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Sir Tim The-Not-Quite-So-Brave
(OP) User ID: 13009431 United Kingdom 05/10/2014 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an important side note, I do often wonder whether or not we are being observed already. Take UFO's for instance, covering all possibilities that they could logically be, they may be categorized as follows: 1. Hoax 2. Mistaken identification. 3. Some form of advanced human aircraft. 4. Extra terrestrial biological entities. 5. Time travellers. We're more concerned with 4. and 5. for the time being. "First Contact" is a real possibility for our discussion and also, if I wanted to visit the past by means of time travel and required a cover, being 'identified' as a UFO would be it. UFO is also a good cover for 3. as well coming to think of it. Anyway, whether or not "First Contact" exists as a possibility, we still do need to try our very best to advance and the opportunity is here whether or not we are alone in the universe. Scientific discoveries are breaking the boundaries at an exponential rate and we can make it. I, for one, would like to see us reach the stars before WWIII. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5778782 United States 05/10/2014 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to burst your bubble but Star Trek is fiction—fantasy, as is the idea/notion of ET’s, aliens, annunki, reptilians, greys, etc.... it is all made up for entertainment purposes. There won’t be “first contact” because there is nothing to contact. These things come from the imagination. Nothing based in reality. |
Spine monkey
User ID: 39475233 United States 05/10/2014 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guesses: 1. universal government and world peace 2. development of advanced power generation 3. ?? I can't see any advanced civilization wanting anything to do with us right now in our sorry state. We are a ghetto planet right now. Violent, fractious, unpredictable. I could see ETs looking at us and thinking, hooo boy, what a mess. What would/could ETs do for us at this point? With whom would they speak? Who speaks for the world? |
Nelu
User ID: 57878082 Romania 05/10/2014 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contacts occur(alien), i assume you speak of official contact. Not much, having it imminent scheduled not so far in our "future", regardless of egoic contradictions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1281571 United States 05/10/2014 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assuming we are living in a "Star Trek universe", what do we need to do to actually make this happen? Quoting: Sir Tim The-Not-Quite-So-Brave I am well aware that this is all hypothetical, but in light of recent global events - if there is even a small chance that we can make that leap forward with our civilization, then we need to do it sooner rather than later. I don't necessarily think that we would need to make a 'warp drive', for I am just taking the "First Contact" idea from Star Trek, not the specific details. It could be something 'relatively easier' than that like perhaps discovering what the Graviton is and that isn't too far away... Any thoughts? The matrix has to support it. it isn't just about first contactit is about remembering who we are. FOR WE ARE part of the cosmos. it is not separate from us. There is a reason we are quarantined from the cosmos. So the destruction that exists here is contained. The new matrix is only going to support peace. freedom. happiness. peace. grace. LOVE. honoring. valuing. ourselves. each other. life. NO DESTRUCTION. lol this is the universal code... the song that the cosmos's dances to. if we are not dancing to this beat we are quarantined in a way which is where we have been for far too long. this is about to be turned on. going to be a wild ride i imagine here (hopefully any not minute no but second now). this has been being worked on for a very long time by some of the most powerful and courageous and strongest (and don't forget NOBLE) mfers ;) you could know. |
*H.H* User ID: 53001434 United States 05/10/2014 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simplistic stuff really in theory, but hard to pull off and but sadly still far off: For one humanity would have to show that all of them could live with one another. When human beings cannot show that they can live with each other when they are of the same species, how would the whole of civilization react to those who are from another species. Any alien civilizations looking in on earth would refrain from open contact until that condition is met, as xenophobia is a real and very valid concern. Another thing is the different and opposing factions that are present here on earth and how they interact with each other. What is human culture? What are humans? Anyone looking inside from the outside would be thoroughly confused as there is no actual "human" way of acting and living, there are hundreds if not thousands of different ways of living and many of them contradict each other. I'd pity the ET diplomat having to sort all that out as to not offend the various groups and factions here. No clear representation makes up point number three. Who should be contacted and negotiated with? Scientists? Religious people? A certain government? Anyone who is contacted will not be accepted by others in human society; even if it's as clear cut as approaching SETI or NASA there are still valid concerns that those organizations do not represent the whole of Planet Earth. As can be seen, humanity is much further off from open first contact than just inventing a new gadget or two, some very important things have to happen first on a social and civilization wide basis. Oh yeah, there are of course also the matters of making sure a few billion people aren't starving, having renewable power sources, a better understanding into various sciences, understanding humanities' molecular structure, better ways of communication and fostering understanding, and a slew of other things that would also prove very helpful before first contact and any subsequent space exploration. Sadly the only thing humans got going for them so far is global communications, in the form of Internet, TV and smartphones. Being a science fiction writer gives me an interesting viewpoint into it all and I can actually examine the question from the alien perspective. Earth sadly is still a very messed up place, the list of things that are messed up here would fill a much longer response. But it is also one with great potential, but still far from reaching that same potential. *H.H* |
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Earth Daughter
User ID: 162820 United States 05/10/2014 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now, only individual first contact can be made. This is something that is possible with the right mind set. Collectively, there is too much fear surrounding the topic. If a big mothership suddenly appeared in the sky, too many people would freak out. If we had more open governments who would welcome first contact, then it would have happened by now. But the power elite do not want to give up that power. Hence the disinformation and the secrets. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/10/2014 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts are ; if a race of intelligent beings was smart enough to figure out how to travel here and communicate with us..... they would also figure out that this is a planet filled with vile evils ready to kill anything it finds and take its resources.... they would no doubt know to stay away ; if they knew what was good for them.... |
Earth Daughter
User ID: 162820 United States 05/10/2014 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts are ; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 if a race of intelligent beings was smart enough to figure out how to travel here and communicate with us..... they would also figure out that this is a planet filled with vile evils ready to kill anything it finds and take its resources.... they would no doubt know to stay away ; if they knew what was good for them.... They already know what's down here. And they know we are a young planet. We are like toddlers to them. We act without thinking. They understand we are mere babies with alot to learn, develop and mature. They do not judge us as vile, just as we wouldn't call a baby vile because they have not learned any differently yet. As smart as we think we are, we have ALOT more to learn. They know it. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19051875 United States 05/10/2014 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts are ; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 if a race of intelligent beings was smart enough to figure out how to travel here and communicate with us..... they would also figure out that this is a planet filled with vile evils ready to kill anything it finds and take its resources.... they would no doubt know to stay away ; if they knew what was good for them.... They already know what's down here. And they know we are a young planet. We are like toddlers to them. We act without thinking. They understand we are mere babies with alot to learn, develop and mature. They do not judge us as vile, just as we wouldn't call a baby vile because they have not learned any differently yet. As smart as we think we are, we have ALOT more to learn. They know it. How do you know all this? Yes, an advanced alien race would know humans are takers and would not stop at anything to get what we would want. Their technology would be very valuable to TPTB. They would stop at nothing to have it; I am sure of this. As far as looking at us a children ; babies.... hmmmmm I think they would look at us as violent, heathens just as they looked at the american indians You talk as if they would be more our '''protectors""" of some sort.... No, don't be naive. An alien race when confronted with what they would see as backwards, violent heathens would either 1. decide to leave us alone for many generations ; until we caught up with them and hoped we would advance mentally , spiritually and maybe come back to check every once in awhile.... 2. take us out and take our resources. An advanced race ;unless they had some higher spiritual ideals would treat us much the same way we treated the non technical indians.... I believe, it would be very doubtful there are many higher spiritual minded beings out there. If they do exist; they are very rare. I believe the majority of beings would only be out for their own race. I am one of those who looks at life NOT with rose colored glasses. I guess, this is my own survival instinct. If an alien presented itself to me ; I would approach with much caution and have my own survival plan. I am not naive. Living on this evil planet for several decades has taught me to look at things with a cautious eye and always have a way to protect oneself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57848513 United States 05/10/2014 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assuming we are living in a "Star Trek universe", what do we need to do to actually make this happen? Quoting: Sir Tim The-Not-Quite-So-Brave I am well aware that this is all hypothetical, but in light of recent global events - if there is even a small chance that we can make that leap forward with our civilization, then we need to do it sooner rather than later. I don't necessarily think that we would need to make a 'warp drive', for I am just taking the "First Contact" idea from Star Trek, not the specific details. It could be something 'relatively easier' than that like perhaps discovering what the Graviton is and that isn't too far away... Any thoughts? satan is listening to you at all times when you speak aloud simply inform him that you wish to serve him just that simple he will initiate "contact" in no uncertain terms be careful what you wish for in that regard however no stone unturned... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57848513 United States 05/10/2014 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to raise your vibration and survive the shift that the earth is going to make Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56237446 because most of them are higher dimensional beings hell you can do it on your own; you don't need to wait for others there will be no naturally occurring "shift" in either the earth herself nor the people hereupon that's all new age bullshit and rhetoric which has been, and continues to be disseminated by the galactic federation of posers, who have long since been working fervently to attain your servitude, and most of all your worship for that which they are not now, have never been, nor will ever in truth be, in fact a full resurrection is and will only be attained upon the merit of each and all, and for the majority it will require a thousand years of teaching during the upcoming Millennium Age to accomplish forgive me but it be so... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57848513 United States 05/10/2014 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can raise your vibration to the moon if you so desire, and it still won't change a thing in this particular regard for it is your choices and concurrent actions that will seal your fate in this regard, and in every regard in truth... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57848513 United States 05/10/2014 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hardly the case with reference to your souls which are every bit as old as are the souls of the incoming legions of so called "aliens" in fact and in truth who are merely those of you/us who took a far different route at the onset of this Age, setting their own fates in stone in order thereunto soon they will be returning to see just how many of you they can lead down that same garden path and from the looks of things that will pretty much be a clean sweep save for Gods Election again, pity... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56237446 United States 05/10/2014 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to raise your vibration and survive the shift that the earth is going to make Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56237446 because most of them are higher dimensional beings hell you can do it on your own; you don't need to wait for others there will be no naturally occurring "shift" in either the earth herself nor the people hereupon that's all new age bullshit and rhetoric which has been, and continues to be disseminated by the galactic federation of posers, who have long since been working fervently to attain your servitude, and most of all your worship for that which they are not now, have never been, nor will ever in truth be, in fact a full resurrection is and will only be attained upon the merit of each and all, and for the majority it will require a thousand years of teaching during the upcoming Millennium Age to accomplish forgive me but it be so... no it's not I'm not talking about any stupid new age movement. That's disinformation put out to confuse us. And it looks like it has worked on you, LOL. I'm talking about the real thing, son. Real spirituality. The earth is alive and she is ascending. Are you going up with her or not? That is the question. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56237446 United States 05/10/2014 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can raise your vibration to the moon if you so desire, and it still won't change a thing in this particular regard Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57848513 for it is your choices and concurrent actions that will seal your fate in this regard, and in every regard in truth... right which is why they are trying to keep our pineal glands calcified with fluoride and chemicals in our water and foods? I wonder why the pineal gland is so important? Cause it's the seat of the soul and the key to spirituality, fool. |
NewEarth 5D User ID: 57888353 Brazil 05/10/2014 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now, only individual first contact can be made. This is something that is possible with the right mind set. Quoting: Earth Daughter Collectively, there is too much fear surrounding the topic. If a big mothership suddenly appeared in the sky, too many people would freak out. If we had more open governments who would welcome first contact, then it would have happened by now. But the power elite do not want to give up that power. Hence the disinformation and the secrets. So what we have to do now is tell our families friends and co-wokers that aliens exist and they are loving and kind! I have met them twice. Second time I took pictures. It is in my website: www.the5draver.info What you should tell them is that they will never ever INVADE and that they need our prayers! So we start with praying for them to show up MORE and MORE upon the skies. And then we pray for them to land. These SATANIC governments will not welcome them. They work in complete contradiction to their tactics. They are LOVING and KIND. Contrary to the propaganda. OTHERWISE we would have been invaded already. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56237446 United States 05/10/2014 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now, only individual first contact can be made. This is something that is possible with the right mind set. Quoting: Earth Daughter Collectively, there is too much fear surrounding the topic. If a big mothership suddenly appeared in the sky, too many people would freak out. If we had more open governments who would welcome first contact, then it would have happened by now. But the power elite do not want to give up that power. Hence the disinformation and the secrets. So what we have to do now is tell our families friends and co-wokers that aliens exist and they are loving and kind! I have met them twice. Second time I took pictures. It is in my website: www.the5draver.info What you should tell them is that they will never ever INVADE and that they need our prayers! So we start with praying for them to show up MORE and MORE upon the skies. And then we pray for them to land. These SATANIC governments will not welcome them. They work in complete contradiction to their tactics. They are LOVING and KIND. Contrary to the propaganda. OTHERWISE we would have been invaded already. some of them are loving and kind not all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56237446 United States 05/10/2014 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why have we not been invaded in the last, say, 4000 years? Because they are loving and kind. The rest is PROPAGANDA of modern mind. do you know what the quarantine is? We've been under quarantine for a long time because this is an evolutionary planet where souls come to learn. So other aliens aren't allowed to interfere with that on a grand scale. Only recently has the quarantine been lifted. This planet is protected by other extraterrestrials to stop the malicious ones from coming here. In fact, there is a war that's been going on over earth. And disagreeable aliens have already been working with the government for a long time. |
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Earth Daughter
User ID: 162820 United States 05/10/2014 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts are ; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19051875 if a race of intelligent beings was smart enough to figure out how to travel here and communicate with us..... they would also figure out that this is a planet filled with vile evils ready to kill anything it finds and take its resources.... they would no doubt know to stay away ; if they knew what was good for them.... They already know what's down here. And they know we are a young planet. We are like toddlers to them. We act without thinking. They understand we are mere babies with alot to learn, develop and mature. They do not judge us as vile, just as we wouldn't call a baby vile because they have not learned any differently yet. As smart as we think we are, we have ALOT more to learn. They know it. How do you know all this? Yes, an advanced alien race would know humans are takers and would not stop at anything to get what we would want. Their technology would be very valuable to TPTB. They would stop at nothing to have it; I am sure of this. As far as looking at us a children ; babies.... hmmmmm I think they would look at us as violent, heathens just as they looked at the american indians You talk as if they would be more our '''protectors""" of some sort.... No, don't be naive. An alien race when confronted with what they would see as backwards, violent heathens would either 1. decide to leave us alone for many generations ; until we caught up with them and hoped we would advance mentally , spiritually and maybe come back to check every once in awhile.... 2. take us out and take our resources. An advanced race ;unless they had some higher spiritual ideals would treat us much the same way we treated the non technical indians.... I believe, it would be very doubtful there are many higher spiritual minded beings out there. If they do exist; they are very rare. I believe the majority of beings would only be out for their own race. I am one of those who looks at life NOT with rose colored glasses. I guess, this is my own survival instinct. If an alien presented itself to me ; I would approach with much caution and have my own survival plan. I am not naive. Living on this evil planet for several decades has taught me to look at things with a cautious eye and always have a way to protect oneself. I agree that not all ETs are beneovolent. But, the ones that are far out number the ones that aren't. And we are protected. And, yes, the benevolent ones are very highly spiritual. You cannot evolve beyond a certain frequency UNLESS your civilization takes the path of benevolence, love and service. We (collectively) have far to go before we learn that high technology is still child's play compareed to what those living in higher frenquencies/dimensions experience. These lessons are learned over millions, sometimes billions of years. That is why we are still infants making stupid selfish decisions. A billion years ago, some of those higher beings were living similar to us, making the same stupid decisions. They see themselves in us and have hope for us. The reason why you see us as wretched and undeserving is because you are looking and judging us through your own filter. That is how it looks to you. You cannot assume they would feel the same way as you. Their perspective of what they see in us is different. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |