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A Surefire Way to Get Out of Jury Duty!

 
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A surefire way to get out of jury "duty."
I had to sacrifice 10.5 hours of work this week to do jury "duty" (i.e. forced labor). Fortunately, I know of a way to get out of jury duty without lying or I would still be there. FYI, there is NO Constitutional requirement that I serve jury duty, only that I receive a trial by jury if accused of a crime by the state, so please don't respond by saying it's my "civic duty" or the "moral" thing to do. Heck, they don't even want guys like me most of the time because each side simply tries to pick the most manipulatable people they can find and I think for myself. They don't want critical thinkers to serve on juries, and this makes sense if you stop and think about it. The goal isn't to serve justice - it's to win the case..... As Norm Crosby said, "When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty."

Anyhow, here's the secret to getting out of jury duty, but before I tell you how let me warn you that you HAVE to do this in a way that doesn't look like you're trying to get out of serving or the presiding potentate might cite you for contempt and make you pay a fine or worse.... What you do is answer YES on the pre-jury-selection survey to the question asking if you have a belief or attitude that causes you to doubt or dismiss the validity of the judicial system. When the judge asks you to elaborate, simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION; however, you don't believe that it applies to this case. The court system, especially here in authoritarian California, is SO AFRAID of this LEGAL remedy that they don't even want the IDEA presented and potentially explained. You WILL be dismissed as I was today.


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A surefire way to get out of jury "duty."
I had to sacrifice 10.5 hours of work this week to do jury "duty" (i.e. forced labor). Fortunately, I know of a way to get out of jury duty without lying or I would still be there. FYI, there is NO Constitutional requirement that I serve jury duty, only that I receive a trial by jury if accused of a crime by the state, so please don't respond by saying it's my "civic duty" or the "moral" thing to do. Heck, they don't even want guys like me most of the time because each side simply tries to pick the most manipulatable people they can find and I think for myself. They don't want critical thinkers to serve on juries, and this makes sense if you stop and think about it. The goal isn't to serve justice - it's to win the case..... As Norm Crosby said, "When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty."

Anyhow, here's the secret to getting out of jury duty, but before I tell you how let me warn you that you HAVE to do this in a way that doesn't look like you're trying to get out of serving or the presiding potentate might cite you for contempt and make you pay a fine or worse.... What you do is answer YES on the pre-jury-selection survey to the question asking if you have a belief or attitude that causes you to doubt or dismiss the validity of the judicial system. When the judge asks you to elaborate, simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION; however, you don't believe that it applies to this case. The court system, especially here in authoritarian California, is SO AFRAID of this LEGAL remedy that they don't even want the IDEA presented and potentially explained. You WILL be dismissed as I was today.


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 Quoting: Dick Tracy


simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION

bsflag

Doesn't work, I have tried this 5 times. You are still required to report regardless of your beliefs. It is up to the attorneys to decide whether to keep you as a juror...not up to you.
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A surefire way to get out of jury "duty."
I had to sacrifice 10.5 hours of work this week to do jury "duty" (i.e. forced labor). Fortunately, I know of a way to get out of jury duty without lying or I would still be there. FYI, there is NO Constitutional requirement that I serve jury duty, only that I receive a trial by jury if accused of a crime by the state, so please don't respond by saying it's my "civic duty" or the "moral" thing to do. Heck, they don't even want guys like me most of the time because each side simply tries to pick the most manipulatable people they can find and I think for myself. They don't want critical thinkers to serve on juries, and this makes sense if you stop and think about it. The goal isn't to serve justice - it's to win the case..... As Norm Crosby said, "When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty."

Anyhow, here's the secret to getting out of jury duty, but before I tell you how let me warn you that you HAVE to do this in a way that doesn't look like you're trying to get out of serving or the presiding potentate might cite you for contempt and make you pay a fine or worse.... What you do is answer YES on the pre-jury-selection survey to the question asking if you have a belief or attitude that causes you to doubt or dismiss the validity of the judicial system. When the judge asks you to elaborate, simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION; however, you don't believe that it applies to this case. The court system, especially here in authoritarian California, is SO AFRAID of this LEGAL remedy that they don't even want the IDEA presented and potentially explained. You WILL be dismissed as I was today.


How to Get Out of Jury Duty…and be a hero for it, instead of a “bad citizen”!
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 Quoting: Dick Tracy


simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION

bsflag

Doesn't work, I have tried this 5 times. You are still required to report regardless of your beliefs. It is up to the attorneys to decide whether to keep you as a juror...not up to you.
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I call BS on you. You still have to report, but during the selection process, if you tell the prosecutor that you believe in jury nullification, they'll toss you out. Been there, done that. As a matter of fact, while waiting for the jury selection process, a woman sitting next to me asked me how might she get out of this.....I told her, but she was as clueless as you were....

She became a juror, while I drove back to my job site....hhaha....
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tell them u just can tbe fair or un biased
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Isn't there other ways to get out of Jury Duty. Couldn't you say you are racist and that your hatred towards any defendant, especially if they are anti-Trump, will sway the case towards the prosecution and therefore; you can not be an indiscriminant Juror....
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This does indeed work. I was called in twice in the past year and both times mentioned my belief in nullification and was dismissed.
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If I said I believe in JURY NULLIFICATION, it would not be a lie because I do believe in it.

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Tell them that niqqers always are the cause of the problem.
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tell them u just can tbe fair or un biased
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I've used jury nullification successfully, and I've also used the "I am biased" approach successfully.

It doesn't sound civically responsible, but they both worked.

Both the prosecutors and judges hate the term "jury nullification" universally.

They also hate a biased juror, for various reasons. You could say, oh, "he wouldn't have been arrested if he was innocent", which is what I used.....many other excuses...

If you actually know the defendant, you can claim you hate the bastard/bitch...that works too.
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Tell them you always say the opposite of what you really mean.
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Tell them that you don't believe in "This Court System" and that you believe in Natural Law....
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I tell them that I'm a conservative Christian, the prosecution always wants me but never the defense
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I just tell them, all guilty people arent black

but all blacks are guilty
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I'm not proud of getting out of jury duty, but yes, I'm good at it...

The problem is they should pay more money so one doesn't have to miss their job so much. That would spark interest in justice and remove to some extent the interest in keeping their jobs and family fed. They don't do that these days......

Go back to paying in silver dollars or something....People are broke these days.
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Tell them if they want you to serve, they need to compensate you, otherwise you are serving under duress, which is against the law.

Also tell them you know the whole court system is biased towards a profit, not justice, and thus is immoral and forfeit of duty. Then ask them how their stock options are doing and if they have any conflicts of interest.
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A surefire way to get out of jury "duty."
I had to sacrifice 10.5 hours of work this week to do jury "duty" (i.e. forced labor). Fortunately, I know of a way to get out of jury duty without lying or I would still be there. FYI, there is NO Constitutional requirement that I serve jury duty, only that I receive a trial by jury if accused of a crime by the state, so please don't respond by saying it's my "civic duty" or the "moral" thing to do. Heck, they don't even want guys like me most of the time because each side simply tries to pick the most manipulatable people they can find and I think for myself. They don't want critical thinkers to serve on juries, and this makes sense if you stop and think about it. The goal isn't to serve justice - it's to win the case..... As Norm Crosby said, "When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty."

Anyhow, here's the secret to getting out of jury duty, but before I tell you how let me warn you that you HAVE to do this in a way that doesn't look like you're trying to get out of serving or the presiding potentate might cite you for contempt and make you pay a fine or worse.... What you do is answer YES on the pre-jury-selection survey to the question asking if you have a belief or attitude that causes you to doubt or dismiss the validity of the judicial system. When the judge asks you to elaborate, simply tell him you believe in JURY NULLIFICATION; however, you don't believe that it applies to this case. The court system, especially here in authoritarian California, is SO AFRAID of this LEGAL remedy that they don't even want the IDEA presented and potentially explained. You WILL be dismissed as I was today.


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 Quoting: Dick Tracy


OR, you could accept jury duty and educate the other jurors on jury nullification, who may then educate members of their family as well as friends. Just your one act of jury duty could educate 100's or 1000's.
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You gave up the opportunity to nullify a bullshit law for someone who committed a crime with no victim?
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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
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You gave up the opportunity to nullify a bullshit law for someone who committed a crime with no victim?
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In my situations, it was a victimless crime.....Growing or selling marijuana.....That's why I acted as I did.

The judge told us that we had a duty, but, as a juror, he was just growing crops..No way in hell I would convict a pot grower.

Fuck the judge, the people ultimately have the say so.

Sorry, but that is the truth.
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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
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Yes, they send you a certified mailing. It is a summons and they tell you the penalties if you don't comply, in my case, 60 days in jail.
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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
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Yes, they send you a certified mailing. It is a summons and they tell you the penalties if you don't comply, in my case, 60 days in jail.
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No shit. My county must be much poorer than yours. I have received two jury duty notices in 44 years of life.

The first one I called the number to see when I was supposed to be there. Excused.

The second I just ignored because I had a previous commitment.

I actually would like to sit on a jury some day. In my current job I get full salary minus my jury compensation.
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I just had my Doctor write me a lifetime jury excuse for Agoraphobia.
I do have health issues that keep me from going but my Doc didn't want to break hippa laws by telling the court house peeps about it all, so he just said Agoraphobia.

Lots of people get a lifetime jury exemption, all those elder folks in assisted living places and other health issues can get you excused for life.

I used to care about the jury system and courts until I got older and witnessed first hand many people that I have known in my life get screwed by the courts and crooked lawyers. Screw the system, it's been broke for decades.
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Tell them that niqqers always are the cause of the problem.
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Thats actually what i did. The form asked "have you ever been the victim of a crime", and i put "my uncle was killed by a black thug on my grandmothers doorstep for $80. Does that count?" (True story and this small town knows it)

Never heard a peep out of them since.
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Tell your doctor you have anxiety and an overactive bladder and he can wtite a note
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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
 Quoting: Occam's Deplorable Razor


This.

Thank you for posting what I was going to. :)


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Don't mess with talking to those jackasses
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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
 Quoting: Occam's Deplorable Razor


Yes, they send you a certified mailing. It is a summons and they tell you the penalties if you don't comply, in my case, 60 days in jail.
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Jury duty isn't sent via certified mail.

What state are you in?

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Did they send your jury notification by certified mail?

Can they prove you ever received the jury notification?

You know it is a notification and not a summons right?
 Quoting: Occam's Deplorable Razor


This.

Thank you for posting what I was going to. :)


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Just tell them your are not racist...you believe everyone should own a nagger.

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Good comments and spot on. They are terrified of jury nullification.

Another method that is very simple, is as follows:

Here where we live, the state uses property tax rolls for selection of potential jurors.

If you live in an apartment in this state you will NEVER be called for jury duty.

If you live in a trailer you own; on a rented space in a park, you will NEVER be called.

You must own the land upon which the house or improvements are placed.

It does not matter if you have a Warranty Deed or a Deed of Trust; which means you still owe money on the property.

Use an LLC to own your real property aka house, home, real property etc.

They cannot call an LLC to jury duty as it is a non-person entity which has some rights that exceed those of persons.

There is another effective method to be excused. I'll save it for later. Tired of typing.

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I tell them I am less likely to believe a cop because he's a cop. Worked 3 times.





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