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Rabbi Kaduri Predicted 40 Years Ago: Israel Elections But No Government will bring moshiach....This is happening right now in Israel

 
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We are "graffed INTO Israel".
We do NOT replace them.
Dispensationalism is wrong.
There isn't an argument that I haven't refuted WITH scripture.

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I expected a little more enlightenment but I guess “send” is a start...lol...glad your friend could show up he seems a little more chatty and he is always good for a psalms verse...lol...don’t be such a stranger...we are besties in the end but that is a secret not yet revealed to you .. lol...I can only see your posts on my threads so if you want me to see something you will have to post it on my thread....I see your posts going up but I can’t see them because you have me on your foes list....imagine that Judah having Joseph on his foes list...lol....there is nothing new under the sun that which has been will be again.


S.o.t.l if you didn’t leave me red karma send me a psalm verse in my karma.....red or green doesn’t matter to me...just to peak my curiosity on assuming it was you....lol
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Can't post been banned.
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Waterman, please stop paying my dues for GLP. I no longer desire to be part of an organization that can manipulate our thoughts or dictate what is said out of the accordance with their will.

I hope you get this post. I ask the same thing yesterday on your E-mail and it didn't go through to you. Thank you.
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moshiach = putin
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Ehhh...no:

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Mashiach [ben David] did open the BOOK of 7 Seals:
[link to disk.yandex.ru (secure)] - the pdf file of 25 pgs illustrated with photos and scemas.
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Mashiac putin ben Putin
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P u t I n ben Putin
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Is that the official opinion from the book of gentilejihad?
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Lol. Op thinks there is more than 1 Messiah.
There's. A. H0le. In. The. Sky.
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Lol. Op thinks there is more than 1 Messiah.
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Messiah simply means “anointed” and the scriptures tell us God is going to send 2 anointed/witnesses in the end times so yes I believe there is more than one anointed.

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Lol. Op thinks there is more than 1 Messiah.
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Messiah simply means “anointed” and the scriptures tell us God is going to send 2 anointed/witnesses in the end times so yes I believe there is more than one anointed.
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Zechariah 4:12 Before he could reply I asked again, “What are these two extensions of the olive trees, which are emptying out the golden oil through the two golden pipes?” 4:13 He replied, “Don’t you know what these are?” And I said, “No, sir.” 4:14 So he said, “These are the two anointed ones who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”

The Word stands with you Waterman

the 2 anointed ones

Blessings
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Lol. Op thinks there is more than 1 Messiah.
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Messiah simply means “anointed” and the scriptures tell us God is going to send 2 anointed/witnesses in the end times so yes I believe there is more than one anointed.
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Waterman, has it ever crossed your mind that it's only one Messiah, but carries two functions sequentially, first as a God's messenger and after that of a savior? So a third coming if you will and now being the second one.

It's seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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Jesus has a simple message

Matthew 5:2-12 - Then he began to teach them by saying:

3. "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.

4. "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

5. "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

6. "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.

7. "Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

8. "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

9. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.

10. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.

11. "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things about you falsely on account of me.

12. Rejoice and be glad because your reward is great in heaven, for they persecuted the prophets before you in the same way.


To be born again with a change in will

poor in spirit - poor in self

to hunger and thirst for righteousness


As you use Bible knowledge based on study what does it gain if you are swimming in the only soul understanding you have ever been given

When you look at this world the way Jesus Christ looks at it do you think He sees many souls burning with a hunger and thirst for righteousness

As you attempt to attack each other with knowledge you are far from wisdom

Knowledge is based on soul study of any subject

The study of the living God is based on divine intervention

Repent of sin to gain pure water

when clean drink more pure water

to grow drink more pure water

Confession repentance is a life of sinning and disobedience

Confession repentance brings you to lukewarm water

You gain hot water in repentance and cold water in disobedience to that which is given from heaven

Revelation 1:8 - New English Translation (2005)
8. "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God the one who is, and who was, and who is still to come the All-Powerful!

The matter of the things of God are given

the one who was - Father God

the one who is - Jesus Christ

the one still to come - man-child/2 witnesses

The understanding of the man-child/2 witnesses is deep water

Gaining His will is the subject of each day

The narrow way is a precious prize with great value

Few be that find it - this world has a church in name only
Speaking about the name of Jesus but not knowing the power of heaven

To be born again is a slogan filled with sin and disobedience

1 Peter 4:1 - New English Translation (2005)
1. So, since Christ suffered in the flesh, you also arm yourselves with the same attitude, because the one who has suffered in the flesh has finished with sin,

the one who has suffered in the flesh has finished with sin

When is the last time you ever heard any soul say that he/she is finished with sin ?

You are seeking to walk with a Holy God in God's last judgment all died save 8 souls

The narrow way and few find it - pray over those few words

Satan speaks a easier way using the blood of the Lamb as his tool to pull you into a fill good life - full of sin but knowing you are going to heaven - it is a lie that what you do does not matter to The Holy Father and Jesus Christ - your surrendered life to His holy way or you foolish life style filled with disobedience but confession of being a sinner

Sinners do not walk in Jesus Christ

1 John 1:5-7 - New English Translation (2005)
5. Now this is the gospel message we have heard from him and announce to you: God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all. 6. If we say we have fellowship with him and yet keep on walking in the darkness, we are lying and not practicing the truth. 7. But if we walk in the light as he himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

It is the core issue of your own on going disobedience that Satan has you right in the palm of his hand

A soul ready to find His ways and walk in His ways

As you speak as a fool before a Holy God that seeks one ready to die to the flesh to find life

Blessings
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The branch:
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The whole bible is types and shadows of stories describing these two anointed. One the king and the other the high priest. How anticlimactic it will be if the one anointed becomes both anointed and eternally embarrassing for the other anointed sitting on the left of Jesus when he did less than all the other servants of God.. even John the Baptist/second Elijah was at least from Levi. Now if one anointed was the earthly king for the duration of the millennium and the other anointed was the earthly high priest for the duration of the millennium then who could say the left and right of Jesus wasn’t fair.

God isn’t going to give one anointed the highest blessing of the 12 sons and the other anointed that all the stories were building up to the lowest gad blessing....lol..the 2 blessings are Judah and Joseph.

The 1st born Judah blessing going to Judah/Adam and the 2nd born Joseph blessing going to the second born feminine/Joseph/Eve...all you have to do is look and see who the 1st born and 2 Nd born are Adam/Eve then look at the 12 blessings and see what the firstborn gets which is the Judah blessing and see what the 2 Nd born gets which is the Joseph blessing

The firstborn spiritual masculine can’t be the 2nd born spiritual feminine that is why there are 2 anointed and not just one. That’s why the Judah blessing is the sceptre/kingship and the second born blessing is the birthright which will be used to inherit the priesthood.

Joseph and Judah

leftrightkingpri
 Quoting: waterman

According to (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) that is exactly what God intents to do. To give both offices to one man.

As he commands we must conform to the image of his Son (Rom.8:29KJV). So now that Jesus has resurrected. He performs the duty of both offices.

Therefore, we should obey the scriptures (Rom.8:29KJV). Rather than what traditions tells us. Thus the prince of/in Israel is depicted as the (NASA) ruler/leader/prince of the nation. And therefore it his duties of both offices as it depicts in the scripture. There is no strong bases as to whether the one anointed (witness) of (Rev.11KJV) is even setting on a throne, with the Lord of glory twixt/among the two. These verses may be misinterpreted by those who profess scriptural meanings. Time will tell I can wait can you?
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The first mistake you are making is you are trying to apply the romans covenant to the jues and earth dwellers during the millennium. Romans through Philemon those 13 books are a covenant to the church. The millennium is a whole different dispensation/covenant where the law is reinstated we see this with feast days observation being reinstated and animal sacrifice. So when you don’t even know what covenant you are under I can understand your confusion of what your position will be during the davidic/levitic kingdom on earth during the millennium.

As far as the prince in Ezekiel 44/46 there are 2 prince because Judah is a prince of Israel just as Joseph is a prince of Israel. So the way you tell which prince is being spoken about is to look at what office they are operating in. If it is the kingly office then it is David...if it is the priestly duties then it is Joseph. Very simple to understand if you know what dispensation you are in, who holds what blessing/inheritance, and know the rules of a davidic/levitic kingdom(separation of the kingship and the priesthood). A firstborn can’t understand their inheritance is the kingship/sceptre and the younger brother/2nd born gets the birthright. Until you understand who gets what blessing/inheritance you will never be able to unlock the scriptures....you will just look for ways to give one anointed both position because you can’t get past the 2nd born getting the birthright so when you seek to have the 1st born sceptre blessing and the second born birthright blessing suddenly the other anointed has no purpose and just fades away never to be heard from again...lol..wouldn’t that be a sad story ending....fortunately it doesn’t end that way. The 1st born gets the Judah/sceptre/kingship and the 2nd born gets the Joseph/birthright which he will use to be high priest on earth for the duration of the millennium.
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All scripture is the inspiring Word of God (2 Tim.3:16KJV). Whoever it is addressed to has no bearing as whether God's Word intended to mean what it didn't.

Sorry to differ with you but your interpreters and Scholars already determined the prince in/of Israel (Ezek.44:3KJV and 46:2KJV) are one of the same man. The same (NASA) leader, prince, ruler) of the same character.

A prince is not the leader of the nation or of the royalty of the office of a prince if he be only a priest. A priest is of the priesthood; and a prince is of the royal ruler-ship/leader/and the (NASA)(king/president), other meanings for the word (NASA) within and of a nation. A king or president but never a priest is addressed in this manner.

I am finished going over this same material with you constantly. Face it you are not an anointed one. You follow the opinion and interpretations of those who proclaim themselves correct. But they seldom line-up with the Word of God. Follow them if you must. But remember, followers of men are not the rulers of nations. Just as all readers are not leaders, but all leaders are readers.
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Meant to say (NASI) title not (NASA) in the above posts.
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According to (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) that is exactly what God intents to do. To give both offices to one man.

As he commands we must conform to the image of his Son (Rom.8:29KJV). So now that Jesus has resurrected. He performs the duty of both offices.

Therefore, we should obey the scriptures (Rom.8:29KJV). Rather than what traditions tells us. Thus the prince of/in Israel is depicted as the (NASA) ruler/leader/prince of the nation. And therefore it his duties of both offices as it depicts in the scripture. There is no strong bases as to whether the one anointed (witness) of (Rev.11KJV) is even setting on a throne, with the Lord of glory twixt/among the two. These verses may be misinterpreted by those who profess scriptural meanings. Time will tell I can wait can you?
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The first mistake you are making is you are trying to apply the romans covenant to the jues and earth dwellers during the millennium. Romans through Philemon those 13 books are a covenant to the church. The millennium is a whole different dispensation/covenant where the law is reinstated we see this with feast days observation being reinstated and animal sacrifice. So when you don’t even know what covenant you are under I can understand your confusion of what your position will be during the davidic/levitic kingdom on earth during the millennium.

As far as the prince in Ezekiel 44/46 there are 2 prince because Judah is a prince of Israel just as Joseph is a prince of Israel. So the way you tell which prince is being spoken about is to look at what office they are operating in. If it is the kingly office then it is David...if it is the priestly duties then it is Joseph. Very simple to understand if you know what dispensation you are in, who holds what blessing/inheritance, and know the rules of a davidic/levitic kingdom(separation of the kingship and the priesthood). A firstborn can’t understand their inheritance is the kingship/sceptre and the younger brother/2nd born gets the birthright. Until you understand who gets what blessing/inheritance you will never be able to unlock the scriptures....you will just look for ways to give one anointed both position because you can’t get past the 2nd born getting the birthright so when you seek to have the 1st born sceptre blessing and the second born birthright blessing suddenly the other anointed has no purpose and just fades away never to be heard from again...lol..wouldn’t that be a sad story ending....fortunately it doesn’t end that way. The 1st born gets the Judah/sceptre/kingship and the 2nd born gets the Joseph/birthright which he will use to be high priest on earth for the duration of the millennium.
 Quoting: waterman


All scripture is the inspiring Word of God (2 Tim.3:16KJV). Whoever it is addressed to has no bearing as whether God's Word intended to mean what it didn't.

Sorry to differ with you but your interpreters and Scholars already determined the prince in/of Israel (Ezek.44:3KJV and 46:2KJV) are one of the same man. The same (NASA) leader, prince, ruler) of the same character.

A prince is not the leader of the nation or of the royalty of the office of a prince if he be only a priest. A priest is of the priesthood; and a prince is of the royal ruler-ship/leader/and the (NASA)(king/president), other meanings for the word (NASA) within and of a nation. A king or president but never a priest is addressed in this manner.

I am finished going over this same material with you constantly. Face it you are not an anointed one. You follow the opinion and interpretations of those who proclaim themselves correct. But they seldom line-up with the Word of God. Follow them if you must. But remember, followers of men are not the rulers of nations. Just as all readers are not leaders, but all leaders are readers.
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Meant to say (NASI) title not (NASA) in the above posts.
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Waterman I am not trying to discouraging you as you posted me on my karma thread.

I am only seeking to give you insight of the operational ways of our God through the promises of his Word and not after the archaic practices of traditions.

For we are warned to be cautious about traditions for they make the Word ineffectual and powerless:

(Mark.7:12KJV) making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such things do you.

For we have the promises that within the order of God's example; Christ did come forth to brake the curse of the Law. And in so doing eradicating many laws and traditions commanded by certain laws no longer applicable. Thus, as the Word declares:

(Gal.3:13KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:


(Gal.3:14KJV) That the blessings of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Thus, in so doing the works of our Lord's sacrifice allowed us to emerge from the curse of the law and behold the eradication of many traditions originally ordained by certain commands through these law.

Now however we through Jesus Christ obedient sacrifice we are no longer under the wrongful powers of certain traditions of the laws therein implemented. Such traditions as dietary laws after Jesus sacrifice no longer had any force with believes. Thus God revealed these laws no longer applied telling Peter upon the roof what he declares clean is clean.

Jesus, further emphases that which goes into the mouth defiles not the man but that which comes out of the mouth is that which is evil.


Thus, other laws were made void through Jesus sacrifice. The curse against Adam no longer would be effectual. The laws of traditions were meant to be replaced by the justification through the works and offerings of Jesus Christ within a new concept. And thus the fulfillment of justifying both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood encompassed both offices in one man (Jesus Christ).

Therefore, thereafter God commanded that we conform into the Image of his Son. Not some traditional order ordained through traditional history formed beneath the curse of the law before that curse was broken. Thus such tradition is no longer effectual but Gods Word is now in effect:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn of many brethren.

There is the firstborn watermam, and Joseph is the second-born) who is the prince of/in Israel who is rightfully fulfilling both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood in (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) in the millennial age.
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The first mistake you are making is you are trying to apply the romans covenant to the jues and earth dwellers during the millennium. Romans through Philemon those 13 books are a covenant to the church. The millennium is a whole different dispensation/covenant where the law is reinstated we see this with feast days observation being reinstated and animal sacrifice. So when you don’t even know what covenant you are under I can understand your confusion of what your position will be during the davidic/levitic kingdom on earth during the millennium.

As far as the prince in Ezekiel 44/46 there are 2 prince because Judah is a prince of Israel just as Joseph is a prince of Israel. So the way you tell which prince is being spoken about is to look at what office they are operating in. If it is the kingly office then it is David...if it is the priestly duties then it is Joseph. Very simple to understand if you know what dispensation you are in, who holds what blessing/inheritance, and know the rules of a davidic/levitic kingdom(separation of the kingship and the priesthood). A firstborn can’t understand their inheritance is the kingship/sceptre and the younger brother/2nd born gets the birthright. Until you understand who gets what blessing/inheritance you will never be able to unlock the scriptures....you will just look for ways to give one anointed both position because you can’t get past the 2nd born getting the birthright so when you seek to have the 1st born sceptre blessing and the second born birthright blessing suddenly the other anointed has no purpose and just fades away never to be heard from again...lol..wouldn’t that be a sad story ending....fortunately it doesn’t end that way. The 1st born gets the Judah/sceptre/kingship and the 2nd born gets the Joseph/birthright which he will use to be high priest on earth for the duration of the millennium.
 Quoting: waterman


All scripture is the inspiring Word of God (2 Tim.3:16KJV). Whoever it is addressed to has no bearing as whether God's Word intended to mean what it didn't.

Sorry to differ with you but your interpreters and Scholars already determined the prince in/of Israel (Ezek.44:3KJV and 46:2KJV) are one of the same man. The same (NASA) leader, prince, ruler) of the same character.

A prince is not the leader of the nation or of the royalty of the office of a prince if he be only a priest. A priest is of the priesthood; and a prince is of the royal ruler-ship/leader/and the (NASA)(king/president), other meanings for the word (NASA) within and of a nation. A king or president but never a priest is addressed in this manner.

I am finished going over this same material with you constantly. Face it you are not an anointed one. You follow the opinion and interpretations of those who proclaim themselves correct. But they seldom line-up with the Word of God. Follow them if you must. But remember, followers of men are not the rulers of nations. Just as all readers are not leaders, but all leaders are readers.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Meant to say (NASI) title not (NASA) in the above posts.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Waterman I am not trying to discouraging you as you posted me on my karma thread.

I am only seeking to give you insight of the operational ways of our God through the promises of his Word and not after the archaic practices of traditions.

For we are warned to be cautious about traditions for they make the Word ineffectual and powerless:

(Mark.7:12KJV) making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such things do you.

For we have the promises that within the order of God's example; Christ did come forth to brake the curse of the Law. And in so doing eradicating many laws and traditions commanded by certain laws no longer applicable. Thus, as the Word declares:

(Gal.3:13KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:


(Gal.3:14KJV) That the blessings of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Thus, in so doing the works of our Lord's sacrifice allowed us to emerge from the curse of the law and behold the eradication of many traditions originally ordained by certain commands through these law.

Now however we through Jesus Christ obedient sacrifice we are no longer under the wrongful powers of certain traditions of the laws therein implemented. Such traditions as dietary laws after Jesus sacrifice no longer had any force with believes. Thus God revealed these laws no longer applied telling Peter upon the roof what he declares clean is clean.

Jesus, further emphases that which goes into the mouth defiles not the man but that which comes out of the mouth is that which is evil.


Thus, other laws were made void through Jesus sacrifice. The curse against Adam no longer would be effectual. The laws of traditions were meant to be replaced by the justification through the works and offerings of Jesus Christ within a new concept. And thus the fulfillment of justifying both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood encompassed both offices in one man (Jesus Christ).

Therefore, thereafter God commanded that we conform into the Image of his Son. Not some traditional order ordained through traditional history formed beneath the curse of the law before that curse was broken. Thus such tradition is no longer effectual but Gods Word is now in effect:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn of many brethren.

There is the firstborn watermam, and Joseph is the second-born) who is the prince of/in Israel who is rightfully fulfilling both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood in (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) in the millennial age.
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Notice Jesus is the “firstborn” of “many” brethren. What brethren is he the firstborn of? Jesus is the firstborn of those who are born again. Notice the millennial kingdom people won’t be conformed to the likeness of Jesus both king and priest until they see him after the millennium....they will be as he is when they see him.

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Adam is the firstborn of the earthly kingdom. Jesus is the firstborn of the born again heavenly kingdom. The 12 sons blessings are to be given to those those who dwell on earth. David receiving the firstborn Judah blessing the sceptre/kingship and the other anointed the second born Joseph blessing the birthright that 2 can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28. Being Jesus dwells in the higher kingdom of heaven he can combine the firstborn Judah blessing/Kinship and 2nd born Joseph blessing/birthright and be King and High Priest ruling from heaven during the millennium.



Notice in Jeremiah and Ezekiel the millennial kingdom people are following the law once again. The high priest is offering sacrifices and the people are observing the feast days etc. How and why are they following the law. They are following the law because the world will be like the garden of eden, the law will be for holiness and Satan will be bound so there won’t be temptation.



When will the law pass away? When heaven and earth pass away at the end of the millennium according to scripture so the law will be reinstated once the 2000 year age of grace through Jesus ends. So the millennial kingdom people will once again be following the law for holiness because they will be able to since Satan and his cohorts will be bound for 1000 years which removes temptation making it possible to follow the law for holiness.

twotimetwo



Matthew 5:18:


King James Bible
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



God made a covenant with the 1st born Adam and 2 Nd born Eve to have dominion and has to honor it or He would be known as a covenant breaker and He is not.

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There are 2 kingdoms the earthly and the heavenly. The lower kingdom earth will strive to be joined with the upper kingdom heaven. Once the millennium is over then Jesus will be the firstborn of all brethren. Until then he is the firstborn of those who are born again. The earthly kingdom is the testing ground to prepare those to become born again into the next kingdom.

The two anointed are on earth to prepare the people to be born again into the next kingdom. David having dominion over the kingship because he has the earthly firstborn blessing of the Judah sceptre and Joseph having dominion over the earthly priesthood because he has the earthly second born blessing of the birthright.

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just saying....have a good night.
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You didn't hurt my feelings.
Nothing you can say would do that.
Here's a challenge for you...
...ask a MOD if I left you "red".

I didn't.
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Ok if you say so...lol



It reminds me of a scene from cape fear...lol



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All scripture is the inspiring Word of God (2 Tim.3:16KJV). Whoever it is addressed to has no bearing as whether God's Word intended to mean what it didn't.

Sorry to differ with you but your interpreters and Scholars already determined the prince in/of Israel (Ezek.44:3KJV and 46:2KJV) are one of the same man. The same (NASA) leader, prince, ruler) of the same character.

A prince is not the leader of the nation or of the royalty of the office of a prince if he be only a priest. A priest is of the priesthood; and a prince is of the royal ruler-ship/leader/and the (NASA)(king/president), other meanings for the word (NASA) within and of a nation. A king or president but never a priest is addressed in this manner.

I am finished going over this same material with you constantly. Face it you are not an anointed one. You follow the opinion and interpretations of those who proclaim themselves correct. But they seldom line-up with the Word of God. Follow them if you must. But remember, followers of men are not the rulers of nations. Just as all readers are not leaders, but all leaders are readers.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Meant to say (NASI) title not (NASA) in the above posts.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Waterman I am not trying to discouraging you as you posted me on my karma thread.

I am only seeking to give you insight of the operational ways of our God through the promises of his Word and not after the archaic practices of traditions.

For we are warned to be cautious about traditions for they make the Word ineffectual and powerless:

(Mark.7:12KJV) making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such things do you.

For we have the promises that within the order of God's example; Christ did come forth to brake the curse of the Law. And in so doing eradicating many laws and traditions commanded by certain laws no longer applicable. Thus, as the Word declares:

(Gal.3:13KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:


(Gal.3:14KJV) That the blessings of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Thus, in so doing the works of our Lord's sacrifice allowed us to emerge from the curse of the law and behold the eradication of many traditions originally ordained by certain commands through these law.

Now however we through Jesus Christ obedient sacrifice we are no longer under the wrongful powers of certain traditions of the laws therein implemented. Such traditions as dietary laws after Jesus sacrifice no longer had any force with believes. Thus God revealed these laws no longer applied telling Peter upon the roof what he declares clean is clean.

Jesus, further emphases that which goes into the mouth defiles not the man but that which comes out of the mouth is that which is evil.


Thus, other laws were made void through Jesus sacrifice. The curse against Adam no longer would be effectual. The laws of traditions were meant to be replaced by the justification through the works and offerings of Jesus Christ within a new concept. And thus the fulfillment of justifying both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood encompassed both offices in one man (Jesus Christ).

Therefore, thereafter God commanded that we conform into the Image of his Son. Not some traditional order ordained through traditional history formed beneath the curse of the law before that curse was broken. Thus such tradition is no longer effectual but Gods Word is now in effect:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn of many brethren.

There is the firstborn watermam, and Joseph is the second-born) who is the prince of/in Israel who is rightfully fulfilling both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood in (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) in the millennial age.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Notice Jesus is the “firstborn” of “many” brethren. What brethren is he the firstborn of? Jesus is the firstborn of those who are born again. Notice the millennial kingdom people won’t be conformed to the likeness of Jesus both king and priest until they see him after the millennium....they will be as he is when they see him.

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Adam is the firstborn of the earthly kingdom. Jesus is the firstborn of the born again heavenly kingdom. The 12 sons blessings are to be given to those those who dwell on earth. David receiving the firstborn Judah blessing the sceptre/kingship and the other anointed the second born Joseph blessing the birthright that 2 can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28. Being Jesus dwells in the higher kingdom of heaven he can combine the firstborn Judah blessing/Kinship and 2nd born Joseph blessing/birthright and be King and High Priest ruling from heaven during the millennium.



Notice in Jeremiah and Ezekiel the millennial kingdom people are following the law once again. The high priest is offering sacrifices and the people are observing the feast days etc. How and why are they following the law. They are following the law because the world will be like the garden of eden, the law will be for holiness and Satan will be bound so there won’t be temptation.



When will the law pass away? When heaven and earth pass away at the end of the millennium according to scripture so the law will be reinstated once the 2000 year age of grace through Jesus ends. So the millennial kingdom people will once again be following the law for holiness because they will be able to since Satan and his cohorts will be bound for 1000 years which removes temptation making it possible to follow the law for holiness.

twotimetwo



Matthew 5:18:


King James Bible
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



God made a covenant with the 1st born Adam and 2 Nd born Eve to have dominion and has to honor it or He would be known as a covenant breaker and He is not.

CovenantGod



There are 2 kingdoms the earthly and the heavenly. The lower kingdom earth will strive to be joined with the upper kingdom heaven. Once the millennium is over then Jesus will be the firstborn of all brethren. Until then he is the firstborn of those who are born again. The earthly kingdom is the testing ground to prepare those to become born again into the next kingdom.

The two anointed are on earth to prepare the people to be born again into the next kingdom. David having dominion over the kingship because he has the earthly firstborn blessing of the Judah sceptre and Joseph having dominion over the earthly priesthood because he has the earthly second born blessing of the birthright.
 Quoting: waterman


I am not going to bother to read your posts. I know what they say. I have read them many times. Jesus will still remain the same Jesus, at that time. The Word will still remain forever and the earth shall pass away one day but his Word shall remain for mankind's direction.

The two offices shall remain both the royal position and the priesthood. The only difference is the royal priesthood shall merge into one office as Jesus exampled it to be. And the Word confirms.

(1Pet.2:9KJV) you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.


Peter declared these words shortly after the resurrection of our Lord. Now, says Peter, we are from that time on, a chosen generation (now and forever), a royal (kingship office) priesthood (priestly office), an holy nation, a peculiar people.

Peter is not saying we are this tiles/name in part but as a whole people a whole nation, as the group of people who are chosen. Not that some/are a holy nation. Not that some were called out of darkness. Not the some were called into a royal priesthood but all were in that same standing position now that we image the life of Christ:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


This is why in the book of Ezekiel, that same prince of/in Israel during the millennial age as the NASI (leader, ruler, royal head,) (Ezek.44:3KJV) is also operational in his (priestly duties) (Ezek.46:2KJV). He is fulfilling his two offices within his royal priesthood.

Regardless you read the Word out of context and get by with it; with some who read the Word but never study it. There will come the two witnesses as the Word declares. But they will not be a king or a priest as you say.

The Word in (Rev.11) says they will be two prophets only, not a king and a priest as you claim. You like to add to the Word those things that are not there to make clear in your own thoughts/imagination what is not revealed..lol.

You believe you are one of the anointed for the end days without any confirmation. Only because this is what you believe. It reminds me of the time you were also convinced that a new moped was yours b/c it was setting on the street in front of our house. You decided to bring it into the house, for you was convinced it was now yours.

After returning home and finding this moped in the house. We finally convinced you it wasn't yours. We left again for a short while and found it had returned again in our house. Again you convinced yourself without any confirmation (deed, title, proof) that it was your moped..LOL.

I know you was only 15 at the time but now as a man you are seeking a bigger prize with even less confirmation..lol. Reason within yourself that you are not what you claim, that your imagination is at work again. You have been claiming this for at least a decade. But you have no confirmation from another witness, a testimony of at least two others. A word of knowledge from any source, spiritual or physical. No other entity in the flesh, soul or spirit to verify this belief of yours.

I wish it had been you instead of myself who had received so many different confirmation from so many sources (as you know well) but it wasn't. I know you sought a position and I didn't, but the Lord decides these things. Please don't be angry with me b/c I will not verify your standing with the Lord, which has not been revealed or verified to me or any other.

Just b/c you were a drunk for ten yrs. on the weekends and played pool and watch your big screen TV during that course in your life; after maintaining a solid job. You feel that qualified you to fulfill the position of one of the two witnesses. I know you posted sometime back it was the hardest time of your life being that drunk. I can understand that being you have never been in prison, service, or anything like that.

I know you turned to drinking b/c of your anger; b/c you felt cheated when you were not called into a chosen position in the Lord/Word/prophecy within scripture.

Thus, after maintaining this anger for ten yrs. You justified your thoughts as the position of one of the two anointed by being a drunk and feeling sorrow for yourself.

For you were aware of the visitations that man received and that within the book of Job is the depiction of his suffering (the baptism in fire) (the Lord requires) and the suffering of that one hidden.

But the suffering of that one will be but less than two full yrs. not ten. And will consist of the furnace of affliction and blackness of the flesh and the order of sorrow, shame, disease and regret. Many mockers and rebukes from his fellows and the force of his God to turn the situation around and he will overcome all adversities.

I know you felt a source of abuse in some of your drunkard stupors. But if we were being honest the billiards, TV, and the partying was somewhat of a relief...lol.

It wasn't like you were being shot at right? Or missing your loved ones and family members or losing your friends in Viet Nam. Or trying to sleep while hungry wild tigers waiting outside your hut waiting to eat you in the darkness of the blackness of the night. Don't think it might have been quite that bad right?
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Meant to say (NASI) title not (NASA) in the above posts.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Waterman I am not trying to discouraging you as you posted me on my karma thread.

I am only seeking to give you insight of the operational ways of our God through the promises of his Word and not after the archaic practices of traditions.

For we are warned to be cautious about traditions for they make the Word ineffectual and powerless:

(Mark.7:12KJV) making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such things do you.

For we have the promises that within the order of God's example; Christ did come forth to brake the curse of the Law. And in so doing eradicating many laws and traditions commanded by certain laws no longer applicable. Thus, as the Word declares:

(Gal.3:13KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:


(Gal.3:14KJV) That the blessings of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Thus, in so doing the works of our Lord's sacrifice allowed us to emerge from the curse of the law and behold the eradication of many traditions originally ordained by certain commands through these law.

Now however we through Jesus Christ obedient sacrifice we are no longer under the wrongful powers of certain traditions of the laws therein implemented. Such traditions as dietary laws after Jesus sacrifice no longer had any force with believes. Thus God revealed these laws no longer applied telling Peter upon the roof what he declares clean is clean.

Jesus, further emphases that which goes into the mouth defiles not the man but that which comes out of the mouth is that which is evil.


Thus, other laws were made void through Jesus sacrifice. The curse against Adam no longer would be effectual. The laws of traditions were meant to be replaced by the justification through the works and offerings of Jesus Christ within a new concept. And thus the fulfillment of justifying both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood encompassed both offices in one man (Jesus Christ).

Therefore, thereafter God commanded that we conform into the Image of his Son. Not some traditional order ordained through traditional history formed beneath the curse of the law before that curse was broken. Thus such tradition is no longer effectual but Gods Word is now in effect:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn of many brethren.

There is the firstborn watermam, and Joseph is the second-born) who is the prince of/in Israel who is rightfully fulfilling both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood in (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) in the millennial age.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Notice Jesus is the “firstborn” of “many” brethren. What brethren is he the firstborn of? Jesus is the firstborn of those who are born again. Notice the millennial kingdom people won’t be conformed to the likeness of Jesus both king and priest until they see him after the millennium....they will be as he is when they see him.

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Adam is the firstborn of the earthly kingdom. Jesus is the firstborn of the born again heavenly kingdom. The 12 sons blessings are to be given to those those who dwell on earth. David receiving the firstborn Judah blessing the sceptre/kingship and the other anointed the second born Joseph blessing the birthright that 2 can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28. Being Jesus dwells in the higher kingdom of heaven he can combine the firstborn Judah blessing/Kinship and 2nd born Joseph blessing/birthright and be King and High Priest ruling from heaven during the millennium.



Notice in Jeremiah and Ezekiel the millennial kingdom people are following the law once again. The high priest is offering sacrifices and the people are observing the feast days etc. How and why are they following the law. They are following the law because the world will be like the garden of eden, the law will be for holiness and Satan will be bound so there won’t be temptation.



When will the law pass away? When heaven and earth pass away at the end of the millennium according to scripture so the law will be reinstated once the 2000 year age of grace through Jesus ends. So the millennial kingdom people will once again be following the law for holiness because they will be able to since Satan and his cohorts will be bound for 1000 years which removes temptation making it possible to follow the law for holiness.

twotimetwo



Matthew 5:18:


King James Bible
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



God made a covenant with the 1st born Adam and 2 Nd born Eve to have dominion and has to honor it or He would be known as a covenant breaker and He is not.

CovenantGod



There are 2 kingdoms the earthly and the heavenly. The lower kingdom earth will strive to be joined with the upper kingdom heaven. Once the millennium is over then Jesus will be the firstborn of all brethren. Until then he is the firstborn of those who are born again. The earthly kingdom is the testing ground to prepare those to become born again into the next kingdom.

The two anointed are on earth to prepare the people to be born again into the next kingdom. David having dominion over the kingship because he has the earthly firstborn blessing of the Judah sceptre and Joseph having dominion over the earthly priesthood because he has the earthly second born blessing of the birthright.
 Quoting: waterman


I am not going to bother to read your posts. I know what they say. I have read them many times. Jesus will still remain the same Jesus, at that time. The Word will still remain forever and the earth shall pass away one day but his Word shall remain for mankind's direction.

The two offices shall remain both the royal position and the priesthood. The only difference is the royal priesthood shall merge into one office as Jesus exampled it to be. And the Word confirms.

(1Pet.2:9KJV) you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.


Peter declared these words shortly after the resurrection of our Lord. Now, says Peter, we are from that time on, a chosen generation (now and forever), a royal (kingship office) priesthood (priestly office), an holy nation, a peculiar people.

Peter is not saying we are this tiles/name in part but as a whole people a whole nation, as the group of people who are chosen. Not that some/are a holy nation. Not that some were called out of darkness. Not the some were called into a royal priesthood but all were in that same standing position now that we image the life of Christ:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


This is why in the book of Ezekiel, that same prince of/in Israel during the millennial age as the NASI (leader, ruler, royal head,) (Ezek.44:3KJV) is also operational in his (priestly duties) (Ezek.46:2KJV). He is fulfilling his two offices within his royal priesthood.

Regardless you read the Word out of context and get by with it; with some who read the Word but never study it. There will come the two witnesses as the Word declares. But they will not be a king or a priest as you say.

The Word in (Rev.11) says they will be two prophets only, not a king and a priest as you claim. You like to add to the Word those things that are not there to make clear in your own thoughts/imagination what is not revealed..lol.

You believe you are one of the anointed for the end days without any confirmation. Only because this is what you believe. It reminds me of the time you were also convinced that a new moped was yours b/c it was setting on the street in front of our house. You decided to bring it into the house, for you was convinced it was now yours.

After returning home and finding this moped in the house. We finally convinced you it wasn't yours. We left again for a short while and found it had returned again in our house. Again you convinced yourself without any confirmation (deed, title, proof) that it was your moped..LOL.

I know you was only 15 at the time but now as a man you are seeking a bigger prize with even less confirmation..lol. Reason within yourself that you are not what you claim, that your imagination is at work again. You have been claiming this for at least a decade. But you have no confirmation from another witness, a testimony of at least two others. A word of knowledge from any source, spiritual or physical. No other entity in the flesh, soul or spirit to verify this belief of yours.

I wish it had been you instead of myself who had received so many different confirmation from so many sources (as you know well) but it wasn't. I know you sought a position and I didn't, but the Lord decides these things. Please don't be angry with me b/c I will not verify your standing with the Lord, which has not been revealed or verified to me or any other.

Just b/c you were a drunk for ten yrs. on the weekends and played pool and watch your big screen TV during that course in your life; after maintaining a solid job. You feel that qualified you to fulfill the position of one of the two witnesses. I know you posted sometime back it was the hardest time of your life being that drunk. I can understand that being you have never been in prison, service, or anything like that.

I know you turned to drinking b/c of your anger; b/c you felt cheated when you were not called into a chosen position in the Lord/Word/prophecy within scripture.

Thus, after maintaining this anger for ten yrs. You justified your thoughts as the position of one of the two anointed by being a drunk and feeling sorrow for yourself.

For you were aware of the visitations that man received and that within the book of Job is the depiction of his suffering (the baptism in fire) (the Lord requires) and the suffering of that one hidden.

But the suffering of that one will be but less than two full yrs. not ten. And will consist of the furnace of affliction and blackness of the flesh and the order of sorrow, shame, disease and regret. Many mockers and rebukes from his fellows and the force of his God to turn the situation around and he will overcome all adversities.

I know you felt a source of abuse in some of your drunkard stupors. But if we were being honest the billiards, TV, and the partying was somewhat of a relief...lol.

It wasn't like you were being shot at right? Or missing your loved ones and family members or losing your friends in Viet Nam. Or trying to sleep while hungry wild tigers waiting outside your hut waiting to eat you in the darkness of the blackness of the night. Don't think it might have been quite that bad right?
 Quoting: S-wordlike


I’ll make it short so u can at least read it during your busy schedule:

Your post sounds like it could be taken right out of Luke 15. The older brother telling the prodigal son why he isn’t getting any thing while in the meantime the Father is preparing the fatted calf for the prodigal son...lol

You can’t see right now who is who but fortunately I can...thanks for your post and I was able to read it all being you took the time to write it....have a good day.


P.S:

Don’t be too concerned that I didn’t get the chance to be ate by a tiger.

Its called “Jacobs trouble” ....remember Jacob is the second born(if you would have read my previous post it would show why you aren’t the second born) fortunately for you it isn’t called David’s trouble. Hence when Joshua the high priest is being criticized by his “adversary” in the throne room God can say “is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”......so I’ll get my “the tiger tried to eat me” moment ......just not right now...lol

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Waterman I am not trying to discouraging you as you posted me on my karma thread.

I am only seeking to give you insight of the operational ways of our God through the promises of his Word and not after the archaic practices of traditions.

For we are warned to be cautious about traditions for they make the Word ineffectual and powerless:

(Mark.7:12KJV) making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such things do you.

For we have the promises that within the order of God's example; Christ did come forth to brake the curse of the Law. And in so doing eradicating many laws and traditions commanded by certain laws no longer applicable. Thus, as the Word declares:

(Gal.3:13KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:


(Gal.3:14KJV) That the blessings of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Thus, in so doing the works of our Lord's sacrifice allowed us to emerge from the curse of the law and behold the eradication of many traditions originally ordained by certain commands through these law.

Now however we through Jesus Christ obedient sacrifice we are no longer under the wrongful powers of certain traditions of the laws therein implemented. Such traditions as dietary laws after Jesus sacrifice no longer had any force with believes. Thus God revealed these laws no longer applied telling Peter upon the roof what he declares clean is clean.

Jesus, further emphases that which goes into the mouth defiles not the man but that which comes out of the mouth is that which is evil.


Thus, other laws were made void through Jesus sacrifice. The curse against Adam no longer would be effectual. The laws of traditions were meant to be replaced by the justification through the works and offerings of Jesus Christ within a new concept. And thus the fulfillment of justifying both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood encompassed both offices in one man (Jesus Christ).

Therefore, thereafter God commanded that we conform into the Image of his Son. Not some traditional order ordained through traditional history formed beneath the curse of the law before that curse was broken. Thus such tradition is no longer effectual but Gods Word is now in effect:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn of many brethren.

There is the firstborn watermam, and Joseph is the second-born) who is the prince of/in Israel who is rightfully fulfilling both offices of the king-ship and the priesthood in (Ezek.44:3KJV) and (Ezek.46:2KJV) in the millennial age.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Notice Jesus is the “firstborn” of “many” brethren. What brethren is he the firstborn of? Jesus is the firstborn of those who are born again. Notice the millennial kingdom people won’t be conformed to the likeness of Jesus both king and priest until they see him after the millennium....they will be as he is when they see him.

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Adam is the firstborn of the earthly kingdom. Jesus is the firstborn of the born again heavenly kingdom. The 12 sons blessings are to be given to those those who dwell on earth. David receiving the firstborn Judah blessing the sceptre/kingship and the other anointed the second born Joseph blessing the birthright that 2 can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28. Being Jesus dwells in the higher kingdom of heaven he can combine the firstborn Judah blessing/Kinship and 2nd born Joseph blessing/birthright and be King and High Priest ruling from heaven during the millennium.



Notice in Jeremiah and Ezekiel the millennial kingdom people are following the law once again. The high priest is offering sacrifices and the people are observing the feast days etc. How and why are they following the law. They are following the law because the world will be like the garden of eden, the law will be for holiness and Satan will be bound so there won’t be temptation.



When will the law pass away? When heaven and earth pass away at the end of the millennium according to scripture so the law will be reinstated once the 2000 year age of grace through Jesus ends. So the millennial kingdom people will once again be following the law for holiness because they will be able to since Satan and his cohorts will be bound for 1000 years which removes temptation making it possible to follow the law for holiness.

twotimetwo



Matthew 5:18:


King James Bible
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



God made a covenant with the 1st born Adam and 2 Nd born Eve to have dominion and has to honor it or He would be known as a covenant breaker and He is not.

CovenantGod



There are 2 kingdoms the earthly and the heavenly. The lower kingdom earth will strive to be joined with the upper kingdom heaven. Once the millennium is over then Jesus will be the firstborn of all brethren. Until then he is the firstborn of those who are born again. The earthly kingdom is the testing ground to prepare those to become born again into the next kingdom.

The two anointed are on earth to prepare the people to be born again into the next kingdom. David having dominion over the kingship because he has the earthly firstborn blessing of the Judah sceptre and Joseph having dominion over the earthly priesthood because he has the earthly second born blessing of the birthright.
 Quoting: waterman


I am not going to bother to read your posts. I know what they say. I have read them many times. Jesus will still remain the same Jesus, at that time. The Word will still remain forever and the earth shall pass away one day but his Word shall remain for mankind's direction.

The two offices shall remain both the royal position and the priesthood. The only difference is the royal priesthood shall merge into one office as Jesus exampled it to be. And the Word confirms.

(1Pet.2:9KJV) you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.


Peter declared these words shortly after the resurrection of our Lord. Now, says Peter, we are from that time on, a chosen generation (now and forever), a royal (kingship office) priesthood (priestly office), an holy nation, a peculiar people.

Peter is not saying we are this tiles/name in part but as a whole people a whole nation, as the group of people who are chosen. Not that some/are a holy nation. Not that some were called out of darkness. Not the some were called into a royal priesthood but all were in that same standing position now that we image the life of Christ:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


This is why in the book of Ezekiel, that same prince of/in Israel during the millennial age as the NASI (leader, ruler, royal head,) (Ezek.44:3KJV) is also operational in his (priestly duties) (Ezek.46:2KJV). He is fulfilling his two offices within his royal priesthood.

Regardless you read the Word out of context and get by with it; with some who read the Word but never study it. There will come the two witnesses as the Word declares. But they will not be a king or a priest as you say.

The Word in (Rev.11) says they will be two prophets only, not a king and a priest as you claim. You like to add to the Word those things that are not there to make clear in your own thoughts/imagination what is not revealed..lol.

You believe you are one of the anointed for the end days without any confirmation. Only because this is what you believe. It reminds me of the time you were also convinced that a new moped was yours b/c it was setting on the street in front of our house. You decided to bring it into the house, for you was convinced it was now yours.

After returning home and finding this moped in the house. We finally convinced you it wasn't yours. We left again for a short while and found it had returned again in our house. Again you convinced yourself without any confirmation (deed, title, proof) that it was your moped..LOL.

I know you was only 15 at the time but now as a man you are seeking a bigger prize with even less confirmation..lol. Reason within yourself that you are not what you claim, that your imagination is at work again. You have been claiming this for at least a decade. But you have no confirmation from another witness, a testimony of at least two others. A word of knowledge from any source, spiritual or physical. No other entity in the flesh, soul or spirit to verify this belief of yours.

I wish it had been you instead of myself who had received so many different confirmation from so many sources (as you know well) but it wasn't. I know you sought a position and I didn't, but the Lord decides these things. Please don't be angry with me b/c I will not verify your standing with the Lord, which has not been revealed or verified to me or any other.

Just b/c you were a drunk for ten yrs. on the weekends and played pool and watch your big screen TV during that course in your life; after maintaining a solid job. You feel that qualified you to fulfill the position of one of the two witnesses. I know you posted sometime back it was the hardest time of your life being that drunk. I can understand that being you have never been in prison, service, or anything like that.

I know you turned to drinking b/c of your anger; b/c you felt cheated when you were not called into a chosen position in the Lord/Word/prophecy within scripture.

Thus, after maintaining this anger for ten yrs. You justified your thoughts as the position of one of the two anointed by being a drunk and feeling sorrow for yourself.

For you were aware of the visitations that man received and that within the book of Job is the depiction of his suffering (the baptism in fire) (the Lord requires) and the suffering of that one hidden.

But the suffering of that one will be but less than two full yrs. not ten. And will consist of the furnace of affliction and blackness of the flesh and the order of sorrow, shame, disease and regret. Many mockers and rebukes from his fellows and the force of his God to turn the situation around and he will overcome all adversities.

I know you felt a source of abuse in some of your drunkard stupors. But if we were being honest the billiards, TV, and the partying was somewhat of a relief...lol.

It wasn't like you were being shot at right? Or missing your loved ones and family members or losing your friends in Viet Nam. Or trying to sleep while hungry wild tigers waiting outside your hut waiting to eat you in the darkness of the blackness of the night. Don't think it might have been quite that bad right?
 Quoting: S-wordlike


I’ll make it short so u can at least read it during your busy schedule:

Your post sounds like it could be taken right out of Luke 15. The older brother telling the prodigal son why he isn’t getting any thing while in the meantime the Father is preparing the fatted calf for the prodigal son...lol

You can’t see right now who is who but fortunately I can...thanks for your post and I was able to read it all being you took the time to write it....have a good day.


P.S:

Don’t be too concerned that I didn’t get the chance to be ate by a tiger.

Its called “Jacobs trouble” ....remember Jacob is the second born(if you would have read my previous post it would show why you aren’t the second born) fortunately for you it isn’t called David’s trouble. Hence when Joshua the high priest is being criticized by his “adversary” in the throne room God can say “is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”......so I’ll get my “the tiger tried to eat me” moment ......just not right now...lol
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The brand plucked out of the fire is the second born (the JOB story) and it isn't you. There is only one man-child in the throne room not two, as you claim. But I will not argue the point with you. You will not change your mind until you find out you have no such promise in your past or your future.
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Notice Jesus is the “firstborn” of “many” brethren. What brethren is he the firstborn of? Jesus is the firstborn of those who are born again. Notice the millennial kingdom people won’t be conformed to the likeness of Jesus both king and priest until they see him after the millennium....they will be as he is when they see him.

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Adam is the firstborn of the earthly kingdom. Jesus is the firstborn of the born again heavenly kingdom. The 12 sons blessings are to be given to those those who dwell on earth. David receiving the firstborn Judah blessing the sceptre/kingship and the other anointed the second born Joseph blessing the birthright that 2 can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28. Being Jesus dwells in the higher kingdom of heaven he can combine the firstborn Judah blessing/Kinship and 2nd born Joseph blessing/birthright and be King and High Priest ruling from heaven during the millennium.



Notice in Jeremiah and Ezekiel the millennial kingdom people are following the law once again. The high priest is offering sacrifices and the people are observing the feast days etc. How and why are they following the law. They are following the law because the world will be like the garden of eden, the law will be for holiness and Satan will be bound so there won’t be temptation.



When will the law pass away? When heaven and earth pass away at the end of the millennium according to scripture so the law will be reinstated once the 2000 year age of grace through Jesus ends. So the millennial kingdom people will once again be following the law for holiness because they will be able to since Satan and his cohorts will be bound for 1000 years which removes temptation making it possible to follow the law for holiness.

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Matthew 5:18:


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For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



God made a covenant with the 1st born Adam and 2 Nd born Eve to have dominion and has to honor it or He would be known as a covenant breaker and He is not.

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There are 2 kingdoms the earthly and the heavenly. The lower kingdom earth will strive to be joined with the upper kingdom heaven. Once the millennium is over then Jesus will be the firstborn of all brethren. Until then he is the firstborn of those who are born again. The earthly kingdom is the testing ground to prepare those to become born again into the next kingdom.

The two anointed are on earth to prepare the people to be born again into the next kingdom. David having dominion over the kingship because he has the earthly firstborn blessing of the Judah sceptre and Joseph having dominion over the earthly priesthood because he has the earthly second born blessing of the birthright.
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I am not going to bother to read your posts. I know what they say. I have read them many times. Jesus will still remain the same Jesus, at that time. The Word will still remain forever and the earth shall pass away one day but his Word shall remain for mankind's direction.

The two offices shall remain both the royal position and the priesthood. The only difference is the royal priesthood shall merge into one office as Jesus exampled it to be. And the Word confirms.

(1Pet.2:9KJV) you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.


Peter declared these words shortly after the resurrection of our Lord. Now, says Peter, we are from that time on, a chosen generation (now and forever), a royal (kingship office) priesthood (priestly office), an holy nation, a peculiar people.

Peter is not saying we are this tiles/name in part but as a whole people a whole nation, as the group of people who are chosen. Not that some/are a holy nation. Not that some were called out of darkness. Not the some were called into a royal priesthood but all were in that same standing position now that we image the life of Christ:

(Rom.8:29KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


This is why in the book of Ezekiel, that same prince of/in Israel during the millennial age as the NASI (leader, ruler, royal head,) (Ezek.44:3KJV) is also operational in his (priestly duties) (Ezek.46:2KJV). He is fulfilling his two offices within his royal priesthood.

Regardless you read the Word out of context and get by with it; with some who read the Word but never study it. There will come the two witnesses as the Word declares. But they will not be a king or a priest as you say.

The Word in (Rev.11) says they will be two prophets only, not a king and a priest as you claim. You like to add to the Word those things that are not there to make clear in your own thoughts/imagination what is not revealed..lol.

You believe you are one of the anointed for the end days without any confirmation. Only because this is what you believe. It reminds me of the time you were also convinced that a new moped was yours b/c it was setting on the street in front of our house. You decided to bring it into the house, for you was convinced it was now yours.

After returning home and finding this moped in the house. We finally convinced you it wasn't yours. We left again for a short while and found it had returned again in our house. Again you convinced yourself without any confirmation (deed, title, proof) that it was your moped..LOL.

I know you was only 15 at the time but now as a man you are seeking a bigger prize with even less confirmation..lol. Reason within yourself that you are not what you claim, that your imagination is at work again. You have been claiming this for at least a decade. But you have no confirmation from another witness, a testimony of at least two others. A word of knowledge from any source, spiritual or physical. No other entity in the flesh, soul or spirit to verify this belief of yours.

I wish it had been you instead of myself who had received so many different confirmation from so many sources (as you know well) but it wasn't. I know you sought a position and I didn't, but the Lord decides these things. Please don't be angry with me b/c I will not verify your standing with the Lord, which has not been revealed or verified to me or any other.

Just b/c you were a drunk for ten yrs. on the weekends and played pool and watch your big screen TV during that course in your life; after maintaining a solid job. You feel that qualified you to fulfill the position of one of the two witnesses. I know you posted sometime back it was the hardest time of your life being that drunk. I can understand that being you have never been in prison, service, or anything like that.

I know you turned to drinking b/c of your anger; b/c you felt cheated when you were not called into a chosen position in the Lord/Word/prophecy within scripture.

Thus, after maintaining this anger for ten yrs. You justified your thoughts as the position of one of the two anointed by being a drunk and feeling sorrow for yourself.

For you were aware of the visitations that man received and that within the book of Job is the depiction of his suffering (the baptism in fire) (the Lord requires) and the suffering of that one hidden.

But the suffering of that one will be but less than two full yrs. not ten. And will consist of the furnace of affliction and blackness of the flesh and the order of sorrow, shame, disease and regret. Many mockers and rebukes from his fellows and the force of his God to turn the situation around and he will overcome all adversities.

I know you felt a source of abuse in some of your drunkard stupors. But if we were being honest the billiards, TV, and the partying was somewhat of a relief...lol.

It wasn't like you were being shot at right? Or missing your loved ones and family members or losing your friends in Viet Nam. Or trying to sleep while hungry wild tigers waiting outside your hut waiting to eat you in the darkness of the blackness of the night. Don't think it might have been quite that bad right?
 Quoting: S-wordlike


I’ll make it short so u can at least read it during your busy schedule:

Your post sounds like it could be taken right out of Luke 15. The older brother telling the prodigal son why he isn’t getting any thing while in the meantime the Father is preparing the fatted calf for the prodigal son...lol

You can’t see right now who is who but fortunately I can...thanks for your post and I was able to read it all being you took the time to write it....have a good day.


P.S:

Don’t be too concerned that I didn’t get the chance to be ate by a tiger.

Its called “Jacobs trouble” ....remember Jacob is the second born(if you would have read my previous post it would show why you aren’t the second born) fortunately for you it isn’t called David’s trouble. Hence when Joshua the high priest is being criticized by his “adversary” in the throne room God can say “is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”......so I’ll get my “the tiger tried to eat me” moment ......just not right now...lol
 Quoting: waterman


The brand plucked out of the fire is the second born (the JOB story) and it isn't you. There is only one man-child in the throne room not two, as you claim. But I will not argue the point with you. You will not change your mind until you find out you have no such promise in your past or your future.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


You can’t see the other anointed therefore you don’t know the book of Zechariah and Revelation are connected books showing the positions of the two anointed. Zechariah shows Joshua the high priest receiving priestly garments. Revelation 12 shows the man-child receiving the government/kingship.

Only Joshua has someone/adversary disputing his inheritance/blessing. The man-child has no one disputing his inheritance/blessing because Joshua knows what is his and what is David’s/Judah’s. Only a 1st born would dispute the 2nd born receiving the birthright......can you think of someone who might not want the other anointed to have the birthright and only receive the kingship?


God didn’t save the grand finale of the 1st born and 2nd born receiving their inheritance/dominion just to bring the 1st born up to the throne room and finish up by saying to the firstborn...”oh yeah I almost forgot ...tell that other anointed he got the gad blessing which has no dominion...tell him sorry I tried but couldn’t figure out how to give him any dominion.”.......I’m sure I won’t have to delegate for God how to award the 1st born the Judah sceptre blessing and award the 2nd born the Joseph 2nd born blessing of the birthright so he can inherit the priesthood....lol


Adam is the firstborn masculine and Eve is the 2nd born feminine....if you are the 1st born and 2nd born in the world how much thought does it take to realize you give the 1st born the Judah 1st born blessing which is the sceptre so he can be the spiritual masculine which is the kingship. Then you give the 2nd born the 2nd born blessing which we know Joseph received the 2nd born blessing of the birthright. The 2nd born will use this to have dominion over the spiritual feminine priesthood. Hence the scriptures started out with the physical masculine Adam and the physical feminine Eve. The scriptures end with the 1st born being the spiritual masculine the king and the 2nd born being the spiritual feminine the high priest.



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That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
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That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
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As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.





Talking to a person who is blinded by God....you keep hoping they will see and then the say I know the davidic/levitic kingdom is separation of the kingship and priesthood and I’m going to be both....hmmmmm...bizzaro world.

Your dream to be Judah the king blessing and Joseph a whole separate line which is impossible and have the birthright to claim the birthright/priesthood.


My dream : to be the 2nd born birthright holding high priest ....which one seems more likely being there are 2 anointed.....your interpretation of being both king and high priest on earth and eliminating the other anointed seems greedy and incorrect being there are two anointed and not just one.. pretend you are the second anointed .do you want to give the first anointed your given birthright blessing? Not really.

2nd born is always the joseph birthright....firstborn is always the Judah kingship...you can’t have both David...your partner has the birthright and he knows it.

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 Quoting: waterman

That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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Are the two annointed in the first post maybe their different words for the two witnesses of revelation? They do not accept revelation, so they would call the two witnesses something else.

Annointed

I think this might be.

By the way, Jesus is not as taught in churches the same as Yahushua, of the Hebrews.

YAHUSHUA is the Messiah of the Bible.
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“If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it.”
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 Quoting: waterman

That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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Ahhh I can see it now our first day on the job in the not so far future:



I’ve already read Judah’s apology to Joseph in the end and it will be better than this video....but keep the slander down a little it will make the apology easier in the end....lol

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 Quoting: waterman

That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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I highlighted your timeline in red up above:

What you have wrong is I picked up a book from the local news land book store which I probably would have picked up on a Saturday or Sunday. It was a book on end times prophecy and was 448 pages long. Notice the book was published on January of 1998. So if I picked it up on a Saturday as a new release book it would have been probably around February 7th a Saturday 1998. And as you know by March 21 I stated you was one of the two witnesses.

Once I started reading it I started discussing it with you and then we began to share sweet council. This continued on for 1260 days until July 21 2001 when I read psalm 55 where the guy has a friend that is his betrayer. My heart immediately sunk as I saw my self as the betrayer and I plummeted into that spiritual prison where there is only loneliness and a feeling of no hope of being redeemed.


I could not escape that spiritual prison for 10 years. Then one night on November 16 2011 I said to God ...”God I’m going to give you something no one else can....as I know it is already written I’m the betrayer and have no hope for redemption but I’m going to go up to this field and bring music and praise you and dance and shout glory to you.” I did it and it was the best praise I had to give him. The next night I did the same thing and boom I could feel the gates of the spiritual prison open.....the loneliness left.

Then I began to read the scriptures and realized psalm 55 wasn’t a second Jesus and Judas scenario....it was a Joseph and Judah scenario. The end time 2 anointed start out in sweet council for 1260 days then Joseph is tested to see if he would curse God if God condemned him to hell. Right at the end of the 10 year test Joseph is seen praising singing and dancing for the Lord so he passes the test. It wasn’t a couple weeks later I’m praising the Lord in my work truck singing...”I love ya love ya love ya Lord” when I look out my window and see the word “Love” written in the sky...it lasted about 30 seconds and then all the clouds disappeared and there wasn’t one to be seen.

Here is a picture I took after i pulled over and it was almost gone....the moon was bigger than it appears in the picture and was the “O” in love. The wind was blowing the clouds and the moon is in the v of the picture by the time I took the picture

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The scriptures opened up to me because I was given the key it was the story of the 1st born and the 2nd born a judah and a Joseph story for the end times.. once you read the scriptures in firstborn and 2nd born perspective you can see who is who and what inheritance/blessings they receive.


Revelations 2000 by M.J Agee

Release Date: January 1998
Publisher: HarperCollins Publishers
Length: 448 Pages
Weight: 0.48 lbs.
Dimensions: 1.2" x 4.2" x 6.9"



So your timeline should be from 1998 we shared sweet council for 1260 days. Then July 21 2001 I went into my spiritual prison with no hope for redemption for 10 years. Then November 2011 I came and visited you to tell you I’ve discovered I’m the other anointed which you were less than happy to hear. A couple months later I was fired from my job and collected unemployment for 9 months. I began studying and posting on godlike productions about how the two anointed hold different offices and how to divide the inheritance/blessings between the two which in turn further proved my understanding of you being Judah.....so there is your correct timeline.....you forgot to add our 1260 days or 42 months or a time times and half a time however you want to read it of sweet council.

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That comment would apply to my analysis and the scripture revealing a one man office of king and priest.

Regardless, believe as you will. I am done arguing this same point with you over and over again.
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As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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Ahhh I can see it now our first day on the job in the not so far future:



I’ve already read Judah’s apology to Joseph in the end and it will be better than this video....but keep the slander down a little it will make the apology easier in the end....lol
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Okay Waterman believe as you wish. Live in your little fantasy that one day you are owed an apology.

In the meantime your own blindness in such lunacy has destroyed your relationships with your own relatives. Don't add that to this being my fault. This was/is of your doing.

What a waste of a life to believe in such a fantasy so profoundly you destroy your relationship with many around you. What a shock you will discover in the end. When the reality of your fantasy is discovered.
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As you say....there is no need to argue it....Gods shows that the firstborn is blinded to seeing the 2nd born. I can see my other anointed....if you could see yours it would throw my theory out the window

All you have to do is look at the jewws and Christian relationship....this is how the two anointed relationship will be.....can you not see you can’t see your other anointed just as the jewws can’t see the Christians.

The thing that is messing you up is that 2nd born getting the birthright.....you have read too many 2nd and 3rd books of Enoch making Enoch equal to God. You are going to rule for a millennium as king but the other anointed is going to rule as high priest for an equal time......of all people God picked to be your partner....lol the one you are least enthusiastic about....lol.....ain’t that the way God works.

Who else is going to show up to your door and will say “i’m the anointed one are you the other one? If they have to ask you if you are the other anointed one then they aren’t the other anointed. A second born can see a firstborn just like Christians can see the jewws being Gods chosen ones but jewws can’t see the Christians as Gods other chosen.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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Ahhh I can see it now our first day on the job in the not so far future:



I’ve already read Judah’s apology to Joseph in the end and it will be better than this video....but keep the slander down a little it will make the apology easier in the end....lol
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Okay Waterman believe as you wish. Live in your little fantasy that one day you are owed an apology.

In the meantime your own blindness in such lunacy has destroyed your relationships with your own relatives. Don't add that to this being my fault. This was/is of your doing.

What a waste of a life to believe in such a fantasy so profoundly you destroy your relationship with many around you. What a shock you will discover in the end. When the reality of your fantasy is discovered.
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It’s like you can’t stop proving me correct...lol

Genesis 37:4

And when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren, they hated him, and could not speak peaceably unto him.
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Try to keep your story straight Waterman. You made no such claim you were the other anointed one on that day. Not until years later as a matter of fact.

After I receivied a calling and a visitation by the Lord even 20 yrs before in 1978 and your own claim on my behalf as being one of two witnesses in scripture in 1998. Then in another 10 yrs of self pity and a drunken stupor after that you made no such claim of being an anointed one. Then another few yrs of self contemplation after that. Then you decided you were the other witnesses/anointed one.

How did you make this decision? Not by verification or confirmation by any other one. Only because you thought you recognized me as being the other anointed one in 1998. Nevertheless, God verified the same testimony among 8 others shortly thereafter. So your testimony was only a series of other testimonies given to me all the way back to 1978.

Now I don't care if you claim you are an anointed one or whether I am or not. Just tell the truth when it comes to the matter of the subject. Nothing needs to be embellished in our testimonies when an account of a happening is recalled.

No I am not shocked by your claims. Many have claimed the same position throughout history, few are though.

As I said believe as you will just keep it truthful. And do me a big favor stop claiming your an anointed one until your on the Job..lol.
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Ahhh I can see it now our first day on the job in the not so far future:



I’ve already read Judah’s apology to Joseph in the end and it will be better than this video....but keep the slander down a little it will make the apology easier in the end....lol
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Okay Waterman believe as you wish. Live in your little fantasy that one day you are owed an apology.

In the meantime your own blindness in such lunacy has destroyed your relationships with your own relatives. Don't add that to this being my fault. This was/is of your doing.

What a waste of a life to believe in such a fantasy so profoundly you destroy your relationship with many around you. What a shock you will discover in the end. When the reality of your fantasy is discovered.
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It’s like you can’t stop proving me correct...lol

Genesis 37:4

And when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren, they hated him, and could not speak peaceably unto him.
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Waterman try to focus just for a moment. What I posted above has nothing to do with hate but only the reality of truth. Truth and hate are two totally different spectrum's on anyone's scale. Except perhaps yours.

I don't hate you. You are not Joseph he died long ago. You're not the Prodigal son he was more apt to be symbolic of the splitting of the nation of Israel from north to south. You are not Bob he is an actor playing a role and I am not Judah he has also past on. And I might add you are not even symbolic Joseph or I symbolic Judah or that Prodigal son symbolically.

You and I are part of a real world harsh as it is and most people seek some stability in the world through the love of their family, friendships, and a core understanding that even in disagreements in opinions and often perspectives should not evolve into a form of isolation from your family you have chose. This should bear no hard feelings on our love between those things we should be cherishing while we still can.

Now it's okay to play like you care for one consanguineous loved one more than another but you should mingle with them nonetheless. And I don't mean at funerals only.
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Ahhh I can see it now our first day on the job in the not so far future:



I’ve already read Judah’s apology to Joseph in the end and it will be better than this video....but keep the slander down a little it will make the apology easier in the end....lol
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Okay Waterman believe as you wish. Live in your little fantasy that one day you are owed an apology.

In the meantime your own blindness in such lunacy has destroyed your relationships with your own relatives. Don't add that to this being my fault. This was/is of your doing.

What a waste of a life to believe in such a fantasy so profoundly you destroy your relationship with many around you. What a shock you will discover in the end. When the reality of your fantasy is discovered.
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It’s like you can’t stop proving me correct...lol

Genesis 37:4

And when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren, they hated him, and could not speak peaceably unto him.
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman try to focus just for a moment. What I posted above has nothing to do with hate but only the reality of truth. Truth and hate are two totally different spectrum's on anyone's scale. Except perhaps yours.

I don't hate you. You are not Joseph he died long ago. You're not the Prodigal son he was more apt to be symbolic of the splitting of the nation of Israel from north to south. You are not Bob he is an actor playing a role and I am not Judah he has also past on. And I might add you are not even symbolic Joseph or I symbolic Judah or that Prodigal son symbolically.

You and I are part of a real world harsh as it is and most people seek some stability in the world through the love of their family, friendships, and a core understanding that even in disagreements in opinions and often perspectives should not evolve into a form of isolation from your family you have chose. This should bear no hard feelings on our love between those things we should be cherishing while we still can.

Now it's okay to play like you care for one consanguineous loved one more than another but you should mingle with them nonetheless. And I don't mean at funerals only.
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There is a macro and a micro. When it shows the two anointed as separate such as Isaiah speaking about Israel “AND” Jacob you only want to apply the macro and claim it only applies to the northern and southern kingdom of Israel. What you don’t realize is there is a micro and the micro is Jacob is the representative of the northern kingdom and Israel is the representative of the southern kingdom. Israel means firstborn. Jacob means 2nd born

The final 2 anointed have to come through 1 of the 12 sons of jacobs lines to receive that lines blessing/inheritance. David has to come from the Judah sceptre/kingship line that is the Judah blessing/inheritance.

Being Eve was created at the same time as Adam and came forth from Adam we have a special circumstance just as Jesus came forth from the Father and Jesus and the Father are one....just as the northern kingdom came forth from the southern kingdom and yet in the end become one.....can you see the pattern? Therefore the second born being the other half of the 1st born can claim his mothers fathers tribal line which makes it possible for the 2nd born to come from the line of Joseph. Just as Jesus used his mothers fathers tribal line to be from Judah.


Do you not find it strange I lived with my mothers father for over a year from the time when I was born while you were away? And then lived with him again when I was 17?




And that is how you get the two anointed to come forth from two different lines.....Judah the sceptre/kingship and Joseph the birthright/priesthood....both receiving dominion as promised.




Heeebrew meaning of the word “hate”

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noun

hatred, hate, rancour, grudge, enmity, animosity

hostility, hatred, animosity, enmity, malice, hate
verb

hate, dislike, detest, abhor

loathe, abhor, hate, detest, disdain

detest, despise, abhor, hate, reject

hate, forsake

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