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Did the Carter Page FISA Warrant Allow Them to Spy on Other Trump Officials? Update: It allowed them to spy on up to 25000 people close Trump

 
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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

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They needed it to justify the timeframe when they were ‘illegally’ spying without a warrant. When they got the FISA, it’s retroactive - which covered the timeframe they didn’t have the warrant.

That’s the BIG takeaway here as Nunes keeps saying:

Spying started before FISA
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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

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They needed it to justify the timeframe when they were ‘illegally’ spying without a warrant. When they got the FISA, it’s retroactive - which covered the timeframe they didn’t have the warrant.

That’s the BIG takeaway here as Nunes keeps saying:

Spying started before FISA
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The continuance was to entrap Trump or anyone anywhere on anything.
It was sent to Mueller to comb through.
Part of the insurance policy.
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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

fucky
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They needed it to justify the timeframe when they were ‘illegally’ spying without a warrant. When they got the FISA, it’s retroactive - which covered the timeframe they didn’t have the warrant.

That’s the BIG takeaway here as Nunes keeps saying:

Spying started before FISA
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The continuance was to entrap Trump or anyone anywhere on anything.
It was sent to Mueller to comb through.
Part of the insurance policy.
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How could they entrap Trump is the FISA warrant only allowed them to spy on Carter Page? He had little or no contact with the new Trump administration. The FISA warrant must have allowed them to spy on more than just Page. A nose in the tent in other words.

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My understanding is that it does indeed allow them to spy on people connected to the target.
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Just found this:

Journalist Sharyl Attkisson, the host of "Full Measure," follows up on her interview with former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell about her allegation that the "entire Russia collusion narrative was made up" by anti-Trump political partisans in the FBI and Department of Justice. Attkisson reports how one FISA warrant against Trump staffer Carter Page could be used to legally surveil 25,000 people who were associated with him:

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look the Patriots used the republicans very tools of the Patriot act against them.

they sign the Patriot law into act, they ordered a shit sandwich, now they have to EAT IT
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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

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To undermine the presidency and future election meddling purposes as the "sources" continued leaking anti Trump propaganda to MSM. Yeah...not politically biased at all.
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Fuck! Look at this shit! The surveillance would have included Trump's phone also.

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SIDNEY POWELL: And what most people don't understand is, they don't just get everything they want against Carter Page, they get everything they want against every person who communicated with Carter Page, and against every person who communicated with that person. So it goes out what's called two hops.

SHARYL ATTKISSON: And that would allow them to find intelligence from someone nowhere near the original center that they went to the FISA Court about?

SIDNEY POWELL: Exactly. They could have all kinds of banking records and personal information on tens of thousands of people by virtue of those FISA applications.

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My understanding is that it does indeed allow them to spy on people connected to the target.
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I remember reading something about that. If I remember correctly, it allowed them to spy on contacts several layers deep! If you were the target, they could spy on you, anybody communicating with you, and anybody communicating with those people. So, by having a bogus FISA warrant to go after Page, it was pretty much open season on everybody in the Trump camp -- including Trump himself!
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My understanding is that it does indeed allow them to spy on people connected to the target.
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I remember reading something about that. If I remember correctly, it allowed them to spy on contacts several layers deep! If you were the target, they could spy on you, anybody communicating with you, and anybody communicating with those people. So, by having a bogus FISA warrant to go after Page, it was pretty much open season on everybody in the Trump camp -- including Trump himself!
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thiss

Everyone should know about this. I think most people assume it was just Carter Page or a limited number of people near him that were spied on. It was up to 25,000 people and probably included everyone in the Trump campaign and for sure included Trump himself.

The MSM does not highlight how huge the spying was.
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It has been stated that Obutthead administration spyed on up to 40,000 people!
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Fuck! Look at this shit! The surveillance would have included Trump's phone also.

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SIDNEY POWELL: And what most people don't understand is, they don't just get everything they want against Carter Page, they get everything they want against every person who communicated with Carter Page, and against every person who communicated with that person. So it goes out what's called two hops.

SHARYL ATTKISSON: And that would allow them to find intelligence from someone nowhere near the original center that they went to the FISA Court about?

SIDNEY POWELL: Exactly. They could have all kinds of banking records and personal information on tens of thousands of people by virtue of those FISA applications.

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That's some REALLY SCARY STUFF™, especially when you realize it was obtained via a BOGUS warrant!
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My understanding is that it does indeed allow them to spy on people connected to the target.
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I remember reading something about that. If I remember correctly, it allowed them to spy on contacts several layers deep! If you were the target, they could spy on you, anybody communicating with you, and anybody communicating with those people. So, by having a bogus FISA warrant to go after Page, it was pretty much open season on everybody in the Trump camp -- including Trump himself!
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thiss

Everyone should know about this. I think most people assume it was just Carter Page or a limited number of people near him that were spied on. It was up to 25,000 people and probably included everyone in the Trump campaign and for sure included Trump himself.

The MSM does not highlight how huge the spying was.
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Certainly all meta data phone records were scooped up several layers deep with a FISA warrant.

What I think is most distressing is that Page claims to have been an " asset" as early as 2014 for both CIA and FBI. So the only reason to get a FISA warrant would be to spy on the rest of the campaign.The "asset" is essentially an agent.
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Why would they still renew warrants for Carter Page in 2017 when he was not even part of the Trump administration? There could not have been any valuable information from just Carter Page at the time of the renewals? Yet the FBI falsified documents and lied to the FISA court to get these renewals. So they must have seen great value in keeping the FISA warrants open. They really wanted these for some reason. Which begs the question, did the Carter Page FISA warrant allow them to spy on several other Trump officials who had contact with Carter Page in the past?

:fucky:
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They needed it to justify the timeframe when they were ‘illegally’ spying without a warrant. When they got the FISA, it’s retroactive - which covered the timeframe they didn’t have the warrant.

That’s the BIG takeaway here as Nunes keeps saying:

Spying started before FISA
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The continuance was to entrap Trump or anyone anywhere on anything.
It was sent to Mueller to comb through.
Part of the insurance policy.
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How could they entrap Trump is the FISA warrant only allowed them to spy on Carter Page? He had little or no contact with the new Trump administration. The FISA warrant must have allowed them to spy on more than just Page. A nose in the tent in other words.
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The FISA warrant allows them to investigate anyone 2 hops away from the target. This means if you are the target and talk to person A, person A talks to person B, then FBI can investigate A and B as well.
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Fuck! Look at this shit! The surveillance would have included Trump's phone also.

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SIDNEY POWELL: And what most people don't understand is, they don't just get everything they want against Carter Page, they get everything they want against every person who communicated with Carter Page, and against every person who communicated with that person. So it goes out what's called two hops.

SHARYL ATTKISSON: And that would allow them to find intelligence from someone nowhere near the original center that they went to the FISA Court about?

SIDNEY POWELL: Exactly. They could have all kinds of banking records and personal information on tens of thousands of people by virtue of those FISA applications.

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Yes. It allows them to get emails, phone calls and tap their home.
It’s also retroactive. I don’t know the exact length of time it goes back —7years? Who knows. But yes- it’s been reported as the two hop rule which is limitless.
They store everyone’s phone calls so when fisa was approved, they give the dates they want. Data is constantly being stored and ready to be handed over on anyone & everyone at any given time.
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They spied on all campaigns.
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What I think is most distressing is that Page claims to have been an " asset" as early as 2014 for both CIA and FBI. So the only reason to get a FISA warrant would be to spy on the rest of the campaign.The "asset" is essentially an agent.
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The very fact that this did not raise a sea of "red flags" suggests that this is the FBI's usual method of spying. They send in an informant/asset of an American or British intelligence agency, secure a FISA warrant on that person, and thereby spy on tens of thousands of people.
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There is a lot of wink wink nod nod

Type talk taking place

That's the most discouraging part about it all
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And, how many were paranoid or suicidal during this surveillance?
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My understanding is that it does indeed allow them to spy on people connected to the target.
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I remember reading something about that. If I remember correctly, it allowed them to spy on contacts several layers deep! If you were the target, they could spy on you, anybody communicating with you, and anybody communicating with those people. So, by having a bogus FISA warrant to go after Page, it was pretty much open season on everybody in the Trump camp -- including Trump himself!
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thiss

Everyone should know about this. I think most people assume it was just Carter Page or a limited number of people near him that were spied on. It was up to 25,000 people and probably included everyone in the Trump campaign and for sure included Trump himself.

The MSM does not highlight how huge the spying was.
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Certainly all meta data phone records were scooped up several layers deep with a FISA warrant.

What I think is most distressing is that Page claims to have been an " asset" as early as 2014 for both CIA and FBI. So the only reason to get a FISA warrant would be to spy on the rest of the campaign.The "asset" is essentially an agent.
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According to the report. The FBI knew Page was a CIA asset and hid it from the FISA court. Actually tampered with and email that showed he was an asset.
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This link is very interesting. Asks the same question in the sense of what was the justification for Mueller to SEIZE the Trump transition team computers & phone records since Carter had already left the campaign. (Rosenstein would’ve had to have given authority in a scope memo which the DOJ won’t release).

Most of us were under the impression they had a fisa out on Papa, Manafort & Flynn which would’ve justified above. Today Horowitz said they only found one fisa which was on Carter.
The counter Intel description in link shows they had a CI on all four members so they were spying on three outside of fisa.



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look the Patriots used the republicans very tools of the Patriot act against them.

they sign the Patriot law into act, they ordered a shit sandwich, now they have to EAT IT
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"The Patriots used...."?

Labeling a bunch of sleazy, America-goddamning liberals/leftists/progressives/Socialists/Communists as "patriots"?

Good sarcasm.

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I’m not even hating but who cares? It’s over. Nothing will happen or come of it. You are wasting your life on this shit.
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Shill.
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Electronic surveillance on the whole transition team before and after election. Never in the history of this Nation, so much corruption and deceit.
And most of it CIA propelled. Like putting their own Rabbit in there and saying...nope we don’t know him, chase that bugger and all his contacts.
Except Carter Page never even met President Trump.......
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Electronic surveillance on the whole transition team before and after election. Never in the history of this Nation, so much corruption and deceit.
And most of it CIA propelled. Like putting their own Rabbit in there and saying...nope we don’t know him, chase that bugger and all his contacts.
Except Carter Page never even met President Trump.......
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Then they redacted Halper's name from the IG report.

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