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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
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If only we knew !!

If its going to be like this in the Western world its going to be bad!
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Exactly. It feels like too many decisions are being made to hold off panic for as long as possible. The only legitimate reasons to do this, are to buy time to find the best treatment or treatments, organise the most effective strategy for keeping social cohesion in the best condition and for continuity of government planning.
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One of the worst jobs on the planet right now. Taxi Driver , besides medical practitioners.
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UBER and LIFT drivers will be NEXT in the USA.

Just you wait and see. Shit is hitting the fucking fan.
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dam - clicked post before I said this: NO, I read someplace that the pneumonia started in September, actually.

Also, would love some good keywords for re.dd- ..it

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I suspected this too. That it happened back then already, It may not have mutated into something lethal there yet. Hence when it was in the lab it may have been considered low risk.
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"The minister also confirmed that the woman was the mother-in-law of a Tokyo taxi driver in his 70s who had tested positive for the virus."

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Sustained human to human. We know this. It IS a pandemic. The WHO definition of sustained human to human at the local level in two or more continents outside the initial is going be mean action is taken (perhaps that action IS being taken outside the public arena) too late.

If I was running a government, I would be classifying everything I could to buy time.
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Are you a remote viewer or some Taliban/ISIS reject on someone's wifi???

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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
 Quoting: VQC


If there are that many infected and dead in China and so little dead outside of China then it has to be a targeted bioweapon. There is no way you can contain a death count like that just inside one area. We are too connected for that to happen. There must be something that we still don't know about this incident.
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It may seem like that, except this started at the end of November and has taken three months of 3 week (overlapping) phase cycles to get to that. It only started to spread abroad a month ago. This is exponential and the rest of the world is on the flat bit just before the hockey stick.

Deaths will start pouring in overseas from roughly week 5 for those infections that BEGAN abroad. This is just beginning.
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Its been said before in here that this is a long burner. Pandemics by their nature are. The films give us a false impression.

We are at the stage were 1000s of people in the Western world are walking around spreading it to others who are then walking around spreading it. Eventually the EDs will fill up and the army will be on the streets.
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One of the worst jobs on the planet right now. Taxi Driver , besides medical practitioners.
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UBER and LIFT drivers will be NEXT in the USA.

Just you wait and see. Shit is hitting the fucking fan.
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yes, thats what im doing, I recon taxi drivers will get hit hard the fastest, so when I see the taxi rank behind my house getting more empty, I know its getting wild here.
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Chinese insiders (from 4plebs from halfchan)...

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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
 Quoting: VQC


If there are that many infected and dead in China and so little dead outside of China then it has to be a targeted bioweapon. There is no way you can contain a death count like that just inside one area. We are too connected for that to happen. There must be something that we still don't know about this incident.
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It may seem like that, except this started at the end of November and has taken three months of 3 week (overlapping) phase cycles to get to that. It only started to spread abroad a month ago. This is exponential and the rest of the world is on the flat bit just before the hockey stick.

Deaths will start pouring in overseas from roughly week 5 for those infections that BEGAN abroad. This is just beginning.
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One of Britain's nine confirmed coronavirus cases attended a Westminster bus conference yards from Parliament before falling ill 72 hours later, it was revealed today.

The virus-carrier was reportedly one of 250 delegates at the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Centre on February 6, whose star speaker was Boris Johnson's Buses Minister, Baroness Vere of Norbiton.

MailOnline understands the coronavirus patient who attended the conference was not the ninth case – a Chinese woman who took an Uber to A&E at Lewisham Hospital in south London on Sunday night.

The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.


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Chinese insiders (from 4plebs from halfchan)...

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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
 Quoting: VQC


If there are that many infected and dead in China and so little dead outside of China then it has to be a targeted bioweapon. There is no way you can contain a death count like that just inside one area. We are too connected for that to happen. There must be something that we still don't know about this incident.
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i agree.

my best WAG is that the initial release targeted Asians and was shockingly lethal to sow panic but deprecated out in each generation. i have no idea if that is possible, biology-wise.

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Chinese insiders (from 4plebs from halfchan)...

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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
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If only we knew !!

If its going to be like this in the Western world its going to be bad!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Exactly. It feels like too many decisions are being made to hold off panic for as long as possible. The only legitimate reasons to do this, are to buy time to find the best treatment or treatments, organise the most effective strategy for keeping social cohesion in the best condition and for continuity of government planning.
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I think this is 100% whats going on.

They know its here, they know they cant do a dam thing about it.

If they tell everyone it would just result in pure panic and riots.

Better to hide it for as long as possible and keep the $$$ coming in than cause the country's to panic.

If its as bad as we think it is they are going to need them $$$
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One of Britain's nine confirmed coronavirus cases attended a Westminster bus conference yards from Parliament before falling ill 72 hours later, it was revealed today.

The virus-carrier was reportedly one of 250 delegates at the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Centre on February 6, whose star speaker was Boris Johnson's Buses Minister, Baroness Vere of Norbiton.

MailOnline understands the coronavirus patient who attended the conference was not the ninth case – a Chinese woman who took an Uber to A&E at Lewisham Hospital in south London on Sunday night.

The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.


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Panic starts....

Last night it emerged that more than 750 British patients were tested for coronavirus in one day as panic over the outbreak intensified across the country.

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I only had time to watch the first 10 mins.

I really do feel for them but it’s just a very unfortunate situation.

Rather unfair to throw Branson’s name in the mix but I do understand the frustration is feeling like desperation now.

This chap on the vids seems very pragmatic & fair. However, this is ‘potentially’ a huge global problem & just needs to run it’s course (I won’t be getting the popularity vote today).

I think these poor buggers on this ship should be entitled to a free cruise each year for the next 5 years as a form of compensation, a small gesture but a goodwill gesture if nothing else.

Lots of dynamics in the mix here, the operator having issues with the Japanese authorities, the WHO advisories, not to mention what the ‘international’ situation is regarding maritime when this ship is not docked.

Japan is in panic, the Olympics are only a few months away & in serious jeopardy, I know that seems menial as it’s only sport but we are talking about a fragile economy & entire careers.

My heart goes out to them but it’s simply a case of sitting it out. Keep them well fed, well treated & start sorting some type of compensation for the future, goodness knows who will pay for that.

But as for Mr. Branson, he simply can not get involved in a ‘emergency type evacuation’, even if he did jump through hoops to have it permitted.

To many non mitigable risks at this time, we still don’t know very much about this virus.

If CORVID 19 turns out to be more of a killer than it currently is then can you imagine the implications of a spread as a result of such evacuation. Not to mention the fact the ‘moral’ & ‘ethical’ implications of such a risk.

The question here is really........ “If you were Branson, would YOU?”
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damned
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We should be able to make a range of estimates of the number of infected in a country, from the original to outbreaks elsewhere using some variables...

R0 - the number of people you will infect
Inc - the average incubation before infection (not symptoms but infection)

Setting the R0 at 14 and the Inc at 15 days.

Start 1
End of Month 1 = 196
End of Month 2 = 38,416
End of Month 3 = 7,529,536

Assuming December 1st, China should be in the middle of Month 3, which is what we seem to be seeing.

Once cases hit 20, you may want to assume they are at the end of Month 1 (assuming 5% detection)

This appears to be a rough approximation to what we are seeing.

Even if somewhat off, it explains why we aren't seeing huge problems elsewhere yet but that it should snowball quite quickly in four weeks from a low threshold of cases.

Most countries reporting outside of China are probably approaching the end of the first month.

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The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
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The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

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All attendees at the UK Bus Summit have been emailed warning them that someone at the summit had the killer disease, according to the Financial Times.
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The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

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All attendees at the UK Bus Summit have been emailed warning them that someone at the summit had the killer disease, according to the Financial Times.

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#BREAKING Spreader in Uk could have infected Prime Minister Boris Johnson as he was partecipating at the same meeting in westminster. 250 delegate attended at BUS Summit on feb 6.

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We should be able to make a range of estimates of the number of infected in a country, from the original to outbreaks elsewhere using some variables...

R0 - the number of people you will infect
Inc - the average incubation before infection (not symptoms but infection)

Setting the R0 at 14 and the Inc at 15 days.

Start 1
End of Month 1 = 196
End of Month 2 = 38,416
End of Month 3 = 7,529,536

Assuming December 1st, China should be in the middle of Month 3, which is what we seem to be seeing.

Once cases hit 20, you may want to assume they are at the end of Month 1 (assuming 5% detection)

This appears to be a rough approximation to what we are seeing.

Even if somewhat off, it explains why we aren't seeing huge problems elsewhere yet but that it should snowball quite quickly in four weeks from a low threshold of cases.

Most countries reporting outside of China are probably approaching the end of the first month.
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very possible
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Coronavirus in Westminster: Infected patient went to bus conference attended by 250 people including MPs and chief executives
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The patient's presence in central London at a packed conference will spark fears among the hundreds of people there from the transport industry amid growing public anxiety about the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

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All attendees at the UK Bus Summit have been emailed warning them that someone at the summit had the killer disease, according to the Financial Times.

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@2019ncovN

#BREAKING Spreader in Uk could have infected Prime Minister Boris Johnson as he was partecipating at the same meeting in westminster. 250 delegate attended at BUS Summit on feb 6.

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This is like a movie..
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Estimate from this must be: 250k - 500k dead.

Between 3 and 6 million infected.

That sounds a lot more believable based on the actions of the Chinese government.
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If there are that many infected and dead in China and so little dead outside of China then it has to be a targeted bioweapon. There is no way you can contain a death count like that just inside one area. We are too connected for that to happen. There must be something that we still don't know about this incident.
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It may seem like that, except this started at the end of November and has taken three months of 3 week (overlapping) phase cycles to get to that. It only started to spread abroad a month ago. This is exponential and the rest of the world is on the flat bit just before the hockey stick.

Deaths will start pouring in overseas from roughly week 5 for those infections that BEGAN abroad. This is just beginning.
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This is pretty close to my analysis of it, although even 3 weeks may be too short for cycle length.

We are seeing fatalities now in some cases that went symptomatic in mid/late January, while other people have much faster progressions.

That huge time lag could be creating an illusion that this is less severe outside China. We won't really know for a couple of weeks on the fatality side.
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this started from eating Bats ? they eat weird stuff in china and if they continue eating weird s#it it could happen again.
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Coronavirus in Westminster: Infected Chinese woman went to bus conference attended by 250 people including MPs and chief executives 

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MPs and CEOs? At least if there weren't any actual bus drivers present then even if they all caught nCoV it wouldn't actually have any impact on the real world.
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Screaming out for Help Off The Ship!

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I only had time to watch the first 10 mins.

I really do feel for them but it’s just a very unfortunate situation.

Rather unfair to throw Branson’s name in the mix but I do understand the frustration is feeling like desperation now.

This chap on the vids seems very pragmatic & fair. However, this is ‘potentially’ a huge global problem & just needs to run it’s course (I won’t be getting the popularity vote today).

I think these poor buggers on this ship should be entitled to a free cruise each year for the next 5 years as a form of compensation, a small gesture but a goodwill gesture if nothing else.


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Sorry, pretty sure those on the ship now, will never ever want to be on a ship again. Assuming you weren't being cheeky with you comment.

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You may be right, I may be crazy.
But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for...
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this started from eating Bats ? they eat weird stuff in china and if they continue eating weird s#it it could happen again.
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yes....they like to eat bat and consider it a delicacy

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