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Oregon has many 2A supporters.

What happened was that the legislation causing this fiasco was poorly written and rammed through w/ a very slim majority. We all (2A supporters) fought it as hard as we could.

We poured tons of money into lawyers (it's currently working its way through to Oregon's Supreme Court, and possibly, on to the SCOTUS). We wrote snail-mail letters. We emailed...no, spammed our Senators, State Reprentatives, Councilmen, and anybody who would listen to us about this insanity.

You'd be shocked at how many people were wholly ignorant of the legislation prior to voting on it, because it was obfuscated. Many sheriff's departments and police agencies (including Oregon State Police) were unaware of the power and unconstitutionality of the law they managed to pass.

Oregon, by area, is mostly law-abiding, red, Republican, God-fearing and pro-gun. Portland, Eugene (colleges) ans Salem (state seat) has become saturated w/ far-left Democrat/liberal people who don't know the first thing about firearms, and have been conditioned/taught to fear them and believe that gun=bad.

Look, no matter how you slice it, ERPO/Red Flag 'laws' are egregious violations of basic civil rights, unconstitutional, and eventually will be overturned.

In the meantime:

If you're a regular, law-respecting pro-2A guy/gal who values firearm culture, make sure your ducks are in a row.

1). Many states have enacted laws now requiring guns to be locked up when not in direct, immediate control of a responsible adult. While I personally believe it ought to be purely up to free Americans to decide how best to secure their own firearms, the fact is that it's absolutely still possible to have a firearm at the ready for defense of one's home. RFID-based, rapid deployment pistol safes (rifles, too) are affordable. Consider carrying either openly or concealed at home. You don't need a concealed carry/handgun permit to carry concealed in your own home or on your own property. The safest place a handgun can be is in a holster, in direct control of a responsible adult.

2). I would personally refrain from posting pictures of your firearms on social media.

3). If you're a pro-2A guy/gal, always remember that you're representing ALL gunners w/ your gun-related actions. An armed society is a polite society.
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it's fun watching you liberals play conservative
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WTH are you talking about? I hope you are not calling Noble a libtard??

..... cause that just makes you completely retarded.
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it's fun watching you liberals play conservative
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It's ok. That's why she hates you...

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She hates him because his body cannot produce testosterone.
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I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.

itspiderman

That is all for now. Stay frosty.

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Many strategies are being used and implemented simultaneously - as the New World Order moves America towards disarming the citizens and banning firearms.

The New World Order is using many and various "professionals", false flag after false flag, predictive programming, lying Mainstream media and many other tactics simultaneously to achieve it's goals.

This is spiritual warfare.

Study the strategies used by Hitler to disarm citizens. The same strategies are being implemented by the New World order today in America.
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They destroyed the 1st , 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights of this man all at once.
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I really wonder if there's a questionnaire for new cops. If one does such exist and there's a question, "What is the U.S. Constitution?". Cops who answer correctly are summarily dismissed, and cops who are clueless or against our Constitution are promptly given their shiny new badge and gun.
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Municipal Police Departments are not obligated to follow and/or protect the Constitution. Only the Office of the Sheriff is. So many people do not know this.
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As the Sheriff is an elected office. The Chief of Police is not, he's an employee.
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They destroyed the 1st , 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights of this man all at once.
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I really wonder if there's a questionnaire for new cops. If one does such exist and there's a question, "What is the U.S. Constitution?". Cops who answer correctly are summarily dismissed, and cops who are clueless or against our Constitution are promptly given their shiny new badge and gun.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Municipal Police Departments are not obligated to follow and/or protect the Constitution. Only the Office of the Sheriff is. So many people do not know this.
 Quoting: Noble Six


As the Sheriff is an elected office. The Chief of Police is not, he's an employee.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


appointed officials also take the oath.

Every person elected, or appointed, to any office of profit or trust, under this Constitution, or under the Laws, made pursuant thereto, shall, before he enters upon the duties of such office, take and subscribe the following oath, or affirmation: I, .........., do swear, (or affirm, as the case may be,) that I will support the Constitution of the United States; and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of Maryland, and support the Constitution and Laws thereof; and that I will, to the best of my skill and judgment, diligently and faithfully, without partiality or prejudice, execute the office of .........., according to the Constitution and Laws of this State, (and, if a Governor, Senator, Member of the House of Delegates, or Judge,) that I will not directly or indirectly, receive the profits or any part of the profits of any other office during the term of my acting as ...........

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I hope they don't make that mistake with me. I'm rather fond of my collection. It's taken 40 years to put together and nobody is going to confiscate it on "say so". This is so unAmerican and unconstitutional I don't see why it hasn't been struck down already?
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it's fun watching you liberals play conservative
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WTH are you talking about? I hope you are not calling Noble a libtard??

..... cause that just makes you completely retarded.
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I'm crazy but I'm not that fucking crazy!
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This is all I have to say on this subject.


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violence was and is not natural part of human being...

it was imported in ....
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If that's not a Hyuuuuuge red commie flag that the government isn't to be trusted then idk what is.
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it's fun watching you liberals play conservative
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It's ok. That's why she hates you...

epiclol
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She hates him because his body cannot produce testosterone.
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Body shaming ain't cool dog.
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I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.

itspiderman

That is all for now. Stay frosty.

resist
 Quoting: Noble Six


Ok , maybe I’m wrong here but let me know please......I don’t think the us constitution has anything in it that requires permission to own and carry a weapon. WE LET THIS HAPPEN AND ARE THE ONLY THING THAT can STOP IT !
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I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.

itspiderman

That is all for now. Stay frosty.

resist
 Quoting: Noble Six


Ok , maybe I’m wrong here but let me know please......I don’t think the us constitution has anything in it that requires permission to own and carry a weapon. WE LET THIS HAPPEN AND ARE THE ONLY THING THAT can STOP IT !
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If he was harmless he would've given them the gun and then gotten it back through due legal process. With extra money for his pain and suffering if the request was without cause.Lawyers are better than bullets.


The dangers of guns vs. everything else really needs some hard data. While the old wheezing vietnam veteran who was so ready for service they sent him to somewhere that was not vietnam and only let him handle a rifle once in his military career can still have his huge gun falling out of his pants on the ball field at the elementary school as he shuffles around muttering about Masons always having things lined up east to west, but we have to keep dispensaries a thousand feet away from the kids?
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violence was and is not natural part of human being...

it was imported in ....
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It's going to get more violent. It WILL come to a head where war is the only answer. It sucks but I'm not hiding from that fact either. I'm going to fight in the mother fucker.
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Peaceful solutions and passive resistance is going to fuck you up.
I lost my apathy.
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Peaceful solutions and passive resistance is going to fuck you up.
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It already did. That's why they teach that Gandhi shit in school!
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Ya know, I was thinking the other day about doing all the paperwork and getting a PTP, and a CCW.
And then I see this shit.
That poor guy in Md. did nothing wrong aside of pissing off some family member, and now he's toes up.
We all like to think about how bad-ass we are and how we'll go down swinging, but in all reality, the majority of the recent gun buyers all have paper trails as long as your arm, and will cave just like the maroons in Conn, after Sandy Hook.
There's a level of commitment that each of us have to have to stave this off.
Those of us who have been prepping for a long time understand this.
That's we most of us aren't really social, we hang with our own, and don't put ourselves in position to be hung out to dry by "laws" like this.
But, the old advice still hangs together for me.
Keep your business yours, and stay the fuck off the radar.
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You do understand that the minimum wait time on having your firearms taken under the Red Flag Laws are one year, right?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Just a year? Great reason to take up bow hunting.

What are we supposed to do about all these senile old people with guns, anyway. The three people I know who have guns here are:

1. one of Mcnamara's morons, who saw combat in 'nam, thinks he sees ghosts and that God talks to him. Major hobby is taking candid pictures of people through their windows at night.

2. Previously referenced gun dribbling guy who went somewhere that was not 'nam. After being sorted out from the rest of his platoon. His heart disease is so bad he sounds like a freight train coming down the hall.

3. Woman who tells people here inpatient medication adjustment visits are exciting trips to disaster sites where she plays important roles while folks huddle in tents. I want to have some of her inpatient meds, they seem to generate stuff as exciting as the plot of The Spoilers

Do you want these senile people wandering around near an elementary school with firearms?
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it's fun watching you liberals play conservative
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WTH are you talking about? I hope you are not calling Noble a libtard??

..... cause that just makes you completely retarded.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


The One That Is Hated By A Lady wasn't targeting me openly, but rather everyone that responded, including me. Hence, that makes this person a complete retard...

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They destroyed the 1st , 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights of this man all at once.
 Quoting: burneracct


I really wonder if there's a questionnaire for new cops. If one does such exist and there's a question, "What is the U.S. Constitution?". Cops who answer correctly are summarily dismissed, and cops who are clueless or against our Constitution are promptly given their shiny new badge and gun.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Municipal Police Departments are not obligated to follow and/or protect the Constitution. Only the Office of the Sheriff is. So many people do not know this.
 Quoting: Noble Six


As the Sheriff is an elected office. The Chief of Police is not, he's an employee.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Merci for the clarification of what I stated, Lady Jane. The difference is in being duly elected versus a hired employee.
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“Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi

"Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass


"The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge

"Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05

"Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off."

"These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo

"Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men."

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violence was and is not natural part of human being...

it was imported in ....
 Quoting: 7.X.LepsihoLog


It's going to get more violent. It WILL come to a head where war is the only answer. It sucks but I'm not hiding from that fact either. I'm going to fight in the mother fucker.
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what are you afraid of?...

and, if on planet earth is released...do not know...100 mill of those aliens from movie alien you can do zack sith!...
not even a rat in a maze....
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In theory the violation of due process gives you and anyone else the right to use force to defend your rights. Not to mention they have no authority whatsoever to take your guns under any circumstances. They might be able to find you guilty of a crime, but not take your guns.

The problem is you can't do it alone and if you try to set up your own militia or whatever you have to wade through 150 cops, 300 shills, and another 300 useless wastes of time to find one person worth working with and then neither of you really knows what you are doing.
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Peaceful solutions and passive resistance is going to fuck you up.
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TRUE, but usually after initial conflict....THERE’S a chance for PEACEFUL NEGOTIATIONS
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Peaceful solutions and passive resistance is going to fuck you up.
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


It already did. That's why they teach that Gandhi shit in school!
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Yet, Gandhi was a man of violence. He waged it when it had to be waged.
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In theory the violation of due process gives you and anyone else the right to use force to defend your rights. Not to mention they have no authority whatsoever to take your guns under any circumstances. They might be able to find you guilty of a crime, but not take your guns.

The problem is you can't do it alone and if you try to set up your own militia or whatever you have to wade through 150 cops, 300 shills, and another 300 useless wastes of time to find one person worth working with and then neither of you really knows what you are doing.
 Quoting: SpringLeak


EXACTLY
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If he was harmless he would've given them the gun and then gotten it back through due legal process. With extra money for his pain and suffering if the request was without cause.Lawyers are better than bullets.


The dangers of guns vs. everything else really needs some hard data. While the old wheezing vietnam veteran who was so ready for service they sent him to somewhere that was not vietnam and only let him handle a rifle once in his military career can still have his huge gun falling out of his pants on the ball field at the elementary school as he shuffles around muttering about Masons always having things lined up east to west, but we have to keep dispensaries a thousand feet away from the kids?
 Quoting: Asmodée


through due legal process?

perhaps you dont realize innocent until proven guilty
perhaps you dont realize the right to life liberty and property

perhaps you dont realize this was illegal seizure without probable cause
perhaps you dont realize right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
perhaps you dont realize the right to face your accuser.

perhaps you dont have any clue about legal due process at all.
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I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.

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That is all for now. Stay frosty.

resist
 Quoting: Noble Six


Every single gun owner needs to file a compliant on every single elected servant who is in favor of this including the police officers who are willing to enforce it.

Clog the system up with thousands upon thousands of filings aimed at them until the illegal statute collapses undee it's own weight.
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