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| ShowGirls
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1453912 United States10/17/2014 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you know you'll catch hell for your question but, some situations can be really hard to judge. If he was drunk also, does that make him a victim as well? I'm not familiar with the case and , no, I did not do the research, but I'm sure not every single allegation of rape is in fact rape. Without being there, some cases are impossible to to judge. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28899888 United States10/17/2014 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that some people have sex and regret it later, then to preserve their self image, cry rape. This could even happen without them knowing, wanting it when they were drunk, but not when they are sober. Then there is real rape, she could of gone to the hotel room to just hang out, didn't want to have sex, but was forced to. There is no real way to know. I think the people who say they were raped should have to take a lie detector test tho, before they plaster the accused all over the news and ruin their life. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63990530 United Kingdom10/17/2014 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She probably went with him hoping for something like that to happen. Then she could sue and walk away with a nice tidy sum. Even better is when they sleep with these thugs and get pregnant. Free monthly cash injection. Reminds me of a segment on Little Britain where Vicki Pollard 'slept' with the whole England team then 'felt really used because they all said they loved me'. |
| ShowGirls
(OP) User ID: 64050809 United Kingdom10/17/2014 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it wasn't rape she would have settled out of court.. But it could have been a conspiracy/setup to get him out of the game..who knows Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59982725 Yet, when Michael Jackson tried to settle things, outside of court.... He got penalised!!! When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future!! |
| ShowGirls
(OP) User ID: 64050809 United Kingdom10/17/2014 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that some people have sex and regret it later, then to preserve their self image, cry rape. This could even happen without them knowing, wanting it when they were drunk, but not when they are sober. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28899888 Then there is real rape, she could of gone to the hotel room to just hang out, didn't want to have sex, but was forced to. There is no real way to know. I think the people who say they were raped should have to take a lie detector test tho, before they plaster the accused all over the news and ruin their life.  When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64176516 United States10/17/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there anything you British people think about other than pedophiles and rapists? Is your life that fucking boring you have to fixate on that shit? BTW, unless you don't believe the courts, the case was settled. So my guess is you heard the entirety of the court case as well as the jury's deliberations, and have come to your own verdict. This must be the case, otherwise you are looking to stir shit up. |
| Stoned Goddess
User ID: 59320983  Canada10/17/2014 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you know you'll catch hell for your question but, some situations can be really hard to judge. If he was drunk also, does that make him a victim as well? I'm not familiar with the case and , no, I did not do the research, but I'm sure not every single allegation of rape is in fact rape. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453912 Without being there, some cases are impossible to to judge. The truth is that none of us are really "to judge". Sure it might seem obvious in some cases but you could also be completely wrong. Rapists, along with pedophiles, cover up their antics quite well. The only two people that will ever know what happened are the alleged victim and the accused. I think we all know what constitutes rape... but proving it is another story. That's why I personally don't believe in the justice system, especially when it comes to rapists. Nope. I will deal with them myself should I ever encounter one. :smokin1: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41101986  Philippines10/17/2014 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so I started this thread because.....I want to know.......When is rape, truly rape???? Quoting: ShowGirls Here in the UK, A well known footballer, got sent down a few years ago....If you do your research.....and I reply, if you do you research, you will find that the footballer, got accused, and got found guilty.....of rape, and had to serve 3 or 4 years.... But if you do your research, you will find that, the woman, even though there was CCTV footage of her going into his hotel room (as well as others)....looked somewhat........'sober'..... [link to www.chedevans.com] Yet she claimed rape...... Reasons? Money? Actual rape? Or genuine 'drunken sex?' The accused man should have claimed he was the one raped. |
| ShowGirls
(OP) User ID: 64050809 United Kingdom10/17/2014 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there anything you British people think about other than pedophiles and rapists? Is your life that fucking boring you have to fixate on that shit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64176516 BTW, unless you don't believe the courts, the case was settled. So my guess is you heard the entirety of the court case as well as the jury's deliberations, and have come to your own verdict. This must be the case, otherwise you are looking to stir shit up. Lol..... Not every case, is JUDGED rightly!!! Not every police officer is truthful, in fact, this day in age....Most are corrupt!!!! Should I just chill the fuck out, and lay back, hoping our coppers have it in hand? Lol!!!!!! When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future!! |
| ShowGirls
(OP) User ID: 64050809 United Kingdom10/17/2014 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you know you'll catch hell for your question but, some situations can be really hard to judge. If he was drunk also, does that make him a victim as well? I'm not familiar with the case and , no, I did not do the research, but I'm sure not every single allegation of rape is in fact rape. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453912 Without being there, some cases are impossible to to judge. The truth is that none of us are really "to judge". Sure it might seem obvious in some cases but you could also be completely wrong. Rapists, along with pedophiles, cover up their antics quite well. The only two people that will ever know what happened are the alleged victim and the accused. I think we all know what constitutes rape... but proving it is another story. That's why I personally don't believe in the justice system, especially when it comes to rapists. Nope. I will deal with them myself should I ever encounter one. Fuck me sideways!! you explained that perfectly.....I love you!!!  When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64176516 United States10/17/2014 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there anything you British people think about other than pedophiles and rapists? Is your life that fucking boring you have to fixate on that shit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64176516 BTW, unless you don't believe the courts, the case was settled. So my guess is you heard the entirety of the court case as well as the jury's deliberations, and have come to your own verdict. This must be the case, otherwise you are looking to stir shit up. Lol..... Not every case, is JUDGED rightly!!! Not every police officer is truthful, in fact, this day in age....Most are corrupt!!!! Should I just chill the fuck out, and lay back, hoping our coppers have it in hand? Lol!!!!!! Of course not. You should sow the seeds of revolution, indict the current system of justice, banish your fellow citizens on the jury to purgatory and demand you are crowned queen of the Commonwealth. Otherwise, there will be no justice, and no peace. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36651840 United States10/17/2014 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41101986 Philippines10/17/2014 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so I started this thread because.....I want to know.......When is rape, truly rape???? Quoting: ShowGirls Here in the UK, A well known footballer, got sent down a few years ago....If you do your research.....and I reply, if you do you research, you will find that the footballer, got accused, and got found guilty.....of rape, and had to serve 3 or 4 years.... But if you do your research, you will find that, the woman, even though there was CCTV footage of her going into his hotel room (as well as others)....looked somewhat........'sober'..... [link to www.chedevans.com] Yet she claimed rape...... Reasons? Money? Actual rape? Or genuine 'drunken sex?' The accused man should have claimed he was the one raped. Or that he was the one seduced. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64176516 United States10/17/2014 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you know you'll catch hell for your question but, some situations can be really hard to judge. If he was drunk also, does that make him a victim as well? I'm not familiar with the case and , no, I did not do the research, but I'm sure not every single allegation of rape is in fact rape. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453912 Without being there, some cases are impossible to to judge. The truth is that none of us are really "to judge". Sure it might seem obvious in some cases but you could also be completely wrong. Rapists, along with pedophiles, cover up their antics quite well. The only two people that will ever know what happened are the alleged victim and the accused. I think we all know what constitutes rape... but proving it is another story. That's why I personally don't believe in the justice system, especially when it comes to rapists. Nope. I will deal with them myself should I ever encounter one. You deal justice upon rapists who raped you, of course. Because otherwise you're taking one side, and your side may not be the right side. And it goes like this: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64176516 United States10/17/2014 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you use controlled drugs or knock somebody out to to have sex with them (after they already to you it ain't ever gonna happen.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36651840 Otherwise they are a lying ass dog. Dipshit. If someone, either person, says "no i don't want to get xxx now" and they mean it and the person isn't tied up and has a "safe word", then its a rape. Sexual, financial, emotional. People fixate on sexual. |
| CeeLite
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| Monger of Many Things
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| CeeLite
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| CeeLite
User ID: 64012487 United States10/17/2014 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP it is when a woman doesn't agree to sex. It's not confusing. A media case is just that, but here in USA a jury of peers, I'd sure HOPE someone knew the def of rape if someone hurt me and they were on the jury deciding if assailant was guilty. In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? |
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| ShowGirls
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| ShowGirls
(OP) User ID: 64050809 United Kingdom10/17/2014 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP it is when a woman doesn't agree to sex. It's not confusing. A media case is just that, but here in USA a jury of peers, I'd sure HOPE someone knew the def of rape if someone hurt me and they were on the jury deciding if assailant was guilty. In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? Yes society has truly lost it.... This young footballer, met a young girl.....CCTV footage proves they went in to the hotel room, together, drunk.... Later, she denied being drunk, and stated that he, forced her in his room  When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future!! |
| Stoned Goddess
User ID: 59320983 Canada10/17/2014 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you know you'll catch hell for your question but, some situations can be really hard to judge. If he was drunk also, does that make him a victim as well? I'm not familiar with the case and , no, I did not do the research, but I'm sure not every single allegation of rape is in fact rape. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453912 Without being there, some cases are impossible to to judge. The truth is that none of us are really "to judge". Sure it might seem obvious in some cases but you could also be completely wrong. Rapists, along with pedophiles, cover up their antics quite well. The only two people that will ever know what happened are the alleged victim and the accused. I think we all know what constitutes rape... but proving it is another story. That's why I personally don't believe in the justice system, especially when it comes to rapists. Nope. I will deal with them myself should I ever encounter one. Fuck me sideways!! you explained that perfectly.....I love you!!! thanks hun! :smokin1: |
| CeeLite
User ID: 64012487 United States10/17/2014 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP it is when a woman doesn't agree to sex. It's not confusing. A media case is just that, but here in USA a jury of peers, I'd sure HOPE someone knew the def of rape if someone hurt me and they were on the jury deciding if assailant was guilty. In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? Yes society has truly lost it.... This young footballer, met a young girl.....CCTV footage proves they went in to the hotel room, together, drunk.... Later, she denied being drunk, and stated that he, forced her in his room Yes but your post opens with the general question so is it about this situation or in general? Here if a woman is intoxicated a guy shoudn't have sex with her period. This is known. |
| G.O.B.
User ID: 35228997 United States10/17/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: No premarital sex. more realistic answer: film every encounter  Last Edited by G.O.B. on 10/17/2014 06:16 PM I've made a huge mistake |
| CeeLite
User ID: 64012487 United States10/17/2014 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CeeLite OP it is when a woman doesn't agree to sex. It's not confusing. A media case is just that, but here in USA a jury of peers, I'd sure HOPE someone knew the def of rape if someone hurt me and they were on the jury deciding if assailant was guilty. In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? Yes society has truly lost it.... This young footballer, met a young girl.....CCTV footage proves they went in to the hotel room, together, drunk.... Later, she denied being drunk, and stated that he, forced her in his room Yes but your post opens with the general question so is it about this situation or in general? Here if a woman is intoxicated a guy shoudn't have sex with her period. This is known. Pretty sure the rules/laws are the same in the UK too so it looks like that site is about some guy just making excuses who needs to be prosecuted. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64176516 United States10/17/2014 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP it is when a woman doesn't agree to sex. It's not confusing. A media case is just that, but here in USA a jury of peers, I'd sure HOPE someone knew the def of rape if someone hurt me and they were on the jury deciding if assailant was guilty. In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? Yes society has truly lost it.... This young footballer, met a young girl.....CCTV footage proves they went in to the hotel room, together, drunk.... Later, she denied being drunk, and stated that he, forced her in his room So a jury of his peers got it all wrong. There is precedent for this -- OJ got off after cutting Nicole's head off and her Jew boyfriends. Has anyone ELSE looked closely into this to see if there was a jury bias? If so, he or she has recourse. If not, someone ends up in jail because their argument doesn't hold water (usually). |
| CeeLite
User ID: 64012487 United States10/17/2014 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CeeLite In addition many and MOST rapes agree in a situation where the woman doesn't know the man and is attacked, not at parties. Has society really lost the definition of rape? REALLY? Yes society has truly lost it.... This young footballer, met a young girl.....CCTV footage proves they went in to the hotel room, together, drunk.... Later, she denied being drunk, and stated that he, forced her in his room Yes but your post opens with the general question so is it about this situation or in general? Here if a woman is intoxicated a guy shoudn't have sex with her period. This is known. Pretty sure the rules/laws are the same in the UK too so it looks like that site is about some guy just making excuses who needs to be prosecuted. AAAAAAAAND IT IS... if this is the right jurisdiction. The Sexual offences Act 1956 contains no statutory definition of 'consent'. Juries must be told that the word should be given its ordinary meaning, and that there is a difference between 'consent' and 'submission'. "Lack of consent may be demonstrated by: Evidence that by reason of drink, drugs, sleep, age or mental disability the complainant was unaware of what was occurring and/ or incapable of giving valid consent; ..." [link to www.cps.gov.uk] Last Edited by CeeLite on 10/17/2014 06:30 PM |
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