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Iowa Man gets 15 years for burning LGBTQ Flag

 
Anonymous Coward
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If only Trump were President so he could stop this unconstitutional tyranny.....
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same here with the conservatives, they have done nothing to repeal the 'thought' crime laws here either
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12/19/2019 12:12 PM
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We will free them when we turn America around into the right direction!
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12/19/2019 12:13 PM
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It is actually okay to hate gays, though.
It is okay to like gays, of course. But trying to force people to respect something they did not like in the first place is only going to cause more tension and anger.

Actually, I have much, much less respect for the 'pride' movement ever since they made a cult out of it and tried to shove their dildos down everybody's throats. And I started out as 'tolerant' and 'open minded' to the idea that people just 'wanted to be.' It turns out, groups hardly ever 'want to be.' Not groups who rely on needing to shock and to make proving points constantly, anyway. "look at me! look at me!"
People getting in your way of your own life so constantly to say 'look at me! Respect me! worship me!--- Why aren't you looking at me, respecting me and worshipping me! Bigot, sexist!" Yeah, you start to loathe them and question their intelligence after a while.
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This will be thrown out. Flag burning is free speech. Already ruled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78125628


I suppose that you're OK with anyone coming onto your property and burning whatever flag you choose to display then...

There is a difference between burning a flag that is the possession of another on another's property and burning a flag that one is in sole possession of on one's own private or public property.
 Quoting: deafcat


Agreed. The main problem here is that he trespassed and stole someone else's property, not that he burned a flag. If he wanted to make this statement, he should have bought his own rainbow flag and burned it.

That said, they really threw the book at this guy and most likely would not have applied the same treatment if it had been, say an Antifa stealing a POW flag off a VFW hall. Petty theft is not a crime deserving of 15 years, and burning a flag shouldn't really be considered arson unless he burned it indoors somewhere. Do we know where he set the flag on fire? My guess is adding the hate crime designation to it is what allowed them to get such an unusual sentence for otherwise minor crimes.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who tresspass against us.

hell in Europe for centuries there was no such thing as 'tresspassing', everyman's right. people are allowed to walk across your property you know if they need to , you cannot use property lines to encumber a person's right to move about or go somewhere, that's in the constitution
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12/19/2019 12:14 PM
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One day all this nonsense will be history.

Amazing how everything adds up to "20/20 is hindsight."
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The only rainbow flag that is equally respected in Israel, Lebanon,Jordan, and Syria. The flag of the Druze.

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if your right to property does not take precedence, over anothers right to get to the store or wherever he needs to go, then it surely does not take precedence over more important needs, like food, medical care, sleep, shelter

in other words, if a homeless person is dying in the cold, he has a right to enter your home and take shelter, you have no right to deny him food or shelter.
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12/19/2019 12:15 PM
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Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson and given a year for reckless use of explosives or fire and 30 days for harassment. The sentences are to be served consecutively, Story County court records said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78265955


There were no explosives. This was not a violent crime.

He removed a flag at a church and burned it in protest.

Had he lit the church on fire with people inside, the sentence would have been justified.
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


People just need to be honest about their political motivations and biases.

I admit I'm of the right and would have been way more disgusted if the guy had grabbed a church's US flag and burned it. But even I'd say that punishment of 15 years was bullshit. In that case, I'd have to admit such a sentence would be rightwing bullshit.

Then again, since people of the right tend to be motivated by common sense and ethics way more than what influences people of the left, I doubt if such a conservative overreach will ever occur.

By contrast, I'm fully aware of the mini-Stalins, mini-Maos and mini-Castros/Maduros of a society.

I'm fairly sure any judge or jury giving 15 years for burning a flag that often is used in sex-freak parades (otherwise known as Gay Pride events) is getting their mini-Stalin, mini-Mao, mini-Maduro freak on.

By the way, speaking of leftism and leftists, Adolph Hitler was a homosexual and originally into art and painting. Animal rights too.

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12/19/2019 12:17 PM
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Counter attack! Sue the judge personally. 15 years for trespassing and vandalism means the judge HATES YOU! Charge the judge with a Hate Crime. Does the judge have a name? What if he burned a pedophile flag?
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12/19/2019 12:22 PM
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This will be thrown out. Flag burning is free speech. Already ruled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78125628


Not in Illinois. You can be arrested for that, but I think it's free speech too.
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Petty theft and/or simple vandalism -at best.
Jail the filthy judge and prosecutors.
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What would Jesus had done if he were to witness a sodomite celebration flag on his holy house?

Sodom and Gomorrah is a clue. Look it up.
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You're dealing with a cess pool of GMO Masons and bread bags from Iowa.... And who did Trump appoint for the ambassador to China...That's right another MASON former governor of Iowa... EMBARRASSING!

The Grand Cross is the highest honor for a 33rd degree Mason. Brother Harshbarger joins Senator Charles Grassley as the only Iowa Masons to currently hold this honor.





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Published on Dec 8, 2016

Iowa governor terry Branstad is likely to become the next US ambassador to china, but he’ll have to leave any masonic symbols at home. Branstad is listed as a member of a chapter of the freemason group in Des Moines. The Freemasons group has been banned in mainland china for decades. Masonic groups generally run into trouble in Communist countries due to their secret meetings. Branstad accepted President-elect Donald Trump's job offer Wednesday, but he'll have to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate before taking the post.





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12/19/2019 12:29 PM
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A church of Christ with an LGBTQ flag flying at it?

Holy. Blasphemy.

Dont they even read the bible? Haha
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12/19/2019 12:32 PM
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Clown world. They allow drug addicts to shoot up in the street. Allow them to steal to keep their habit going. Then give 15 years for this BS.
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LOCK UP THE JUDGES AND PROSECUTORS!!!!
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This will be thrown out. Flag burning is free speech. Already ruled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78125628


I suppose that you're OK with anyone coming onto your property and burning whatever flag you choose to display then...

There is a difference between burning a flag that is the possession of another on another's property and burning a flag that one is in sole possession of on one's own private or public property.
 Quoting: deafcat


You can't seriously defend 15 f'ing years for that, can you? I've seen child molesters and the like get less time.

It's pure f'ing stupidty!
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It’s just so ridiculous that there’s an official flag for ass sex in the first place...
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It's for scissoring too!
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What the hell is going on here!
1. How come protestors can burn the AMERICAN flag?
2. 15 years? Rapists get a few years and this guy got 15 years for burning a flag? WHAT THE HELL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68224088


If you buy your own flag, you can burn it on your own property or elsewhere with permission, subject to local burn laws.

If you trespass and steal a flag from others, and burn it, you are guilty of criminal trespass and wanton destruction of others' property(vandalism). That much is easily understood by a normal elementary school student.

No doubt, this thing was claimed to be a "hate crime" too. That's more dubious and could account for the excessive sentence. Regardless, the perpetrator had unclean hands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78255970


True, he should be in trouble for destroying someone else's property, but 15 years is pure bullshit.

You can kill someone and get less time.
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12/19/2019 12:33 PM
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he should have gotten the chair !
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15 years? how is that possible?
I hope he appeals

wthm
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Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them
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He should appeal.

Iowa is ran by real idiots.

They actually reached out to get more diversity in their state.

Their crime stats prove it.

moe rons.
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he should have gotten the chair !
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Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them
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I know a man who murdered his wife and only served 10 years.
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One of these days someone with funds will pay for these peoples attorneys to fight the BS - injustice at it's worst.
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This will be thrown out. Flag burning is free speech. Already ruled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78125628


I suppose that you're OK with anyone coming onto your property and burning whatever flag you choose to display then...

There is a difference between burning a flag that is the possession of another on another's property and burning a flag that one is in sole possession of on one's own private or public property.
 Quoting: deafcat


REALLY!!! Is that the best you got?!?! Of course we don't have the right to take a flag owned by someone else on their property and destroy it. That is NOT the point! 15 YEARS! That's the point! I can absolutely promise and guarantee you that if a member of the LGBTQ community tore down a flag with a cross on it that was sitting on a Baptist church and burnt it, he would NOT get 15 years. This same court would probably even protect him under "free speech".
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15 years? What? AYY? How pathetic and embarrassing.
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Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson..for burning an LGBTQ flag that was flying at a church in central Iowa.

He's said he tore down the flag.. hanging from the United Church of Christ.. because he opposes homosexuality.


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So gays that burn the American flag aren't committing a hate crime?

How fucking backwards has our society become?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Not surprising. Ames just elected a 20 year old city counselor who's only platform is climate fascism. Write it off.

Last Edited by Depluribus Unum on 12/19/2019 01:03 PM
From many, covfefe
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Hate crime laws are bullshit. Crimes already have laws and penalties. Racking up more years because someone dislikes something is dumbassery.
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Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson and given a year for reckless use of explosives or fire and 30 days for harassment. The sentences are to be served consecutively, Story County court records said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78265955


There were no explosives. This was not a violent crime.

He removed a flag at a church and burned it in protest.

Had he lit the church on fire with people inside, the sentence would have been justified.
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Hell, the sentence would have been less!





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