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Flea and Tick medications linked to neurological problems in Dogs and Cats

 
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My dog has had seizures regularly since the first time I used flea medication on him. I don't use it anymore, but he appears to have permanent neurological damage from just one or two applications of the stuff.

He's down to one episode every 2 or 3 months, but still, it's a disturbing thing to witness.
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This pisses me off. No longer will our babies get this shit. Ever.
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I adopted two kittens from a shelter. There was a protocol to follow for a few months before it became adopted instead of fostered. Every visit, they dosed them with the flea stuff. The boy had shortness of breath problems after - but they also were getting their shots.
Can't say what was bothering him, but no more of that stuff for my babies.

A squirrel was leaving fleas on the balcony that got on both kitties. I found an all natural flea collar that works and smells good. Nothing toxic, no allergic reactions to the collar. And no fleas anywhere.


Regirock flea and tick collars - 2 for about $24, lasts for months
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What are the options?

Frontline and Advantix work.

My ex tried garlic pills and all other sorts of holistic remedies. None worked.

If you don't want your pets to be a flea/tick factory or have a better remedy, I'd love to hear it.

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Every time I give my cat her flea medication, she has really bad anxiety for around 12 hours. Runs around jumping off everything like crazy. Thankfully she doesn't show any of the bad side effects listed.
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In some parts of the county no natural treatment will work against the violent flea hordes. Keeping your cat in and spreading a couple of tons of diatomaceous earth in your crawl space after setting of a small tactical nuke in the yard might make a dent in those little bastards, but I doubt it.
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What are the options?

Frontline and Advantix work.

My ex tried garlic pills and all other sorts of holistic remedies. None worked.

If you want your pets to be a flea/tick factory or have a better remedy, I'd love to hear it.
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Be careful giving them garlic, too much can kill your dog or cat. It breaks down their red blood cells and causes anemia.
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DO NOT USE GARLIC or it's OIL ON Cats or Dogs!!!!

A Small Amount of Garlic Can Be Toxic

Many people consider garlic to be a holistic remedy in the prevention of heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, warding off fleas and even certain types of cancer.

These potential medicinal benefits, however, are not effective for our pets. In fact, garlic is extremely toxic to dogs and cats and the consumption of even a small amount can lead to severe poisoning and, if not treated in time, death.

Why is Garlic Toxic to Pets?

Garlic is classified as a species of the Allium family. Other species in the Allium family include onions, shallots, leeks, chives and rakkyo (otherwise known as the Chinese onion).

If you suspect your dog or cat has ingested garlic, you should contact your veterinarian immediately.
 Quoting: Michael.


THIS IS MODERN DAY DISINFO
started, I suspect, by the Big Pharmaceutical companies who make the expensive flea chemicals.

An awesome book on pet health I got back in the 80's written by top veterinarian Dr Pitcairn, recommended giving Garlic for flea control and other things.
I have given my cats garlic along with Vit C to combat sinus infections and also given it to them as a dewormer and it works great WITH NO ILL AFFECTS,
which obviously the same can not be said for the toxic pharmaceutical chemicals ppl so unthinkingly douse their pets with.
I have been using garlic on my pets FOR YEARS with no ill effects.
The Garlic scare is meant to herd you into using the expensive chemicals instead.
Don't fall for it.


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Treating Res for liver now and one of the things i wondered was what role the flea chems played? His people are the sort to bathe and have every dog thing? But I am going to find out. I am pretty stretched out this week with all the exra costs. Hard week for me, but they have and thats the priority.
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What are the options?

Frontline and Advantix work.

My ex tried garlic pills and all other sorts of holistic remedies. None worked.

If you want your pets to be a flea/tick factory or have a better remedy, I'd love to hear it.
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Be careful giving them garlic, too much can kill your dog or cat. It breaks down their red blood cells and causes anemia.
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It would take a huge amount given over prolonged periods of time to cause that. Heck, you can even overdose on Water if you drink too much too quick !

I've had good results using it medicinally on my cats, meaning, I give it to them once or twice to reach the desired affect and then that's it.
I don't feed it to them regularly as part of their normal diet.
Cats and dogs who have worms will be naturally attracted to wild onions and garlic and chew on it,
so they intuitively know what to do it seems.


The Cat nip plant is a member of the mint family and mint plants are natural insect deterrents.
Cats will roll in a patch of catnip not only because the smell is intoxicating to them but the oils of the plant transferred to their fur are protective :-)
Animals are alot smarter than humans give them credit for.


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Every time I give my cat her flea medication, she has really bad anxiety for around 12 hours. Runs around jumping off everything like crazy. Thankfully she doesn't show any of the bad side effects listed.
 Quoting: DNCSwampMonster


It accumulatively poisons their liver.
Giving her Vit C will help flush out the residues.
Milk thistle herb is another good one for helping cats detox.

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my stallion got dosed and it totally fucked him up permently
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Cbd for awhile and then add detox and nerve foods. Clean and soothe/heal

my horses were given equioxx with out me knowing by my mother

it supposedly was a pain manegment drug because they are over 20
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Thats another deal where the natural foods that help and protect liver/kidneys really help. We have a lot of older. Bought a cbd hemp oil processor for them

DO NOT USE GARLIC or it's OIL ON Cats or Dogs!!!!

A Small Amount of Garlic Can Be Toxic

Many people consider garlic to be a holistic remedy in the prevention of heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, warding off fleas and even certain types of cancer.

These potential medicinal benefits, however, are not effective for our pets. In fact, garlic is extremely toxic to dogs and cats and the consumption of even a small amount can lead to severe poisoning and, if not treated in time, death.

Why is Garlic Toxic to Pets?

Garlic is classified as a species of the Allium family. Other species in the Allium family include onions, shallots, leeks, chives and rakkyo (otherwise known as the Chinese onion).

If you suspect your dog or cat has ingested garlic, you should contact your veterinarian immediately.
 Quoting: Michael.


Repost because its true....but they still benefit from the health foods they eat.

So is coconut oil okay? Says to warm it up and rub it on the skin. I have tons of that. My dog and cat hate sprays and bathes.
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Like candied pup? Wouldn't every speck 9f dirt stick?

Blue Dawn dish soap kills fleas on contact.
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Absolutely and saves lives
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

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Every time I give my cat her flea medication, she has really bad anxiety for around 12 hours. Runs around jumping off everything like crazy. Thankfully she doesn't show any of the bad side effects listed.
 Quoting: DNCSwampMonster


It accumulatively poisons their liver.
Giving her Vit C will help flush out the residues.
Milk thistle herb is another good one for helping cats detox.

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 Quoting: SkyTiger


Dogs make thier owm vit c.....be careful giving them extra? I have added small amounts when they were sick but don't use vit c in camines.
Test for allergy first with a couple drops, but the medicinal mushrooms, reishi, cordyceps, turkey tail are really good for organs and what we've used 20 years. We make that too.
Essiac you buy and brew yourself helps keep it going out too, not just loose and circulating
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

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I have outdoor dogs and cats and use a generic non-isoxazoline product called Advecta. Inexpensive and very effective.


Advecta 3 is both tick and flea, which I give the dogs.

Advecta 2 is only flea which is safe for cats. I split doses of Advecta 2 for the cats giving each just .8 ml. One 55 lb dog dose can be split in five cat doses.
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We use the same

We have mutant fleas in the south.
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We’ve been using a natural, garlic-based product from our vet for 8 years and have NEVER had a flea or tick problem.

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I have outdoor dogs and cats and use a generic non-isoxazoline product called Advecta. Inexpensive and very effective.


Advecta 3 is both tick and flea, which I give the dogs.

Advecta 2 is only flea which is safe for cats. I split doses of Advecta 2 for the cats giving each just .8 ml. One 55 lb dog dose can be split in five cat doses.
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We use the same

We have mutant fleas in the south.
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Somebody in this thread explained what really bad flea areas are like. This house wouldn't be livable if I wasn't careful to treat the animals with effective flea and tick meds.
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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

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My dog has had seizures regularly since the first time I used flea medication on him. I don't use it anymore, but he appears to have permanent neurological damage from just one or two applications of the stuff.

He's down to one episode every 2 or 3 months, but still, it's a disturbing thing to witness.
 Quoting: Farlander


Exact same thing happened to my Jack Russell Terrier, Peanut. My female ended up having sever neurological issues also (we ultimately had to put her to sleep). Saddest day ever and now even more sad because I know the probable cause.

What did they have in common?

Frontline, heartguard, and all those vaccines.

My new jack russell puppy (9 months) isn't on any flea medicine but we bathe her once a week and check for fleas daily. It works.

We did the dawn once as a flea treatment and it ruined her coat (plus it's full of chemicals also). Normal , natural oatmeal dog shampoo from the store does the same thing.

I had to recondotion her coat with homemade conditioner after the Dawn fiasco - 1/4 cup ground oats, 2T coconut oil, 1T honey, 1/4c warm water.

Leave on for a few minutes after shampooing.

Spray dogs every 3-7 days with Braggs organic apple cider vinegar mixed with half water (or add to their drinking water). Fleas hate it.

The pit gets diatomaceous earth dusting because she doesn't sleep in our bed. &#128518; It doesn't rid adult fleas but rather the larvae from what I understand.
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we have 4 dogs that we use Nexgard on. Its VERY expensive and needs to be reused every 3 weeks about. It is a godsend in that it really keeps the fleas and ticks off. Our 4 yr old mini poodle has been getting seizures which started this year and has had maybe 5-7 episodes thus far.

I knew there would be repercussions for giving my animals a drug that stays in the body for weeks and kills insects that bite them. How does that effect the dogs in the long run.

Home remedies are kinda shit to be honest. The ticks were horrendous this year and seed ticks are literally impossible to deal with. So I dont know what the options are really guys.

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we have 4 dogs that we use Nexgard on. Its VERY expensive and needs to be reused every 3 weeks about. It is a godsend in that it really keeps the fleas and ticks off. Our 4 yr old mini poodle has been getting seizures which started this year and has had maybe 5-7 episodes thus far.

I knew there would be repercussions for giving my animals a drug that stays in the body for weeks and kills insects that bite them. How does that effect the dogs in the long run.

Home remedies are kinda shit to be honest. The ticks were horrendous this year and seed ticks are literally impossible to deal with. So I dont know what the options are really guys.
 Quoting: Cebeij


I changed from a product containing Fipronil to another that instead had Imidacloprid. No ill effects on either cats or dogs, and extremely effective on fleas. Cheap, too. Advecta 2 for cats, and Advecta 3 for dogs.
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most insecticides are part of the same family of
Chemical Compounds as Military Chemical Nerve Agents.
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My dog has taken Nexgard for 3 months now with no adverse effects.He can not tolerate a collar or advantex due to skin allergies.My place is full of ticks and deer even though I spray.Is it bad for all dogs? The article did not say.
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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

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eight month flea collar absolutely works on my cats and over an eight month period it is cheaper than advantage or frontline both of which seem to be less effective that before when i used it.

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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

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Not garlic. It's part of the onion family.
Which is potentially more dangerous than chocolate to dog's.

And not tea tree when it comes to pure natural oils which is also deadly in some of its forms.

Not trying to be a downer, I just love animals and don't want anyone to make a mistake and harm their best furry buddies
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FDA: Flea and Tick medications linked to neurological problems in Dogs and Cats


Dogs and Cats using Bravecto, Nexgard and Simparica, have experienced adverse events such as muscle tremors, ataxia and seizures, the FDA says.

So what do they do about it?

They issue a new label.

The FDA is working with manufacturers of isoxazoline products to include new label information on these issues.

If you must give one of these products to your pet, please watch them closely and call the vet if you notice any adverse side effects.


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don't let em near camel rooters and you will not get fleas n ticks.
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Some have had success with garlic, but we seem to be having a lot of controversy over whether or not it's safe to give your dog garlic.

After a quick review, I would recommend that we do not use garlic. It seems to be ok for some dogs, but not knowing the proper dosage or if your dog has a history of hemolytic anemia, garlic could cause serious problems.

If you have a pet that has a history of hemolytic anemia, it would be safest to avoid using garlic in any form.

Do not give garlic to cats.
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Some have had success with garlic, but we seem to be having a lot of controversy over whether or not it's safe to give your dog garlic.

After a quick review, I would recommend that we do not use garlic. It seems to be ok for some dogs, but not knowing the proper dosage or if your dog has a history of hemolytic anemia, garlic could cause serious problems.

If you have a pet that has a history of hemolytic anemia, it would be safest to avoid using garlic in any form.

Do not give garlic to cats.
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I think it's safer to research EVERY natural remedy before using it.

At the end of the day, you can't trust anything on the internet.

If anything is potentially dangerous to certain dogs then you should assume it's dangerous to all.

It's okay telling people something is good and then retracting later, but the damage could already be done.

Research before posting.

I sound like a dick I know.

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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

[link to www.wikihow.com (secure)]
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Not only is garlic poisonous to cats but...

Vinegar and oil? If you suggest "marinating" our cats as a solution be aware that only accidentally dousing your cat with olive oil and kitchen spices will land you in serious trouble.

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My 13 year old cat has been healthy her entire life until now. Pulled a full tick off her after she started having trouble eating and dropping food everywhere. She can't stick her tongue out to clean herself. A week later and now her hair is falling out. Took her to the vet and they gave her some antibiotic shot. She's losing weight and I'm afraid we're going to lose her.

Ticks are horrible here and have always used frontline with no problems on multiple animals.
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