ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

All I can say is there isn't a "pre-trib".

There's still Believers at the "5th Trumpet"

Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that
they should not hurt the grass of the
earth, neither any green thing, neither
any tree; but only those men which have
not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Another verse that proves the "one Gospel" truth.

When Ananias "balks" at being sent to see Saul...

Acts 9 (Jesus talking to Ananias)

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy
way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to
bear my name before the Gentiles, and
kings, and the children of Israel:

16 For I will shew him how great things
he must suffer for my name's sake.

Jesus was really sent to ALL peoples.

Luke 2

25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,

28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

With over 400 different bibles..in this 2020...

We need to study to find out sound and unsound doctrine.

I use the 1611 kjv.

Jesus said the holy spirit of teuth would cone to lead to all truth the Gospel of slvation the godprl of God the Godprl of grace the astounding revelations given to st Paul by his time coning and being converted God chose him to reveal the ful ess of the grace that by that time then once given were of the apostles whole unamisoudky in agreement of the doctrine of grace alone by faith in Christ Jesus not works of law.

I have a PDF of 1611 King James Red Letter Bible that I use for 99% of my scripture postings.

There's no perfect Bible but the KJV is still one of the very best.

Yet Paul talks about "fruits of the spirit".

And Jesus states that Believers should do "Father's Will".

BOTH of these would include "works".

Even by obeying just the 2 commandments that Jesus gave, they BOTH cover all of the 10 Commandments that the Father gave.

Paul delivered those commandments to new Believers.

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

And notice in this verse that the Father differentiates between "commandments" and "laws".

Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice,
and kept my charge,
my commandments,
my statutes,
and my laws.

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A challenge for anyone who says that "Paul teaches a different message than Jesus or the other Apostles".

"Not the same message"?

Have you EVER LOOKED at scriptures to CHECK that "claim"?
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1. Belief that Jesus is the Son of God? Check

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:


2. Repentence? Check

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.


3. Commandments? Check

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.


4. Doing the Father's Will? Check

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

An Expanded list...

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1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.

Paul - Repentence? Check

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Paul - Belief that Jesus is the Son of God? Check

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:


3. Obey / Keep the Commandments

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Paul - Commandments? Check

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.


4. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Paul - Doing the Father's Will? Check

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;


5. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Paul - Forgiveness

2 Corinthians 2:7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.


6. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Paul doesn't use the exact phrase- but he clearly understands what happens.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Peter.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Grace comes from faith and repentance from disbelief.

1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.


Paul - Repentence? Check

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

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This 40 min video covers the first 4 cities that Paul went to after his 9 years in Tarsus.

The guy giving the presentation also noticed that
whereever Paul went, it was to the synagogue first.


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Thanks - I'll watch this today.

I spent most of my life being a "Believer" of both God and Jesus but I rarely prayed and had never studied the Bible.

That changed 9 years ago as I had an accident that severly limited my mobility, so at one point I decided to read the Bible. I had 4 different translations that I read.

Afterwards, I started looking at what mainstream Christianity was teaching - and much of it was not what I got out of my reading.

"Jesus is God"? Jesus never said such, and neither did the Apostles, save for Thomas saying Jesus is "my God".

"Trinity"? The Lord's Prayer is to the Father, and Jesus and the Apostles mention the Father 400+ times in the New Testament. That's significant to me.

Thread: Jesus and the Apostles - 400 Verses That Reference Either The Father or His SON - Son of God

Churches spend more time preaching thier specific doctrines and the s"supporting verses" than they do actually the things that Jesus really said.

I blame the seminaries as they have been pushing the "Schofield" Bible & Catholic views. A couple of years ago I ran across this article. I was not surprised.

Thread: Over 70% of Churches Reject Basic Biblical Teachings

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You come into my topic and try to change the conversation.

The Bible is "Lies"?

God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

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Evidence for the Exodus and Sodom & Gomorrah

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My own words...

"Father God's plan to regather the peoples of all nations back to Him through Belief in the existence and teachings of His only begotten Son Jesus, who taught that through Repentence of sin and Faith / Belief in Him, that people would be forgiven their sins and alloewd entrance into a future Kingdom, where the Father woud dwell with them eternally."

Utter NONSENSE.
All you're doing is replying to the thread "title".

Scripture PROVES your statement wrong.

READ the evidence I posted.

It's called THE Gospel.

Peter WARNED about taking Paul out of context.


2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Complete hogwash.

How could Paul teach gentiles the same gospel that Jesus announced? They are 2 different and distinct peoples, covenant-wise.

There are 4 Gospels in the Word of God:

1. The Gospel of the Kingdom (reference Matt. 4:23 and Matt. 10:5-7)

2. The Gospel of the Grace of God (reference Acts 15:11 and Acts 20:24)

3. Another Gospel (reference Galations 1:6-8 and Galations 2:16)

4. The Everlasting Gospel (reference Revelation 14:6-7)

Depending upon when you lived in history would be the Gospel you were called under ...

4 Gospels.

Pure Pauline foolishness.
Put the crack pipe down.

You didn't even read the massive amount of evidence in this thread. You are only addressing the TITLE of the Topic.

You are utterly WRONG.

Jesus told the Apostles to go and teach to ALL the world

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

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On TOP of that...according to your NONSENSE...
...WHICH Gospel will be preached in the END Times???

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

You haven't done ANY research / Bible Study on your OWN.

ALL you are doing is spouting your false Pauline doctrine.

So what? It doesn't matter.
ONE Gospel - many different "names".

Jesus clearly sent the Apostles to the entire world. Just because their travels aren't in the Bible doesn't mean they didn't GO.

EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.
Scripture PORVES these things.


Really? Have you ever READ the Bible?

Jesus spent a couple of days with the Samaritans.
That was NOT in Israel.

Jesus refused NO one.

The first Gentiles who were "Saved" by the Apostles.

Acts 8 - Andrew and the Ethiopian

Acts 10 - Peter and Cornelius



Says who? Utter NONSENSE.
Jesus clearly said "follow ME"


Again...says WHO?
WHERE is that in the Bible?
It's NOT there.
Paul only garbage.


So what?
The verse does NOT say "Paul ONLY".

There isn't one "argument" that you can present that scripture doesn't refute.



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So...which "Gospel" is THIS - the everlasting gospel - that gets preached to the entire WORLD?????

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Which ONE of the so-called many gospels that are "named"?

Here's a list of the different "names" used in the KJV for the Gospel.

"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

Here's 10 other "gospel of" phrases.

-gospel of Jesus Christ
-gospel of the grace of God
-gospel of his Son
-gospel of your salvation
-2) gospel of peace
-gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
-gospel of the blessed God
-gospel of the uncircumcision
-gospel of the circumcision

These are ALL merely different names for the SAME Gospel.

THE Gospel - which leads ALL Believers into Father God's future kingdom of everlasting life.

Are you really this ignorant of the FACTS?

1 Chronicles 16:15

King James Version

15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;


2 Kings 17:37-38

King James Version

37 And the statutes, and the ordinances, and the law, and the commandment, which he wrote for you, ye shall observe to do for evermore; and ye shall not fear other gods.

38 And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods.

2 John 5

King James Version

5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

1 John 5:1-3

King James Version

5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Hebrews 10:26-27

King James Version

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

.....

Jesus isn't wrong.
See what He LATER told them.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

.....

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them....

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into
all the world, and preach the gospel to
every creature.

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission
of sins should be preached in his name
among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Amen. The law of Moses taught man what sin was, the cost of sin is blood and death, Jesus fulfilled the law with his blood giving us the opportunity for sin forgiveness and thereby victory over death through him, but sin is still sin according to the law of moses. We no longer sacrifice animals blood to attone for our sins as Jesus was the sacrificial lamb who shed his blood for us, giving us the chance to be forgiven for our sins through repentance through him and his blood he shed for us. He "fulfilled" the law, he didnt destroy it, through Adam death came into the world, through Jesus Christ death was overcame. There is ONE gospel, Paul, the apostles all go hand in hand preaching the same message. Jesus is the seed of Israel both spiritually and physically, we whom love Jesus are spiritually of Israel, and the teachings to the children of Israel are still relevant to Christians now.

"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

10 other "gospel of"

- gospel of Jesus Christ
- gospel of the grace of God
- gospel of his Son
- gospel of peace - 2 times
- gospel of the uncircumcision
- gospel of the circumcision
- gospel of your salvation
- gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
- gospel of the blessed God

18 various "_____ gospel" (words other than 'the")

- this gospel - 3 times
- my gospel - 3 times
- Christ's gospel
- our gospel - 3 times
- glorious gospel - 2 times
- another gospel - 2 times
- other gospel - 2 times
- that gospel
- everlasting gospel

You FAIL again Rastus.

The Gospel - meaning ONE

The Gospel - according to - Matthew
The Gospel - according to - Mark
The Gospel - according to - Luke
The Gospel - according to - John

WHERE is Paul's "gospel"?

The plural word "gospels" is NEVER used in the KJV.

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Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

in First Corinthians chapter 15.
You ought to read it sometime ... written by the Apostle Paul:

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain."

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"


THAT is Paul's Gospel, by which you will be judged:


Romans 2:16
"In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."

Romans 16:25
"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began"

2Timothy 2:8
"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel"


Now shut the hell up you Paul hater.

Go back to your legalism.