about half an hour ahead of MH370, to try to contact the unresponsive 777. The captain established contact with the crew of MH370 just after 01:30, but could only hear "mumbling".[21]
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The reps needed a snack?
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, said he established contact with MH370 minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control.

Read more: MISSING MH370: Pilot: I established contact with plane - General - New Straits Times [link to www.nst.com.my]
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge




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"Interpol is now reaching out to the private sector. It's preparing an initiative called "I-Checkit" that will let businesspeople in the travel, banking, and hospitality industries screen documents against the lost-documents database when customers book a flight, check into a hotel room or open a financial account."
Source:
[link to www.abc15.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


...and here it is.

Yet more private data collection of individual financial activity, as well as where we go and what we do. As if your debit-card records, "loyalty card" usage, and cellphone records aren't enough?

FASCISM, folks. This is what it looks like.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
the common belief is that all flights are tracked by radar . not quite . secondary radar only shows a transponder return - not a non txpdr aircraft or a missile . primary radar will show any reflected info - txpdr or not . in the area where 370 went missing only secondary radar was operating .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55359837


That is true but that plane and all aircraft are connected to the ps system via satalite and are traceable any place on earth , they know exactly with in a few feet when that plane stopped this signal .
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Take no thought.

In time, they'll find some of the debris wedged between two buildings in downtown manhattan.
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Take no thought.

In time, they'll find some of the debris wedged between two buildings in downtown manhattan.
 Quoting: BxMac


The 9/11 under Obama?
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Just a publicity stunt for the next episodes of Lost.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
I'ts a big ocean. It's going to take some time to find the wreckage. 370 was most likely blown up or shot down. But, like UAL 553, KAL 007, and TWA 800, we will never know the real story.
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


Ummm....no

Certain stuff is buoyant and would float...go check google for plane crashes over the water...

THERE WOULD BE A HEAT SIGNATURE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DETECTED IF IT WAS A MISSILE...

Anyone in the intel field of the AF will tell you that...it's not a secret...
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


I respectfully disagree. A 777 in a full stall vertical nosedive would hit the ocean with a VERY small footprint. Flotsam would take time to spread. They will find the aircraft eventually. The only mystery will be what the cause was.
 Quoting: No Name Today 53879055


how would it get into a full stall vertical nosedive?





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