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MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is?

 
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Op is a reincarnated chinese. Back then, maybe even now, they believed that upon dying and taking the draught of forgetfulness, they would pass through a "sorting wheel" of reincarnation.

Or most likely, it's just a mess of information he was not able to process.
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Regardless of what you think, it's an intriguing vision.
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This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it.
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Some people that have taken salvia have reported to see the same wheel.

The wheel appears in the Bible (Ezekiel) and is consistent with Buddhist accounts.
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i was thinking about a salvia trip i had vbery very much just like this as i was reading it, and was actually quite surprised to see you say as such just a couple posts below the OP.

had several similar experiences. the first ever trip i was in was benevolent and welcoming. although i quickly realized i was not supposed to be there, atleast not yet. and sort of snapped back to reality.

another time. it was like i was inside a booth, and i could leave it and travelt o other booths, and i had the feeling like the booths were human vessels or something and i was my 'soul'. part way through jumping booths i realized there was no way i could get back and find the one i came from. but something kind of took me and forced me into a new booth and assigned it me. i think it was my original... it seems to be.

the last time i ever did salvia i remember it was like i saw the paged of a book being flipped, like really close up. as i was looking at it i realized that it was me, and everything else. then i realized that it was actually a wheel spinning, and i was in it along with everything else. it was like i panicked sort of like the OP i felt like i was getting stuck between the blades of the fan and wasn't sure where my original place was, but i sort of felt at ease because it shouldn't matter as i am the wheel, and any spot would suffice. but it was kind of like i was doing something wrong in that regard like i was stepping into the wrong spot and fucking something up. then it was like i was injured and felt a loss, like as if i lost the use of my legs or something and was remorseful. it seemed like the wheel was damged, and i thought "oh no, i ruined all of existence." then it was like the 4th wall broke, and there was a door open in the abyss that the wheel existed in and a big creature like a giant troll or something came in and took the wheel and sort of implied that it was damaged and thought to throw it away. it was so crazy, like everything in all existance you know, everything important to me personally, and everything everyone was all just a thing to be thrown away and replaced.

i don't really know how to describe this stuff either. much like the OP you can piece it together in words but it doesn't mean the same as the experience, in the moment it all makes sense to a degree.
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Nice to read the people who saw this while using Salvia.
First thing I thought.
but for me it looked like a train with those wheels and my whole life played out in that train.. I really lived my whole life again during that trip it was so insanely intense
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my personal opinion near death experience are nothing but your brain going into a state of dreaming due to shock and even whatever you had to eat that day will affect that dream.
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If people are not supposed to remember, how come some remember their past lives?
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Because it's a possibility. So it happens, now and then.
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This is referenced in the CIA doc The Gateway Experience
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Interesting, but I’m pretty sure this is a Luciferan deception, even if he did actually experience all this. Demons can alter every aspec or of your consciousness in some circumstances, such as near death experiences.

If someone died with the Holy Spirit in their heart and soul, they would not have this experience.

I have definitely experienced and interacted with an intelligent and loving personal God in this lifetime, who is not a mindless ‘wheel’ or machine. He is love.
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It's called a Prime Temporal Event. There are many experiences and conclusions to it:

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Has anyone who had the wheel experience heard a whooshing whirling noise with it? It’s important to me from experience back in 2004.
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Ive felt that a toroid (a doughnut shape) was something important in cosmic reality..but I dont know why. I guess it could be seen as wheel-like.
Do you remember?
"like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning, like a never-ending reel.
Like the circles that you find..in the windmills of your mind"
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TLDR
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It’s just a bunch of bullshit anyway.
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The above was what happened in my near death experience.

This wheel thing is very interesting and something about it feels familiar.
Like knowing something but not quite being able to recall it.
Similar to the feeling of having a word on the “tip of your tongue”.
You know that you know it and almost have it but it is just out of ones grasp.

My best guess at the “wheel” is that it is the “wheel of samsara”.
Which we all must progress enough to move beyond through many, many lifetimes of experiences and pain.
It takes suffering to get to the point where you don’t judge others and have unconditional love for all.

We are not to judge because there are things happening that we are not aware of. There are circumstances and situations that are invisible.
No one is better than anyone else. We are all one really. Separate members of the same body.

In my NDE , it was clear to me that reincarnation was very real and I learned that I, myself had lived many, many thousands of lives. I have cried rivers of tears. But I had passed beyond the wheel of samsara.

This is my last life here.

I remember that the options I had after this life were very awesome!
I will see you there!
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea / Triteia 78130473


Interesting. Is that what they mean by 'old soul'- a person like you who is almost done with this existence/plane/planet?
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Yes. Exactly.
hf
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Nooooo. Can I just pretend that I don't judge and that I love unconditionally. I'm actually a lot better than I used to be so maybe I'll have it sorted out before it's my time to go. I mean I enjoy life for the most part but it's also HARD WORK!
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why don't you just put the whole article in BOLD you giant TARD
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This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it.
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exactly.

this is garbage.
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TLDR
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It’s just a bunch of bullshit anyway.
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Yep
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Everyone who smokes salvia divinorum sees the wheel of reality
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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"who I was just a moment ago in another paddle on the wheel. I had no memory whatsoever of where I had come from or the highway situation in my world. I had zero memory of that world. I knew I had come from a 'somewhere' but had no recollection of where that was, or even who I was. It was about the most bizarre thing that you could imagine."

Yah, exactly how it feels to smoke 20x salvia extract... could not have said it any better!
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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The above was what happened in my near death experience.

This wheel thing is very interesting and something about it feels familiar.
Like knowing something but not quite being able to recall it.
Similar to the feeling of having a word on the “tip of your tongue”.
You know that you know it and almost have it but it is just out of ones grasp.

My best guess at the “wheel” is that it is the “wheel of samsara”.
Which we all must progress enough to move beyond through many, many lifetimes of experiences and pain.
It takes suffering to get to the point where you don’t judge others and have unconditional love for all.

We are not to judge because there are things happening that we are not aware of. There are circumstances and situations that are invisible.
No one is better than anyone else. We are all one really. Separate members of the same body.

In my NDE , it was clear to me that reincarnation was very real and I learned that I, myself had lived many, many thousands of lives. I have cried rivers of tears. But I had passed beyond the wheel of samsara.

This is my last life here.

I remember that the options I had after this life were very awesome!
I will see you there!
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea / Triteia 78130473


Wheel of Samara. Yes, and you are correct, this is the last round in this cycle. This cycle was a lesson on Duality/Pisces/Yin Yang. The final exam started 12/21/19 and ends after 7 years of tribulation 12/21/19. All is here for us to experience and purge.
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16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

Ezekiel’s whirlwind is a description of Right handed DNA. Your normal DNA.

The mark is a genetic anomaly or marker on your otherwise normal right handed helix.

You will be identified by this Satanic anomaly and tethered to Ai with a DNA sign on. Or don’t deny Jesus and you are killed for your faith.
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Okay. This is interesting, really.

I've seen a wheel, but not on drugs of any sort, just in a dream, but it was from a different perspective, more like looking at a roulette or color wheel.

It seems there is a bit of a paradox in the story. Despite the feeling of separateness, there is an apparent continuity. In that sense of "this is me", even though I am not me, there is still a "me" in the story.
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Interesting.

I dreamt of a wheel in another realm. After my uncle died - he was also my godfather - I visited him in a dream, first time I dreamed of him after his death. He worked in this building shaped like a wheel. It was so surreal to me to think that there was this sort of work existence, a society that was somewhat similar to our own. Anyway, in this huge building shaped like a wheel, he had a huge office with a large curved window. He had an important job and was in charge of some sort of operations and other people. He took me to the center of the wheel where there was a huge, well lit, academic style auditorium with stairs leading down to the center. There were all these people there and they were busy doing their jobs. My uncle seemed very happy, very productive and social there. Then I woke up.
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I’ve visited loved ones in the other world and even dreamed about who I was before I incarnated here. From those experiences, the other world has homes, streets, and universities. Well, I know there’s one university. There could be more. One loved one told me about different levels. I didn’t understand it at the time, but he was very excited to tell me and thought it was all very interesting.

I believe these wheels are the same thing, described from different points of view. I believe there are angels that work on the wheel.

Interesting, but I’m pretty sure this is a Luciferan deception, even if he did actually experience all this. Demons can alter every aspec or of your consciousness in some circumstances, such as near death experiences.

If someone died with the Holy Spirit in their heart and soul, they would not have this experience.

I have definitely experienced and interacted with an intelligent and loving personal God in this lifetime, who is not a mindless ‘wheel’ or machine. He is love.
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Jesus is a whole different experience than angels. Angels can be healing and helpful or they can seem harsh and cold. They operate by certain laws. In the Old Testament people often found them to be terrifying.

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I've seen the wheel in my own dreams, a wheel within a wheel.

It's interstellar.
A time machine.

Speaking of which, the movie Interstellar was released five years ago today, on Nov. 7th 2014.
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"Are there any other questions that we could ask to help you communicate your experience?
There are far too many questions and some of them are irksome and/or repetitive. Use fewer more useful questions. It takes too long to fill in the questionnaire. Don't ask people to explain things in words they have just said is impossible to explain in words!"



The guy sounded like a bit of a dick before the experience, that's why he was treated the way he was.

He was filling out a generic questionnaire and got irked by the questions.
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Ive seen this wheel while in a deep and i mean deep acid trip... black gel tabs to be exact.. it was when i had had enough and pulled the blanket over me thinking all the shit iw
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If we are forced to reincarnate each time,

we may as well do our best to make the world better each time,

so that we can come back to a better world each time.

If we keep doing this, the world will continuously get better and better, until there's eventually a "heaven on Earth". And if so, maybe this is the wheel's ultimate and benevolent plan all along.
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I have definitely seen reality turn into a ‘flip book’ seemingly rapidly flipping through realities on Salvia, but I don’t know what to make of it.
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Not at all what I experienced anytime Ive almost died or died.Ive been saved by an invisible force/energy When I almost rode off a cliff and when I fell under the ice and when I escaped an abduction that made the news,this all happened in my younger years along with many very negative energies that circled me and were able to move things.
The one time I died,I went into what seemed like a pregame loby for an MMO game,everyone knew me instantly and I knew them,I could hear them all yelling happily at me and was able to hone in on any one voice at my liking,I wanted to stay in that place,that seemed like a room of intense bright light,I liken it to,if you were code zipping through an ether net cable,and all though other code represented your very close friends that you've know since time began.
Ive also had other experiences with loved ones that have passed and came back to intervene in my physical life,two of those situations involved events that made local and national news.
I am convinced we are in a program as a soul,and this is the only way to have a physical experience...or we are in a program against our will,but that lobby area that I mentioned didnt feel like punishment or we were being used for nefarious purposes.
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I too know about the room. The way you described it brought me chills because I remember it in almost the same way.
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I could go into alot more detail if you like and we could compare notes,yours would be the only other similar experience I know of.I am also wondering if you've experienced the mandela effect or 11:11.
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Windmills of Your mind



Round, like a circle in a spiral

Like a wheel within a wheel.

Never ending or beginning,

On an ever spinning wheel

Like a snowball down a mountain

Or a carnaval balloon

Like a carousell that's turning

Running rings around the moon



Like a clock whose hands are sweeping

Past the minutes on it's face

And the world is like an apple

Whirling silently in space

Like the circles that you find

In the windmills of your mind



Like a tunnel that you follow

To a tunnel of it's own

Down a hollow to a cavern

Where the sun has never shone

Like a door that keeps revolving

In a half forgotten dream

Or the ripples from a pebble

Someone tosses in a stream.



Like a clock whose hands are sweeping

Past the minutes on it's face

And the world is like an apple

Whirling silently in space

Like the circles that you find

In the windmills of your mind



Keys that jingle in your pocket

Words that jangle your head

Why did summer go so quickly

Was it something that I said

Lovers walking allong the shore,

Leave their footprints in the sand

Was the sound of distant drumming

Just the fingers of your hand



Pictures hanging in a hallway

And a fragment of this song

Half remembered names and faces

But to whom do they belong

When you knew that it was over

Were you suddenly aware

That the autumn leaves were turning

To the color of her hair



Like a circle in a spiral

Like a wheel within a wheel

Never ending or beginning,

On an ever spinning wheel

As the images unwind

Like the circle that you find

In the windmills of your mind



Pictures hanging in a hallway

And the fragment of this song

Half remembered names and faces

But to whom do they belong

When you knew that it was over

Were you suddenly aware

That the autumn leaves were turning

To the color of her hair



Like a circle in a spiral

Like a wheel within a wheel

Never ending or beginning,

On an ever spinning wheel

As the images unwind

Like the circles that you find

In the windmills of your mind
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A wheel within a wheel huh?

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Look up the description of the beings surrounding God's throne in Heaven.

Wheels abound on these creatures.

One of the five was named Lucifer.

In the Bible, there are four remaining around the throne, after his fall.

If the other four live in Heaven, perpetually guarding God's throne, who did the recounter meet on earth?

He prowls like a lion, seeking to devour. A liar and a murderer from the beginning.





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