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CHICAGO.. Is it TIME..Should we send in the FEDERAL troops or is it a IGNITION point for Civil War.. If we do.?.

 
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It could be a trap ...
the last time this was suggested, Chicago said that they would call in the UN to "help" before they asked for Federal assistance

so when they found out that that option was not available - maybe they thought that by making things WORSE (to blame on Trump) they would get Trump to send in the Feds, and then Nuke Shitcongo ... and take out a great portion of the HLS law enforcers ...

we need to keep a close eye on Rahm - if he suddenly leaves town, everyone else should too
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It could be a trap ...
the last time this was suggested, Chicago said that they would call in the UN to "help" before they asked for Federal assistance

so when they found out that that option was not available - maybe they thought that by making things WORSE (to blame on Trump) they would get Trump to send in the Feds, and then Nuke Shitcongo ... and take out a great portion of the HLS law enforcers ...

we need to keep a close eye on Rahm - if he suddenly leaves town, everyone else should too
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YUP..

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They need to occupy my area for a few years.
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Send in the national guard. Remove the mayor at gunpoint and install an interim mayor until a special election can be held.
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Some say NO to my poll..WHY??..
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State needs to go in 1st. Rule of law needs to be maintained.

That said, Sanctuary Mayor gonna git it ...

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Send in the national guard. Remove the mayor at gunpoint and install an interim mayor until a special election can be held.
 Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS


Some say NO to my poll..WHY??..
 Quoting: THE GRAND INQUISIDOR


State needs to go in 1st. Rule of law needs to be maintained.

That said, Sanctuary Mayor gonna git it ...

shoon
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But the state will not..
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All you've got to do is block off all access to the inner city, no food no water no fleeing and no entering. In 30 days, go in and wipe out the cannibals still alive.
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build a wall around them
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make it a prison
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That would be opening Pandora's Box and set a precedent.

Before too long you'd have federal troops all over the place for a variety of "reasons."

What happens when we get our next Democratic president? They might put troops in small town USA to prevent "racism." You can see where this would go?
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you would prefer to see Chicago go anarchist?
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Send in the national guard. Remove the mayor at gunpoint and install an interim mayor until a special election can be held.
 Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS


Some say NO to my poll..WHY??..
 Quoting: THE GRAND INQUISIDOR


State needs to go in 1st. Rule of law needs to be maintained.

That said, Sanctuary Mayor gonna git it ...

shoon
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But the state will not..
 Quoting: THE GRAND INQUISIDOR


And nobody should until there is some outbreak they'll spread all over <or> they start leaving the crib to rob other places.
They are a city. Are they a city? They claim to be?
They are responcible for everything there except the jets spraying that they can't reach.
Nobody owes them or wants to waste tons of cash and set really bad precedents in OUR country for "triflin" crap that boils down to "retard, straighten up".
Nobody owes them a dime or to get shot in a typical place they take over.
Let those kneelers and national enemies act like everybody else. Its thier nest and nobody cares if they want to sh*t it up and rot in it too. A good riddance.
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We should airdrop guns and ammo and sit back while the gangbangers kill each other off. It's the best thing that could ever happen to the city.
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I agree 100%, but throw in some booze with the weapons to speed up the process.
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State needs to go in 1st. Rule of law needs to be maintained.

That said, Sanctuary Mayor gonna git it ...

:shoon:
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The state of Illinois? What are they going to do, seize all the gang bangers drug money to make their pension payments?
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That would be opening Pandora's Box and set a precedent.

Before too long you'd have federal troops all over the place for a variety of "reasons."

What happens when we get our next Democratic president? They might put troops in small town USA to prevent "racism." You can see where this would go?
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you would prefer to see Chicago go anarchist?
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Chicago is going to become like Malmo, Sweden. Where Government and private services won't even go into some areas. (No go zones).

Once you let the problem become too ingrained, You have a very hard trying to change it back.
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Its a Black on Black problem. Have the Blacks take care of it!
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I'm black pal. I don't even have to state my credentials on here because people here know how I call it. Let's take a quick and speedy look at how it's just NOT a black problem.

White Americans are under direct siege to the point of being called out by their own for extinction over a very diabolical socio-political bias. I do not agree with that whatsoever than I would for Black Americans being brainwashed into thinking it's all the white man's fault for the shit that's happened to them and America on the whole. It's everyone's fault for letting this shit run on as long as it has and now, here we are.

Drop the race card on it being a black problem and get with the fucking program. We are all in danger. I warned about Distraction, Diversion, and Division. It doesn't get any more clear than what we are seeing today and there is an undeniable strength when the ethnicity's unite. The opposition fears that more than any firearm. Imagine black and white Americans uniting. Hell, all different ethnic Americans uniting against the Machine. That's an unpardonable and life-threatening monkeywrench to the Machine. That's why they are doing what they do and you're supporting that Machine with the shit you say.

Think about it. We are stronger united than divided. I've no bias save for what I have for the enemy.

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I fully agree with your assessment of the cause and the cure. People need to unite as a coherent group regardless of ethnicity, and put down the thug culture. I do not know how to fix it, but good people need to stand as one against the uncontrolled criminality.
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There are only two ways to fix the problem. Vote each and every person that's in a position that could've fixed this, out. On a sunny day with a perfect world, we could. The other option has a very high degree of probability of happening versus the former and that is a kinetic civil war/revolutionary war that will only lead to one side winning and changing things either for the better or worse.

Logically, I do not see how peace can work here when the opposition is always bringing all forms of violence on their platform that pushes folks like us on the defensive. The times we do prevail politically without violence, the opposition still brings their violence to us and people get hurt. At some point, they will resort to the use of firearms being used and it will promote one hell of a response that will not end until they are wiped out.

That's how I see this playing out.
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That would be opening Pandora's Box and set a precedent.

Before too long you'd have federal troops all over the place for a variety of "reasons."

What happens when we get our next Democratic president? They might put troops in small town USA to prevent "racism." You can see where this would go?
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you would prefer to see Chicago go anarchist?
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Chicago is going to become like Malmo, Sweden. Where Government and private services won't even go into some areas. (No go zones).

Once you let the problem become too ingrained, You have a very hard trying to change it back.
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Let em rot until the new madrid goes off. Then they can be cdc and fematized and troops cam be gaurding my country, not babysitting losers
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Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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This is not about politics or race any longer, this is about community and the surrounding communities identifying a problem and looking for solutions on all levels. People are dying, most are innocent victims.

We can not choose what happens, but we can pray for them and hear their pleas. And until the "men of bold" stand up for what is right and are not seeking monies or reward, this is in the hands of some type of government. That is just the way it is.

I personally will not be helping Chicago, but will be praying something happens very soon. JMHO
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Trump should go to Chicago. Right down there in the south side and talk to them. Show them the evil of their ways lol.
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We should airdrop guns and ammo and sit back while the gangbangers kill each other off. It's the best thing that could ever happen to the city.
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I agree 100%, but throw in some booze with the weapons to speed up the process.
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Add some PCP dispensers.
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Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
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It's an opportunity for Trump if he plays it right, to secure the black vote and guarantee re-election.

There are already grumblings within the black community about illegals being more important than they are by the Dems.

Damn good point really.
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That would be opening Pandora's Box and set a precedent.

Before too long you'd have federal troops all over the place for a variety of "reasons."

What happens when we get our next Democratic president? They might put troops in small town USA to prevent "racism." You can see where this would go?
 Quoting: VegasRick


Exactly!

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While I sympathize with OP, I believe using the weight of big government has terrible consequences for all of us down the road.
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Acutally I Agree..

BUT..How do we STOP the degradation of society..Which will kill us all..
 Quoting: THE GRAND INQUISIDOR


Societies do not always advance forward. Historically the ones that integrated lower IQ, primitive peoples, failed. Roman Empire is a prime example, EU is a current example. But then the closed societies/nations with fare better, look at Japan, China, Poland, Russia one people one mindset all related.
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This is not about politics or race any longer, this is about community and the surrounding communities identifying a problem and looking for solutions on all levels. People are dying, most are innocent victims.

We can not choose what happens, but we can pray for them and hear their pleas. And until the "men of bold" stand up for what is right and are not seeking monies or reward, this is in the hands of some type of government. That is just the way it is.

I personally will not be helping Chicago, but will be praying something happens very soon. JMHO
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Goofus.
It is all about politics and race.
Low IQ is affecting both the political environment here. As well as the primitive behavior of the feral criminal element, crime stats prove it.
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We should airdrop guns and ammo and sit back while the gangbangers kill each other off. It's the best thing that could ever happen to the city.
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Exactly. Give them the right to conceal carry
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All you've got to do is block off all access to the inner city, no food no water no fleeing and no entering. In 30 days, go in and wipe out the cannibals still alive.
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build a wall around them
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Sounds like a good plan.
Like that movie: "Escape from New York."
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Thee Governor could send in State assets of the Guard, but they could only work under police direction. Having live ammunition for them would be a BIG question. It might be possible for the Federal Government (DoD) to make the payroll for such a mission, but it would still be under local civilian control.

For the Feds to send in the Guard, the area would have to be put under martial law. This takes, literally, an act of Congress. The situation would need to be much worse than it is now for that to have a chance of passing.


My answer to the poll, under the current situation, is no.
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negroes demonstrating closed down the (state owned)DanRyan expressway for hours with gov, state police, and CPD approval.
They all want Chicongo to self destruct.
Same kind of demonstration closed down stalkerive a week later, they marched&tried to crash the Cubs game. :)
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I'm not saying it is not a very bad situation. I just think that there should be a better solution to the violence.

I would suggest that Chicago passes a mandatory gun ownership law. Every home has at least one weapon. Right to carry needs to be reinforced. Stand Your Ground laws need to be enacted. New laws addressing drive by shooting should be enacted--any vehicle with shooters inside are fair game to any armed civilians in the area.

Shootings would likely increase for a few days or maybe a couple of weeks. After that, it would rapidly deescalate
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Trump should go to Chicago. Right down there in the south side and talk to them. Show them the evil of their ways lol.
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how about - YOU go first
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Thee Governor could send in State assets of the Guard, but they could only work under police direction. Having live ammunition for them would be a BIG question. It might be possible for the Federal Government (DoD) to make the payroll for such a mission, but it would still be under local civilian control.

For the Feds to send in the Guard, the area would have to be put under martial law. This takes, literally, an act of Congress. The situation would need to be much worse than it is now for that to have a chance of passing.


My answer to the poll, under the current situation, is no.
 Quoting: Green Tabber


much worse than 20+ shot a week and 5-6 dead a week??? how much worse should it be allowed to get? send a message and start shooting thugs dead in the streets.
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Wrong message..Round them up and throw them OUT..
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That is what they did in New Orleans. This had a very bad effect on many cities hundreds of miles away--even all the way to Las Vegas.

The cesspool needs to be repaired--not spread around. I think it can be fixed, but better if it is fixed by its own people--if that is possible--I'm not really sure about that.
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This is not about politics or race any longer, this is about community and the surrounding communities identifying a problem and looking for solutions on all levels. People are dying, most are innocent victims.

We can not choose what happens, but we can pray for them and hear their pleas. And until the "men of bold" stand up for what is right and are not seeking monies or reward, this is in the hands of some type of government. That is just the way it is.

I personally will not be helping Chicago, but will be praying something happens very soon. JMHO
 Quoting: Denholm


Goofus.
It is all about politics and race.
Low IQ is affecting both the political environment here. As well as the primitive behavior of the feral criminal element, crime stats prove it.
 Quoting: USCrusader_1


thanks I love being called Goofus hf

yep to most people, maybe all, it is about race and politics (and IQ), but first I really just think about people dying though, many many people dying, way to many

call me weird, I just find that odd most of all
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Its a Black on Black problem. Have the Blacks take care of it!
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No it isn't.
You don't go to the media for the data because they're all on the take. The trains, buses, cars bring them to every part of the city from the south side. Cops here used to have 'safe' districts that they and the poltico's lived in, but no more.
The races of the attacker and the prey are not reported except for the police blogs and neighborhood watch sites the reality is eye opening. Not B vs B, its feral yutes vs everyone else.
The data's out there.
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That would be opening Pandora's Box and set a precedent.

Before too long you'd have federal troops all over the place for a variety of "reasons."

What happens when we get our next Democratic president? They might put troops in small town USA to prevent "racism." You can see where this would go?
 Quoting: VegasRick


Exactly!

clappa

While I sympathize with OP, I believe using the weight of big government has terrible consequences for all of us down the road.
 Quoting: Voodoo South


Acutally I Agree..

BUT..How do we STOP the degradation of society..Which will kill us all..
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Take away GUN FREE ZONES...W(hy)TH didn't the 2018 Range Rover pregnant Mom driving kids around have a WEAPON?
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Exactly
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chicago & all the other lib cities have no

one to blame but themselves. Head Start,

basketball at midnight & programs for the

under-priveldged have taught them to be

who they are, heartless killers. day care

too, look at the results.
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This is not about politics or race any longer, this is about community and the surrounding communities identifying a problem and looking for solutions on all levels. People are dying, most are innocent victims.

We can not choose what happens, but we can pray for them and hear their pleas. And until the "men of bold" stand up for what is right and are not seeking monies or reward, this is in the hands of some type of government. That is just the way it is.

I personally will not be helping Chicago, but will be praying something happens very soon. JMHO
 Quoting: Denholm


Goofus.
It is all about politics and race.
Low IQ is affecting both the political environment here. As well as the primitive behavior of the feral criminal element, crime stats prove it.
 Quoting: USCrusader_1


thanks I love being called Goofus hf

yep to most people, maybe all, it is about race and politics (and IQ), but first I really just think about people dying though, many many people dying, way to many

call me weird, I just find that odd most of all
 Quoting: Denholm

sorry, you're not a goofus...
I'm upset because I grew up in Chicago and hate to see it like it is :(

There is a true self segregation of the upper class and the lower class in Chicongo, its just recently the lines are all erased.





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