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It’s a chain reaction and temperature flux is radiation flux emanation
Why frequency is so important.
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I was thinking on how much the nonmaterial influences the material to the point of override being non psychic or as non as can get

Lumen is cave based which the body is similarly based. Ayurveda is very temperature oriented in its application. Just thinking
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So in the times of the mingle
Cayce says the mixture of people in countries were at varying stages
Mentally, physically, and spiritually inferior peoples compared to others which complicated social structures. I’m thinking this is mixture of the differing skulls showing differing people
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Internet and I-Ching is closest thing to no time yet it’s not no time. It is twilight. The frequency structures in place were based off something forgotten and replaced with spirits and the like as seen in old codex’s, hymns, and formulas.



Thoughtful lol
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Same story different view
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All built within the structure of star knowledge
The mandala of earth and sky
Keeping time through 24 hours and 24 frames



the Caspian depression is lower than the depression that the dead sea is in
when I stayed at the dead sea I was told by the locals that I could stay out in the sun for as long as I liked without sun protection because the depth of the depression I was in altered the effect of the suns rays upon our body and made the suns rays unable to burn our skin (sun burn)

I stayed out in the desert sun at the dead sea for many days and what the locals told me is true

I experienced no sun burn

Brien tells us the cone heads are sun sensitive and they lived in the Caspian depression and I can understand why they did
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Makes sense. I’ve noticed many ancient places that are cities now are built in basins, bowl shape. Funny because the Solomon bowl with the oxen under it came up yesterday in old post about Mormons baptisms in their temples with similar construct for the dead not living.
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A dragon is a serpent just like all bulls are oxen. But a serpent is not always a dragon just like an ox is not always a bull.
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Rofl
The baptism font bowl with the oxen of 12 is a water clock
The sun(bird) tells the time with shadows in daylight
The water(serpent) tells time with ‘gravity’ in night
The passage of time was highly important with both day and night
So they used the clepsydra. It’s a duat. Lol
Water dribbled out the hole twelve columns of circles inside correspond to the water levels

Lol oxtail is informative with font experience
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Surface life has for every day creature a night creature equivalent.
Two raptor equivalent was
Red tail hawk day sight and speed color vision
Great horned owl sound and silence lack of color vision

Key notes face shapes. Day face eyes are on sides perfect for sight and night shape is flat face perfect for sound
Fitting that into time and light.
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Fish recorded singing dawn chorus on reefs just like birds

Sound plays an important role in various fish behaviours such as reproduction, feeding and territorial disputes. Nocturnal predatory fish use calls to stay together to hunt, while fish that are active during the day use sound to defend their territory. “You get the dusk and dawn choruses like you would with the birds in the forest,” says Steve Simpson, a marine biologist at the University of Exeter, UK.




Time dictation topic
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Going through huge mound builder territory this past week has brought up the legends of the entities within the structures.

I wrote a little about it last year around this time when I went to the reservation.

Funny enough, their dress and language was what distinguished them apart from the tribes that lived around the mounds. One appeared out of no where to drive back the enemy and the rest appeared pouring out of the mounds. The were called the Immortals. Nunehi by tribes. They could become invisible. When finished with their task they go back into the side of the mounds.


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Saw an electromagnetic meme pic of the sun with a plant saying

“ Is gravity pulling down on the leaves or is the sun exiting and darkness now falling?”

My thinking is like how running takes out the trash in ones head/mind lol
Lumen topic cool2
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Lol came on radio

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Golden sun worshipers are always scheming lol
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It’s a chain reaction and temperature flux is radiation flux emanation
Why frequency is so important.
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I was thinking on how much the nonmaterial influences the material to the point of override being non psychic or as non as can get

Lumen is cave based which the body is similarly based. Ayurveda is very temperature oriented in its application. Just thinking
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It is right!? Such good points - and the fireplaces in those mansions, so shallow and the backs being ornately engraved metal...wth. Makes sense of the rash of fires(once the "antiqui-tech" was converted).

Oh yeaah, I forgot about those hats! The stovepipes(not stove-top lolol) and Kentucky came up in the post about giants:

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"Throughout the 19th century, Mose assumed legendary status for fighting New York’s fires and breaking up vicious brawls. Tall tales told how he could swim across the Hudson in two strokes, how he pulled up pavement slabs to hurl between warring gangs and how he saved the babies from a burning orphanage by scooping them up in his stovepipe hat."

"The gentleman in the above photo is Martin van Buren Bates, the “Kentucky River Giant,” born in 1837, measuring 7 feet 11 and a 1/2 inches tall and weighing 478 pounds. He served in the Civil War as Captain of the 4th Kentucky Infantry and later toured the US and Canada"


Blood sacrifice and Cortes reminds me of a post from the Solstice thread:

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True about diet hmm. I've observed something similar here with mosquitoes. I've been in groups and some will get swarmed while a couple of us would maybe get 1 or 2 bites and no swarming. That's reminding me of being in NW and getting swarmed though but I don't think I actually did get bit, iir, just that we disturbed a huge family of them and then we ran lol. Hmm, anyway, I assumed the mosquito thing must be genetics but it could actually be both too - the way that genetics digest?
 Quoting: Begin Again.


I’m getting tons of info on this link with atmospheric structures. Years ago, the thought of the Egyptian instruments held in the deities hands correlated to the still hidden music under the Sphinx. Supposedly highly advanced on a scale unfathomed by people today that it would look like magic in what it could do. And the head dresses miniscale structures when music was played moved through the designs to do what it was structured to do. Was thinking hymns spawned from this. More advanced type of altered states effecting the focal points. Because in ancient healing there was 3 things to a healing; medicine, words or a song, and the shaman/instrument.

Excuse the rantings lol

Yeah, Kentucky seemed a hotspot of giants
The mayans have the four days as well. Probably for the four gods in popol vuh similar to Egyptians.

Yes. It’s both contributions. Diet and genetics.
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Awesome! Nah, not ranting, mini-epiphanies. Super interesting and I never heard about the hidden music under the Sphinx. Or any of that lol.

Right the organs in those grand structures. Music tied into the history hoax 1800's topic too,

"The great 440 Hz conspiracy, and why all of our music is wrong: Alan Cross"
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As early as 1885, the Music Commission of the Italian Government declared that all instruments and orchestras should use a tuning fork that vibrated at 440 Hz, which was different from the original standard of 435 Hz and the competing 432 Hz used in France.

In 1917, the American Federation of Musicians endorsed the Italians, followed by a further push for 440 Hz in the 1940s.

In 1953, a worldwide agreement was signed. Signatories declared that middle “A” on the piano be forevermore tuned to exactly 440 Hz.

Weirdly, no one can say for sure why this frequency was chosen in the first place. In fact, there those among us who vehemently disagree with this standard.

Others believe that the correct middle “A” is 432 Hz (also known as Verdi’s A) because it has “a pure tone of math fundamental to nature” and is “mathematically consistent with the patterns of the universe, vibrating with Phi, the Golden Ratio. They point to how this pitch can be connected to everything from nautilus shells to the works of the ancients, including the construction of the Great Pyramid.

Furthermore, 432 Hz resonates with 8 Hz (the Schumann Resonance), the documented fundamental electromagnetic “beat” of Earth. It just feels better.

Here’s where the conspiracy comes in. There is allegedly something sinister and evil about 440 Hz. It is said that the Rockefeller Foundation had an interest in making sure the United States adopted the 440 Hz standard in 1935 as part of a “war on consciousness” leading to “musical cult control.

Going a little deeper, we end up at the doorstep of the Nazis. It is said that propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels insisted that on 440 Hz tuning in Germany because he believed it made people think and feel in specific ways, making them “a prisoner of a certain consciousness.”

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Now we are diving into the obsidian brick lol
What is good frequency for some is not good frequency for others.
It is all about radiation and bloodlines and habitats aka Noah’s ark
Why some went underground, some on surface, and some in space. Ability of filtering radiation through blood/matter and the capacity to thrive.
Imagine the tool being utilized for creative purposes.
Cayce would talk about the sons of belial utilizing for personal gain at the detriment of whole societies. Bel being Neanderthal god recalling.
See where this went-
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Oh good info, makes sense. Ty. So if that was done so recently hmm.
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More giants huh!:) "Squawkzilla" lolol. Squaw came up on 1833 thread, in the bickerings lol

“One of the nice aspects of paleontology is how much of what happens depends on serendipity,” Archer said."

That isn't the only ology that relies on serendipity
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It did in a post from Cremony too. Lol
Military relies on it too hahahahaha
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Ohhh yeahhh on serendipity and card dealing duat post. lol
It's difficult to censor certain curiosities. I never used to be such a rubbernecker lol.

Cremony?
"Major John C. Cremony (1815 – August 24, 1879[2]) was an American soldier who wrote the first dictionary of the Apache language and later became a newspaperman in San Francisco."

First read that as ceremony lol
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Yes that is him. I came upon his old book Life Among the Apaches. Very interesting read. Looked to find he is one of the founders of bohemian grove. He gives off very mixed impression but always a strong determined knowing in his choices.
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One of the founders of Bohemian Grove, WOW. I can't get over that for some reason lol.

I never read about the origins of the club and it seems it wasn't nearly as creepy as what it evolved into lol. It was established in 1872 for journalists, musicians, actors and artists but was "commandeered".

"Not long after the Club's establishment by newspaper journalists, it was commandeered by prominent San Francisco-based businessmen, who provided the financial resources necessary to acquire further land and facilities at the Grove. However, they still retained the "bohemians"—the artists and musicians—who continued to entertain international members and guests."
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The tradition of a summer encampment was established six years after the Bohemian Club was formed in 1872. Henry "Harry" Edwards, a stage actor and founding member, announced that he was relocating to New York City to further his career. On June 29, 1878, somewhat fewer than 100 Bohemians gathered in the Redwoods in Marin County near Taylorville (present-day Samuel P. Taylor State Park) for an evening sendoff party in Edwards' honor.[16] Freely flowing liquor and some Japanese lanterns put a glow on the festivities, and club members retired at a late hour to the modest comfort of blankets laid on the dense mat of Redwood needles. This festive gathering was repeated the next year without Edwards, and became the club's yearly encampment.


and Cremony died the following summer after one of the other founders left..I can't find how many founders there were, would probably be interesting to know who were the ones that stayed in the club. I wonder how long is "Not long after the Club's establishment by newspaper journalists, it was commandeered". 6-7 years maybe lol.

So the club motto, "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here", supposedly "implies that outside concerns and business deals (networking) are to be left outside."

But thinking about Cremony being influenced by Apaches, reminded me of a blip I read about spiders from the mound builders sacred text site and funny it's more four forces,


'SPIDERS.--While the great Serpent Mounds have captured the most public interest among the Mound Builders' relics, the Spiders have the greatest fascination for me, personally. While exploring among the South Sea Islands some fifty years ago I constantly came across legends about the Grey and Black Pointed Spider. These legends showed that the Spider was symbolic of something, and that it was a sacred symbol,but of what I could not determine. The legends were all too obtuse. As examples:

"There the Grey and Black Pointed Spider would have mounted to Heaven, but he was held back by the bitterness of the cold."

"The roads were cunningly constructed to represent the web of the Grey and Black Pointed Spider, and no man could discover the beginning or the end thereof."

Now after waiting fifty years and having given up all hope of ever solving the riddle of the Grey and Black Pointed Spider I find the answer given at our very doorstep. Truly, here in America lies the key to unlock the great past history of man.

These Spiders were brought to my notice by my friend, Dr. Thomas M. Stewart, of Cincinnati, Ohio. They are engraved on circular pieces of shell, and on each of their backs is a symbol showing what they represented. These peculiar relics have been found in the burial vaults of the Mound Builders of Missouri, Arkansas and Tennessee. Because of the location of the places where they have been found Dr. Stewart suggested that they might have been used in the same manner as the Scarab in the Egyptian burial chambers.

The symbols on the backs of these Spiders are duplications of the symbols found as ornaments on the Water Bottle shown on page 241. No. 1 is the original symbol for the Four Great Forces shown in No. 2 on page 241. No. 2 shows the Forces working from west p. 237 to east as in No. 3 on page 241. No. 3 is the same compound symbol as shown in No. 2, page 241.


:4forcespiders:

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and then another interesting 4 from the history of the club,

"Although no woman has ever been given full membership in the Bohemian Club, the four female honorary members were hostess Margaret Bowman, poet Ina Coolbrith (who served as librarian for the Club), actress Elizabeth Crocker Bowers, and writer Sara Jane Lippincott. Since Coolbrith's death in 1928, no other woman has been made a member."
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Going through huge mound builder territory this past week has brought up the legends of the entities within the structures.

I wrote a little about it last year around this time when I went to the reservation.

Funny enough, their dress and language was what distinguished them apart from the tribes that lived around the mounds. One appeared out of no where to drive back the enemy and the rest appeared pouring out of the mounds. The were called the Immortals. Nunehi by tribes. They could become invisible. When finished with their task they go back into the side of the mounds.


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There's legends of them, cool! Ty. Did you write about them in this thread?

"A well-known story tells about a man named Yahula, who had become separated from a hunting party. His friends searched for him for a long time but eventually gave up and returned to their village, grieving for Yahula, whom they believed was dead. The Nunnehi found Yahula and brought him back to their townhouse to live with them. Yahula became immortal and lived with the Nunnehi for a long time until he began to miss his friends and family. One night Yahula went back to his village to see his friends and family, and he told them what had happened. When they asked Yahula to eat dinner with them, he said he could not, for he had eaten the food of the Nunnehi and could never again eat human food. He told them he had only come back to visit and that he would soon be returning to the Nunnehi. His friends and family begged him to stay, but he refused, telling them he could not choose death with his own people over immortality with the Nunnehi. Yahula then returned to the Nunnehi, but he continued to visit the Cherokee often."

This really stood out for me cause a giant denier, lol, on the 1833 thread is going on and on arguing against giants but it seems that poster's only point is that no giant fossilized feces have been found. I've been thinking 'so what, maybe they didn't 'eat' and/or digest food like we do?'.
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Nakshatra lol
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It did in a post from Cremony too. Lol
Military relies on it too hahahahaha
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Ohhh yeahhh on serendipity and card dealing duat post. lol
It's difficult to censor certain curiosities. I never used to be such a rubbernecker lol.

Cremony?
"Major John C. Cremony (1815 – August 24, 1879[2]) was an American soldier who wrote the first dictionary of the Apache language and later became a newspaperman in San Francisco."

First read that as ceremony lol
 Quoting: Begin Again.


Yes that is him. I came upon his old book Life Among the Apaches. Very interesting read. Looked to find he is one of the founders of bohemian grove. He gives off very mixed impression but always a strong determined knowing in his choices.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


One of the founders of Bohemian Grove, WOW. I can't get over that for some reason lol.

I never read about the origins of the club and it seems it wasn't nearly as creepy as what it evolved into lol. It was established in 1872 for journalists, musicians, actors and artists but was "commandeered".

"Not long after the Club's establishment by newspaper journalists, it was commandeered by prominent San Francisco-based businessmen, who provided the financial resources necessary to acquire further land and facilities at the Grove. However, they still retained the "bohemians"—the artists and musicians—who continued to entertain international members and guests."
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The tradition of a summer encampment was established six years after the Bohemian Club was formed in 1872. Henry "Harry" Edwards, a stage actor and founding member, announced that he was relocating to New York City to further his career. On June 29, 1878, somewhat fewer than 100 Bohemians gathered in the Redwoods in Marin County near Taylorville (present-day Samuel P. Taylor State Park) for an evening sendoff party in Edwards' honor.[16] Freely flowing liquor and some Japanese lanterns put a glow on the festivities, and club members retired at a late hour to the modest comfort of blankets laid on the dense mat of Redwood needles. This festive gathering was repeated the next year without Edwards, and became the club's yearly encampment.


and Cremony died the following summer after one of the other founders left..I can't find how many founders there were, would probably be interesting to know who were the ones that stayed in the club. I wonder how long is "Not long after the Club's establishment by newspaper journalists, it was commandeered". 6-7 years maybe lol.

So the club motto, "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here", supposedly "implies that outside concerns and business deals (networking) are to be left outside."

But thinking about Cremony being influenced by Apaches, reminded me of a blip I read about spiders from the mound builders sacred text site and funny it's more four forces,


'SPIDERS.--While the great Serpent Mounds have captured the most public interest among the Mound Builders' relics, the Spiders have the greatest fascination for me, personally. While exploring among the South Sea Islands some fifty years ago I constantly came across legends about the Grey and Black Pointed Spider. These legends showed that the Spider was symbolic of something, and that it was a sacred symbol,but of what I could not determine. The legends were all too obtuse. As examples:

"There the Grey and Black Pointed Spider would have mounted to Heaven, but he was held back by the bitterness of the cold."

"The roads were cunningly constructed to represent the web of the Grey and Black Pointed Spider, and no man could discover the beginning or the end thereof."

Now after waiting fifty years and having given up all hope of ever solving the riddle of the Grey and Black Pointed Spider I find the answer given at our very doorstep. Truly, here in America lies the key to unlock the great past history of man.

These Spiders were brought to my notice by my friend, Dr. Thomas M. Stewart, of Cincinnati, Ohio. They are engraved on circular pieces of shell, and on each of their backs is a symbol showing what they represented. These peculiar relics have been found in the burial vaults of the Mound Builders of Missouri, Arkansas and Tennessee. Because of the location of the places where they have been found Dr. Stewart suggested that they might have been used in the same manner as the Scarab in the Egyptian burial chambers.

The symbols on the backs of these Spiders are duplications of the symbols found as ornaments on the Water Bottle shown on page 241. No. 1 is the original symbol for the Four Great Forces shown in No. 2 on page 241. No. 2 shows the Forces working from west p. 237 to east as in No. 3 on page 241. No. 3 is the same compound symbol as shown in No. 2, page 241.


:4forcespiders:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]


and then another interesting 4 from the history of the club,

"Although no woman has ever been given full membership in the Bohemian Club, the four female honorary members were hostess Margaret Bowman, poet Ina Coolbrith (who served as librarian for the Club), actress Elizabeth Crocker Bowers, and writer Sara Jane Lippincott. Since Coolbrith's death in 1928, no other woman has been made a member."
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Nice info on the grove. It’s similar with many sites built over and on top of each other for better or worse.
Spider grandmother
The gorget of the water spider is symbolic to the Cherokee and is 4 force spider symbols you posted. It is based from the creation stories of earth when it became earth. Looks like a space ship huh lol
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Going through huge mound builder territory this past week has brought up the legends of the entities within the structures.

I wrote a little about it last year around this time when I went to the reservation.

Funny enough, their dress and language was what distinguished them apart from the tribes that lived around the mounds. One appeared out of no where to drive back the enemy and the rest appeared pouring out of the mounds. The were called the Immortals. Nunehi by tribes. They could become invisible. When finished with their task they go back into the side of the mounds.


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There's legends of them, cool! Ty. Did you write about them in this thread?

"A well-known story tells about a man named Yahula, who had become separated from a hunting party. His friends searched for him for a long time but eventually gave up and returned to their village, grieving for Yahula, whom they believed was dead. The Nunnehi found Yahula and brought him back to their townhouse to live with them. Yahula became immortal and lived with the Nunnehi for a long time until he began to miss his friends and family. One night Yahula went back to his village to see his friends and family, and he told them what had happened. When they asked Yahula to eat dinner with them, he said he could not, for he had eaten the food of the Nunnehi and could never again eat human food. He told them he had only come back to visit and that he would soon be returning to the Nunnehi. His friends and family begged him to stay, but he refused, telling them he could not choose death with his own people over immortality with the Nunnehi. Yahula then returned to the Nunnehi, but he continued to visit the Cherokee often."

This really stood out for me cause a giant denier, lol, on the 1833 thread is going on and on arguing against giants but it seems that poster's only point is that no giant fossilized feces have been found. I've been thinking 'so what, maybe they didn't 'eat' and/or digest food like we do?'.
 Quoting: Begin Again.


I’m making a post on giants soon. It was in duat thread I believe.
Diet and matter are very intrinsic to each other.
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Idol1 I lost My skeleton Key,..so I had to make myself a new One!tounge


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This guy has some interesting info. Starting with nimrod.
Highlighting his words:
GEN 10.8 “And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. GEN 10.9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.
GEN 10.10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel”

Genesis 10 provides precious few details regarding Nimrod: he was famous as a mighty hunter, a mighty warrior/leader, and/or a mighty one before God.

Orientalists, Armenian legends, and other mythology recorded Nimrod as a giant, but Masonic critics labeled this description a gross exaggeration, concluding that Nimrod was of great physical stature, but was not Nephilim.

Masonic history teems with Nimrod anecdotes: “The Cook Poem” and “The Tower Of Babel” recorded Nimrod as a mighty man, strong like a giant. “The Legend Of Nimrod” and “The Legend Of The Craft” recorded Nimrod as a mighty leader (king).



“Began” derives from “H2490 “Chalal”: to profane, break your word, dissolve, and opening a wedge. Seemingly then, Nimrod broke a vow dissolving his covenant with God, whereby Nimrod somehow became a “mighty one”.

Something mysterious likely happened to make Nimrod like a mighty one when he broke his vow to God, which hints at connected to the Babel rebellion, even though Nimrod is not explicitly mentioned in the Babel rebellion.

GEN 10.8 “And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth”


GEN 6.4 “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Giant in Gen 6 (KJV) derives from “H5903 Nphiyl” meaning giant, tyrant, and a tribe of giants as in Nephilim. Nephyl is rooted “H5303 Naphal” meaning to fallen, cast down, as in fallen ones, Naphalim their parents: the fallen angels or sons of God.

Nephilim were described in Gen 6 as “Mighty” Ones of old and “Men Of renown”. “Mighty” (Ones) in Gen 6 also derives from Gibborim, and thus the connection to Nimrod who became a “Mighty One”

Shem is rooted in, and equivalent to the “Shamayim H8064”: lofty, of the heavens/stars etc. With the “im” plural in Shemayim, it forms the heavenly ones, linking Nephilim descending from infamous sons of God, angels, stars of heaven.

Hence, Gibborim accurately describes Nimrod as a “potentates, tyrants, mighty hunter and warrior”, just as Gibborim is defined in its application in Ezekiel 32:12 & 21 for “mighty” (see my series on Eze 32).

Ezek 32:12 “By the swords of the mighty will I cause thy multitude to fall, the terrible of the nations, all of them: and they shall spoil the pomp of Egypt, and all the multitude thereof shall be destroyed.”
Ezek 32:21 “The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.”

However, Gibborim is not necessarily defined singularly as describing the posterity of angels, as Nephilim does.

Gibborim is used to describe angels (Psa 103:20 excel), and the power of God (Deu 10:17), as well as men (Ruth 2:1 Boaz), and David’s mighty men as a few examples.

Psa 103:20 “Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.”
Deut 10:17 “For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward”

The differentiation then is simply this: Nephilim can be described as Gibborim accurately, but Gibborim were not necessarily Nephilim. Gibborim can be powerful, human potentates and warriors as I believe Nimrod was, or angels.

Nimrod was born from Cush, and a human father (Gen 10 & 1 Chr 1:10), as opposed to being a son of fallen angels as Nephilim were (Gen 6:4), but at some point Nimrod began to be like a Nephilim; and thus the confusion.

Gen 10:8 “And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.”

Nimrod certainly acted Like a Nephilim tyrant, but was not Nephilim by definition or likely a hybrid human/Nephilim. Perhaps Nimrod’s rebellion, occult religion, or occult knowledge changed Nimrod, but we are not told how he became Gibborim.

What we do know is Nimrod activated some form of occult/secret knowledge to build Babel city and Babel Tower, which likely did not come from Noah or his 3 sons.

Gen 11:3 “And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.”

Masonic history possibly sheds some light, stating Nimrod reactivated antediluvian knowledge from Enoch son of Cain, the Seven Sacred Sciences to build Babel City and Babel Tower. Gen 11 hints at of the power of this knowledge.

Gen 11:6 “And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.”

Masonic accounts parallel Genesis regarding cities Nimrod built after Babel; most had ziggurats. Masonic history noted that after Babel, Nimrod constructed many cities with ziggurats to consummate his credentials as a Master Mason.

Gen 11:3 “And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name”

Nimrod continued his modus operandi begat at Babel city to further rebellious agenda spreading Enochian Mysticism and developing the the Seven Sciences.

Craft legends noted Chaldean Magi propagated Nimrod’s mysticism after Babel, which was then exported to Egypt and then the balance of the known world.

Nimrod is a celebrated Mason in the Craft. He applied his craft as he pleased, and renowned as the first post diluvian Grand Master writing the its new constitution.

Gen 10:10 “And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Gen 10:11
Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
Gen 10:12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.”

The Spurious Sciences are purportedly so powerful that almost anything is possible. Nimrod “loved” the spurious sciences and power deriving from their application.

“The Regius Manuscript” stated Nimrod was the first “Excellent [post diluvian] Grand Master”. Because Nimrod developed the sciences, he was regarded as the founder of the postdiluvian Seven Sciences.

However, Nimrod partnered with Hermes who discovered the preserved knowledge that led the renaissance of the postdiluvian, spurious sciences.

This illicit knowledge Nimrod possessed and applied as part taking oath’s to the polytheist pantheon of gods, maybe how Nimrod began to be Gibborim: by disavowing God and using the knowledge to enhance his strength and power.

Nimrod, in occult history, married into Rephaim bloodlines establishing the first postdiluvian hybrid royal dynasty that later spread to Egypt and elsewhere.

Nimrod’s empire was in Shinar both before and after Babel. “H8152 Shinar” is not Hebrew, but a foreign transliteration and origin of Sumer, a land between 2 rivers [Tigris and Euphrates] also used to describe Babylon and Chaldea.

Gen 11:2 “And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.”
Gen 11:4 “And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.”
Gen 10:10 “And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.”

Shinar was part of the Mesopotamian Rephaim alliance that warred with Covenant Land Rephaim kings in Abraham’s time: the “War of Giants” recorded in Gen 14.

Elam’s King Chedorlaomer successfully rebelled against Nimrod. Chedorlaomer was known variantly as king Kutir-Lagamar of Susa, the loyal vassal and tax collector of Amar-Sin, the biblical Amraphel, and the 3rd monarch of the Ur III Dynasty.

Elamites occupied the cities of Susa and Awan. They intermarried with off-shoot, wandering Aryans/Rephaim and Amorites, just Nimrod’s and his descendants did.

Gen 14:1 “And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations”

Now Sumer/Shinar records may have recorded Nimrod’s marital alliance with Rephaim via Enmerkar, Sumerian Enmerukar, king of Uruk in Shinar (Erech Gen 10:10) and one of the cities Nimrod founded.

Enmerukar was 3rd generation post flood, as was Nimrod. Enmerukar proclaimed the goddess Inanna as the partner deity to Enki reestablishing Enoch’s mysticism as seemingly Nimrod did.

Enmerukar was recorded in Akkadian narratives as the king who built a ziggurat at Eridu, in direct opposition to Enlil, and thus possibly locating the Tower of Babel at Eridu. Certainly, the Babel and Eridu narratives are eerily similar.

Eridu was the antediluvian city built by Enoch/Uanna (son of Cain) naming it after his son Irad. This was the city where the high priest dedicated a shrine to Enki.

Eridu was the legendary antediluvian city where kingship first descended from heaven before the flood, marking the division between the old world of hunters and gatherers and the new world of civilization.

Ergo, if Nimrod wanted make a statement in his rebellion, and to mock God, Eridu would have been the ideal location do so; to make a name for themselves.

Gen 11:4 “And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.”

Enmerukar/Nimrod defiantly rebuilt the two cities of the Evil Enoch, Uruk and Eridu as part of his renaissance rebellion against God re-instituting Enochian Mysticism.

Thus in the Sumerian epic, “Enmerukar And The Lord Of Aratta”, Enmerukar wanted to build Enki a shrine, a mountain [Mount Hermon].

But the “Ninurta’s Pride And Punishment” epic, Enlil thwarted Enmerukar’s pride. Enlil changed humankind’s speech, which had been one, just the Bible recorded.

Additionally, The “Book Of Jasher” offers another possible explanation as to how Nimrod transformed to become a Mighty One via the mysterious garments God made Adam and Eve, which Nimrod allegedly inherited from Cush at age 20.

Gen 3:21 “Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.”

However, we must be very careful with the Book Of Jasher as it has many Cabalistic corruptions and missing verses if it is indeed the true Book of Jasher. But, this is the account in Jasher:

7:24. “And the garments of skin which God made for Adam and his wife, when they went out of the garden, were given to Cush.
25. For after the death of Adam and his wife, the garments were given to Enoch, the son of Jared, and when Enoch was taken up to God, he gave them to Methuselah, his son.
26. And at the death of Methuselah, Noah took them and brought them to the ark, and they were with him until he went out of the ark.
27. And in their going out, Ham stole those garments from Noah his father, and he took them and hid them from his brothers.
28. And when Ham begat his first born Cush, he gave him the garments in secret, and they were with Cush many days.
29. And Cush also concealed them from his sons and brothers, and when Cush had begotten Nimrod, he gave him those garments through his love for him, and Nimrod grew up, and when he was twenty years old he put on those garments.
30. And Nimrod became strong when he put on the garments, and God gave him might and strength, and he was a mighty hunter in the earth, yea, he was a mighty hunter in the field, and he hunted the animals and he built altars, and he offered upon them the animals before the Lord.
31. And Nimrod strengthened himself, and he rose up from amongst his brethren, and he fought the battles of his brethren against all their enemies round about.”
 Quoting: Gary Wayne



Noting the brick construction ziggurats and Sumerian Babylonian brick constructing which is potters wheel AFTER stone technology
Cue iron rod of smashing clay per revelations. Interesting I think.
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Idol1 I lost My skeleton Key,..so I had to make myself a new One!tounge


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See where the overlay of enochian came in with giants

I noticed Ra, the sun god, was shaped like a giant.

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See where the overlay of enochian came in with giants

I noticed Ra, the sun god, was shaped like a giant.
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Hybrids disavow chose the giants way of golden sun it seems
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Golden sun is the burning man lol


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The question is which Hermès
Thoth or thrice great lol





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