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Hellstorm: Exposing The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany

 
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Good documentary. It's hard to imagine the horrors of WWII and people tend to dehumanize Germans due to the ongoing propoganda campaigns but they were people too like anyone else.
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Hutler got sucked into imvading Polamd. Ptuin learned from tht and avoided teh sME FATE AS hITLER
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So if Putin decides to partrician off half of Ukrane and integrate it into his greater Russia he would be entirely justfified even if the majority of Ukranians living there didn't want to join Russia. Oh what am I kidding I'm sure in your mind every Ukranian would rather die than see their country not become integrated with Russia.
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What the Allies did to the German people after the war, was the greatest crime in modern human history.
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I hope you are talking about the Soviets, because the Americans and English were actually quite kind and merciful all things considered. They forgave all of Germany's debts gave massive loans without the usuary loans we are all used to today and brought a great deal of stablility to Europe and if they didn't do all these things for Germany it may still be a shithole today. So don't tell lies about what my grandfather's generation did for Germany. The only kinda shitting thing the "Allies" did to Germany was force it to enter the Euro even though it will most likely destroy its economy. Of course the UK, France and America were all vastly different countries by that point in time rather than after WWII.
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You are parroting tptb's narrative. You need to watch the documentary, with cited source documentation, to understand the other side of the story.

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Seems fixated on tourture rape details.

War IS tourture and contains the worst behavior imagionable.

Yes? Avoid Wars? Yes? Dont "support" warefare Yes?

Dont condone WAR anhywhere for any reason YES?

kinda simple right?


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The point made in this documentary is what happened to the German people; it is this version of WWII that has been suppressed from the entire world. I do agree that war is ugly and should be avoided at all cost.
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Is Germany better off now because of it? I say fuck yes it is. If you have multiple nations trying to kill you financially and kill your people, take it to the mother fuckers. Hitler was needed. Germans should all have respect for the things he did for them.
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Have you guys ever figured out that both sides were bad?

This "oh socialists were nice people" it's just not true. Socialists are wicked evil people, always been always will be.
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Have you guys ever figured out that both sides were bad?

This "oh socialists were nice people" it's just not true. Socialists are wicked evil people, always been always will be.
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Hitler had no choice but to involve Stalin. He tried to fix that and that was his downfall.
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More Germain soldiers killed after the Peace Agreement by Allied Powers ending the Second World War, then during the whole of WW2.
That is a very very Big takeaway from this film.
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good they fucking deserved it.
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Have you guys ever figured out that both sides were bad?

This "oh socialists were nice people" it's just not true. Socialists are wicked evil people, always been always will be.
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This documentary is presenting the suppressed history of what happened to the German people. If you want to be a pawn for the liars, then knock yourself out.
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More Germain soldiers killed after the Peace Agreement by Allied Powers ending the Second World War, then during the whole of WW2.
That is a very very Big takeaway from this film.
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good they fucking deserved it.
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You'll never be accused of being noble, that's for sure.
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More Germain soldiers killed after the Peace Agreement by Allied Powers ending the Second World War, then during the whole of WW2.
That is a very very Big takeaway from this film.
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good they fucking deserved it.
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You'll never be accused of being noble, that's for sure.
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Hell, I'd rather be right. Noble doesn't get your jobs back, your woman not raped, and your people killed. Hitler was the best thing that came out of German hands down. I bet they knew they fucked up when the bombs started dropping.
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More Germain soldiers killed after the Peace Agreement by Allied Powers ending the Second World War, then during the whole of WW2.
That is a very very Big takeaway from this film.
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good they fucking deserved it.
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You'll never be accused of being noble, that's for sure.
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Hell, I'd rather be right. Noble doesn't get your jobs back, your woman not raped, and your people killed. Hitler was the best thing that came out of German hands down. I bet they knew they fucked up when the bombs started dropping.
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I don't think anyone could have foreseen what had ended up happening to the German people. This is why their history has been suppressed, and remains hidden even today.
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Even what happened to the German citizens after WW2 will pale in comparison to what their dream scenerio is for the USA/Europe, and the jews are just drooling in anticipation. I've done extensive research into this post-WW2 topic OP, and you nailed the highlights very well with this thread, good job. People all over need to remember that history repeats itself, and the next chapter is getting started as we sit here, the participants are in the deserts and Russia now cutting off heads, getting their troops hardened with flowing blood.


If nothing else, watch/read this stuff and study not just the horror, study the mindset, the psychotic nature, the destruction of beauty and grace in people and property/items, study how mob mentallity forms so easily to accept/encourage even the most primative evil base nature, study how this enemy's nature can NOT be bargained with and it's thirst can only be quenched with astronomical levels of pain, humilation, degredation, debauchery, servitude and praise. It is wise to know your enemy, and it is also wise to study your surroundings and have an escape plan if this sort of thing is breaking out, I'm sure it's happening all over again right now in the areas, towns, cities, rural areas over in the Russian unrest right now.
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Even what happened to the German citizens after WW2 will pale in comparison to what their dream scenerio is for the USA/Europe, and the jews are just drooling in anticipation. I've done extensive research into this post-WW2 topic OP, and you nailed the highlights very well with this thread, good job. People all over need to remember that history repeats itself, and the next chapter is getting started as we sit here, the participants are in the deserts and Russia now cutting off heads, getting their troops hardened with flowing blood.


If nothing else, watch/read this stuff and study not just the horror, study the mindset, the psychotic nature, the destruction of beauty and grace in people and property/items, study how mob mentallity forms so easily to accept/encourage even the most primative evil base nature, study how this enemy's nature can NOT be bargained with and it's thirst can only be quenched with astronomical levels of pain, humilation, degredation, debauchery, servitude and praise. It is wise to know your enemy, and it is also wise to study your surroundings and have an escape plan if this sort of thing is breaking out, I'm sure it's happening all over again right now in the areas, towns, cities, rural areas over in the Russian unrest right now.
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I sadly have to agree with your assessment of this imminent danger that is rapidly approaching.

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Shikelgruber = controlled opposition
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I'm sorry but I couldn't rate your post and I just cant think this is all true. I am 41 and have read about this war not in school but books my mom bought me at a book store and ones I still buy today. I am an avid reader of WWII and just can't think this is true. I will how ever get the book Hellstorm by Tom Goodrich and read it. I will also say that isn't Goodrich and Hunt German names? I think they are and German propaganda is still out there. - I can say this and it may seem hateful. If this did happen.... Who is to day that these people that died didn't know about all the Jews dying in the camps? If they did know then they should have died this way and there is no way that they couldn't have known. My father was in the Army and we were stationed in Germany (I was two) - My father said that it was ordered that every person who was stationed in Germany that was in the Army had to go and view the camps. He didn't say any thing else about it other than that and I didn't ask. I didn't think I have to ask because I had read so many books on the subject. I wish I had asked him now. Any one can make a movie and add what ever they want to it. Any one can write a book and say what ever they want in it.
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I'm sorry but I couldn't rate your post and I just cant think this is all true. I am 41 and have read about this war not in school but books my mom bought me at a book store and ones I still buy today. I am an avid reader of WWII and just can't think this is true. I will how ever get the book Hellstorm by Tom Goodrich and read it. I will also say that isn't Goodrich and Hunt German names? I think they are and German propaganda is still out there. - I can say this and it may seem hateful. If this did happen.... Who is to day that these people that died didn't know about all the Jews dying in the camps? If they did know then they should have died this way and there is no way that they couldn't have known. My father was in the Army and we were stationed in Germany (I was two) - My father said that it was ordered that every person who was stationed in Germany that was in the Army had to go and view the camps. He didn't say any thing else about it other than that and I didn't ask. I didn't think I have to ask because I had read so many books on the subject. I wish I had asked him now. Any one can make a movie and add what ever they want to it. Any one can write a book and say what ever they want in it.
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Yea its pretty disappointing but its true, everything taught in our history is lies. We fought the wrong country in WW2. Another book worth reading is "Icebreaker", it is about who really started the war, by a guy who defected from Soviet Union, and was in there intelligence.
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I also have to say that my mothers father was German and was born in Germany. I have never met him and don't think I would have wanted to meet him. I have met three Germans that have lived there and come to America and I didn't like them either. The 1st was a girlfriends mother form when I was in high school and the girlfriend ended up leaving her mom when she was a freshman in high school to marry a man that was thirty years old. She married him to get away form her mom. After she left I never heard form her again. Her mom was old and kind of strange. She was born in Germany and you cold tell. The 2nd was a man in California that owned the apartment building I lived in and I asked him if he was alive when Hitler was. He told me yes that he was a young boy and he remembers standing in the street watching him go by him. This guy Josuph Shriber was not a nice man and I couldn't stand the guy. He acted like he was better than any one else. The 3nd was a woman and I can't remember her name. She rented out homes to military families and ripped them off. She was even more hateful and I never took the time to talk to her much. My husband and I were told by the military that we shouldn't rent form this woman because she ripps off the military families and we found that out the hard way. She lives near Fort Riley Kansas. I can say all the Germans I just told you about are all dead today because they were so old when I met them. What I wouldn't give to set down and talk to one of them today. - My mothers mom was German and born in Germany. She wasn't a very nice woman form what I was told. I don't remember her much because I was small when she was alive. I would have like to know why and how these Germans that I knew for a short time got to America. What they must have say in Germany....
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I can't speak of those people, assholes everywhere. Denying the holocaust in Germany and most of Europe is illegal and people are put in prison for that. That is a huge red flag to the myth. I have no idea if Hitler was good or bad. Everything today is he was the most evil person in history, or alternative history says he was the greatest man to ever live. Probably the truth is in between. Our history doesn't teach about the 150000 jews that fought in the German armies, or the SS being the most multicultural army in the world at the time. They forget to mention the Transfer Agreement, the Zionist had with the Nazis to allow Jews to emigrate to Palestine with their assets.
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Anyone with enough money and the know how can make a movie like this one. You just have to be very careful of what you think is real. There are people in the world today that are very good at making you think what they want you to think. Just because there is a book or movie doesn't make it true.

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Transfer Agreement book was written by a Jew. It is very anti Germany, but it tells what was happening, for instance Jewish declared war on Germany in 1933. These are things that are suppressed. The people making money are Steven Spielberg with his Hollywood movie, and history channel with constant Nazi shows. Its good to read many books, then maybe you can put what happened together a little better.
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Done some thinking on this and I still can't rate this. I will say that form the books I have read - Hitler's "doctors" did evil things to the Jews as in experiments on them. They liked to have twins because that would give them a "controlled" twin and the other he did "things" to him/her. They also like pregnant women and the baby's. Things like put motor oil in there bodies and other chemicals that should not have been put in them. Closed up a woman who was pregnant before they went into labor to see what would happen. And that is only a couple of things done to Jewish people in the camps. - In a book or movie there was a town near a camp and all the Germans in the town said they had no idea that the camp was there. So the American soldiers rounded up the towns people and marched them into the camp. They make the towns people bury the dead and carry them to the graves. -- I'm not saying this is O.K. but I will say war isn't a party or fun. I will say that war brings out the worst in people and if Hitler won the war who knows what the world would be like now. I don't think it would be good. I not so sure this movie is all true or false. It only takes one very very evil person.

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you forgot the lampshades made out of skin and the soap made from Jews. All WW1 propaganda too.
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Yes I saw a lampshade made out of skin at a Holocaust museum the same weekend a Holocaust movie came out on screen. I was living in L.A. at the time. From what I remember there were tons of things made out of human skin and if there was a tattoo on the skin they would use it in what ever they made. I don't think that our American Military would do the things that are said in this movie. I can see the bombings happening because they wanted to make sure that Hitler didn't have many people to make more armies. I'm not so sure I would say its an eye for an eye but there is no way of knowing if this is all true. How can anyone say what Hitler had done to our American military? Its not well known but there was a camp just for American military that were caught and I don't remember the name of that camp. But I do think evil is as evil does.
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Are you serious? All the stuff has been proven to be fake and lies.
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Yes I saw a lampshade made out of skin at a Holocaust museum the same weekend a Holocaust movie came out on screen. I was living in L.A. at the time. From what I remember there were tons of things made out of human skin and if there was a tattoo on the skin they would use it in what ever they made. I don't think that our American Military would do the things that are said in this movie. I can see the bombings happening because they wanted to make sure that Hitler didn't have many people to make more armies. I'm not so sure I would say its an eye for an eye but there is no way of knowing if this is all true. How can anyone say what Hitler had done to our American military? Its not well known but there was a camp just for American military that were caught and I don't remember the name of that camp. But I do think evil is as evil does.
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The whole lampshade and human skin products thingy has already been disproven. This thread is about what happened to the German people, not about rehashing the lies of the holocaust. Do me a favor, start your own thread on the already exhausted holocaust topic.

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Anyone with enough money and the know how can make a movie like this one. You just have to be very careful of what you think is real. There are people in the world today that are very good at making you think what they want you to think. Just because there is a book or movie doesn't make it true.
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Tell that to the Hollywood directors, lol.
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an analysis of the Morganthau Plan to turn Germany into a pastoral country after the war.

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Transfer Agreement book was written by a Jew. It is very anti Germany, but it tells what was happening, for instance Jewish declared war on Germany in 1933. These are things that are suppressed. The people making money are Steven Spielberg with his Hollywood movie, and history channel with constant Nazi shows. Its good to read many books, then maybe you can put what happened together a little better.
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But that isn't suppressed. It is easy to find out about the Jewish boycott of Nazi Germany in 1933 which the UK Daily Express described in a headline as "Judea Declares War on Germany". You won't find history books that talk about Jews declaring war on Germany in 1933 because that was only an attention grabbing headline. And the economic boycott wasn't very successful as seen by the German economy of the 1930s. The German economy recovered from the worldwide depression faster than anyone else and only started to suffer in the late 1930s with the massive military spending.

The biggest problem with the video Hellstorm is all the Nazi propaganda. The video tells you in the beginning that they were only showing things from the German perspective, however there were many things carried over from Goebells propaganda ministry.

There is no doubt Germany and Germans suffered after WWII. It was a long and bloody war. Germany had raped, robbed, looted and destroyed much of Europe. And the Nazi leadership refused surrender leading to even more death and destruction. Germany was especially brutal to those in the East and in the final days of the war many Germans fled West to find British or Americans to surrender to. And they weren't treated very nicely but far better than by the Soviets who wanted payback for the German brutality as the armies moved through Eastern Europe. Germany had treated civilians and POWs from the West much better than civilians and POWs from the East.
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Transfer Agreement book was written by a Jew. It is very anti Germany, but it tells what was happening, for instance Jewish declared war on Germany in 1933. These are things that are suppressed. The people making money are Steven Spielberg with his Hollywood movie, and history channel with constant Nazi shows. Its good to read many books, then maybe you can put what happened together a little better.
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But that isn't suppressed. It is easy to find out about the Jewish boycott of Nazi Germany in 1933 which the UK Daily Express described in a headline as "Judea Declares War on Germany". You won't find history books that talk about Jews declaring war on Germany in 1933 because that was only an attention grabbing headline. And the economic boycott wasn't very successful as seen by the German economy of the 1930s. The German economy recovered from the worldwide depression faster than anyone else and only started to suffer in the late 1930s with the massive military spending.

The biggest problem with the video Hellstorm is all the Nazi propaganda. The video tells you in the beginning that they were only showing things from the German perspective, however there were many things carried over from Goebells propaganda ministry.

There is no doubt Germany and Germans suffered after WWII. It was a long and bloody war. Germany had raped, robbed, looted and destroyed much of Europe. And the Nazi leadership refused surrender leading to even more death and destruction. Germany was especially brutal to those in the East and in the final days of the war many Germans fled West to find British or Americans to surrender to. And they weren't treated very nicely but far better than by the Soviets who wanted payback for the German brutality as the armies moved through Eastern Europe. Germany had treated civilians and POWs from the West much better than civilians and POWs from the East.
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Maybe it is possible Germany fought to the very end because their option was unconditional surrender. The German people were loyal to the end also. They were fighting for an idea. We have no balance in our history that is taught, and the aftermath of WW2 is still being felt.
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Maybe it is possible Germany fought to the very end because their option was unconditional surrender.
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Well sure, unconditional surrender was their only option. And it was the best option for the people as much of Germany was destroyed and military and many civilians were killed as the Allies invaded from both West and East. But for the Nazi leadership unconditional surrender meant losing power and facing war crimes tribunals... and they weren't going to do that. Look at Japan and how their leadership cared about the people enough that they were willing to surrender unconditionally when it was clear they had lost the war.

Most in the German high command knew the war was not winnable by the end of 1942. There were plots to overthrow or kill Hitler as it was clear the war would be lost with great suffering to the German people. Hell, Hitler wouldn't even let armies strategically retreat to regroup or surrender when all hope was lost.

The German people were loyal to the end also.
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They were and nearly fought to the last man. Hitler inspired that kind of loyalty... but obviously didn't feel the same way himself and took the cowards way out. Men like Hermann Göring saw it to the end, committing suicide just ahead of the hangman's noose.

They were fighting for an idea. We have no balance in our history that is taught, and the aftermath of WW2 is still being felt.
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This should be a lesson to people not to blindly follow an inspirational leader down a path to destruction. Hitler had the power to captivate an audience like a modern day evangelist. The Germans weren't fighting for an idea but a combination of motivation by an inspirational leader and the knowledge that anything but compliance meant imprisonment and/or death. It was the ultimate carrot and stick approach.
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Its impossible to reply to you other than maybe turn history channel off, and read some books.





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