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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78238428 Brazil 02/20/2020 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it hard to believe that India has had only 3 cases for almost 2 weeks and it hasn't spread. Quoting: Storm2come [link to bnonews.com (secure)] Like OP says, places like India, Africa, and other places aren't even testing. I don't know for sure, but I think it may have something to do with the weather. Coronavirus is not flu, but it probably prefers cold weather. India is reasonably hot at this time of year, Africa even more, so as South America. Probably the countries with the warmest climate will have a stronger attack of the virus in the winter. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] |
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Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 24761162 United States 02/20/2020 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it hard to believe that India has had only 3 cases for almost 2 weeks and it hasn't spread. Quoting: Storm2come [link to bnonews.com (secure)] Like OP says, places like India, Africa, and other places aren't even testing. I don't know for sure, but I think it may have something to do with the weather. Coronavirus is not flu, but it probably prefers cold weather. India is reasonably hot at this time of year, Africa even more, so as South America. Probably the countries with the warmest climate will have a stronger attack of the virus in the winter. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] I don't know, the weather in Hong Kong ,and New Delhi are about the same. Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
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Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 24761162 United States 02/20/2020 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So guys, i just wanna point out a couple things, It’s not like he missed this by a couple thousand or a couple hundred thousand his models are many orders of magnitude over exaggerated compared to actual cases outside of trainer in other words udder bullshit... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057 Zero White Deaths A few dozen cases outside g...k shitholes.... Nothing burger You must not have seen my post last night on page 67, there are 7395 cases in the USA alone, it is spreading and doesn't care about race. Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
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User ID: 78448385 Mexico 02/21/2020 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for that, this should put to rest the "No deaths in the Diamond Princess" myth. Anyway, 2 people that were cleared from the Diamond Princess Quarantine as CV free, and later were released from a military facility upon arrival to the USA, guess what? Now are in a hospital in Napa Valley County with confirmed Covid-19. [link to patch.com (secure)] According with Chris Matterson there are another 27 cruise passengers in critical condition [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by TIO JUAN on 02/21/2020 01:06 AM UNCLE JOHN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78238428 Brazil 02/21/2020 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So guys, i just wanna point out a couple things, It’s not like he missed this by a couple thousand or a couple hundred thousand his models are many orders of magnitude over exaggerated compared to actual cases outside of trainer in other words udder bullshit... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057 Zero White Deaths A few dozen cases outside g...k shitholes.... Nothing burger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78090287 United States 02/21/2020 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Information has been clamped down all over the World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78420351 How do we know how many deaths there are in any location if they are slapping gag orders on people and MSM is just saying what they are told to say? There is disinformation flying around everywhere. All we can go by is local observable conditions. Watch for Hospitals reaching capacity levels. Only time will tell what is really going on. Truth wins out. |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out zerohedge article. It looks like your spot on your model. Quoting: gebahie [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Diamond Princess ship was a real eye opener, but it is not a sample that can be extrapolated to a model. However, it can be applied to cluster outbreaks, such as the church cluster in Daegu, South Korea. I expect 200+ cases in Daegu church alone to be confirmed by the end of the week (February 23rd), with dozens more that are indirectly related to the church. South Korea should have around 300 confirmed cases by week's end. If this is the case, expect all future clusters to follow a 20-25% infection rate. |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it hard to believe that India has had only 3 cases for almost 2 weeks and it hasn't spread. Quoting: Storm2come [link to bnonews.com (secure)] Like OP says, places like India, Africa, and other places aren't even testing. The U.S. and Europe are in the same boat : they aren't testing people, but for other reasons, not lack of testing kits, like India and Africa. The U.S. and Europe are buying time, essential time that is needed to prepare for the outbreaks, which are less than 2 weeks away. The U.S. and European governments are avoiding testing, using the flu season and the 85%-ish of the CV19 cases to be mild or asymptomatic, to hide the real numbers, to postpone panic...in order to buy time. But this is not going to fly for much longer. |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE (with a reply to my own post earlier) : Check out zerohedge article. It looks like your spot on your model. Quoting: gebahie [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Diamond Princess ship was a real eye opener, but it is not a sample that can be extrapolated to a model. However, it can be applied to cluster outbreaks, such as the church cluster in Daegu, South Korea. I expect 200+ cases in Daegu church alone to be confirmed by the end of the week (February 23rd), with dozens more that are indirectly related to the church. South Korea should have around 300 confirmed cases by week's end. If this is the case, expect all future clusters to follow a 20-25% infection rate. 48 more cases in South Korea. Total now at 204. This is going to confirm the Diamond Princess infection rate. It's bad. Clusters will explode, and with a 20% primary infection rate, 60% of the world population will get the virus. Experts are, sadly, right on this. All governments are now preparing for a single goal : preserve social integrity, because the pandemic was, from the start, impossible to contain, unless drastic measures were to be implemented...but weren't. The measures are the ones I called for by February 5th : full border closing in all nations and full stop of all transportation between nations : flights, trains, boats. They (the governments) took a bet, on this being a nothing burger...and they lost. We all lost. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 06:01 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE : Italy report 2 new cases, 1 in critical condition, a 39 year old Italian. 60 people who had contact with the 39 year old Italian are placed under quarantine, and will be tested. According to the infection rate on Diamond Princess and South Korean cult church, Italy should confirm roughly 20% of those 60 in quarantine, which is 12 cases. Could be less, like 9 or 10, but it will still be close to the 20% cluster infection rate. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 06:01 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE : Quoting: deplorable recollector Italy report 2 new cases, 1 in critical condition, a 39 year old Italian. 60 people who had contact with the 39 year old Italian are placed under quarantine, and will be tested. According to the infection rate on Diamond Princess and South Korean cult church, Italy should confirm roughly 20% of those 60 in quarantine, which is 12 cases. Could be less, like 9 or 10, but it will still be close to the 20% cluster infection rate. 2 more cases confirmed in Milan. Authorities are asking citizens from 2 towns close to Milan to stay indoors to prevent the spread of the virus. 7 cases in Genoa undertaking deep investigations. Most likely they tested positive in preliminary tests. A press release will take place in Genoa at 17:30 local time (16:30 GMT). Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 06:23 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78504798 Italy 02/21/2020 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do you think about this? [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] and this is not the only case in these days |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do you think about this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78504798 [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] and this is not the only case in these days It's probably a death not related to virus. Sometimes it happens even to very young people. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 06:27 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78504798 Italy 02/21/2020 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do you think about this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78504798 [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] and this is not the only case in these days It's probably a death not related to virus. Sometimes it happens even to very young people. thanks anyway on the same day [link to palermo.repubblica.it (secure)] and two days ago [link to roma.repubblica.it (secure)] death cause unknown in all cases i don't know what to think |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78504857 Italy 02/21/2020 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE : Quoting: deplorable recollector Italy report 2 new cases, 1 in critical condition, a 39 year old Italian. 60 people who had contact with the 39 year old Italian are placed under quarantine, and will be tested. According to the infection rate on Diamond Princess and South Korean cult church, Italy should confirm roughly 20% of those 60 in quarantine, which is 12 cases. Could be less, like 9 or 10, but it will still be close to the 20% cluster infection rate. 2 more cases confirmed in Milan. Authorities are asking citizens from 2 towns close to Milan to stay indoors to prevent the spread of the virus. 7 cases in Genoa undertaking deep investigations. Most likely they tested positive in preliminary tests. A press release will take place in Genoa at 17:30 local time (16:30 GMT). Update: 6 cases confirmed now |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE : Quoting: deplorable recollector Italy report 2 new cases, 1 in critical condition, a 39 year old Italian. 60 people who had contact with the 39 year old Italian are placed under quarantine, and will be tested. According to the infection rate on Diamond Princess and South Korean cult church, Italy should confirm roughly 20% of those 60 in quarantine, which is 12 cases. Could be less, like 9 or 10, but it will still be close to the 20% cluster infection rate. 2 more cases confirmed in Milan. Authorities are asking citizens from 2 towns close to Milan to stay indoors to prevent the spread of the virus. 7 cases in Genoa undertaking deep investigations. Most likely they tested positive in preliminary tests. A press release will take place in Genoa at 17:30 local time (16:30 GMT). Update: 6 cases confirmed now 9 confirmed now. By the end of the week will be 50+ in Italy. It will follow the cluster growth in South Korea. Most likely 6-8 more cases will be announced today, or 12, if the Genoa cluster is confirmed. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 07:00 AM |
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User ID: 70064350 Canada 02/21/2020 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never post here but for this thread will make an exception. This is one of the most important threads ever to come out of this website and should be permapinned. Thank you for your work on this op. I would bet that it is also being followed by tptb as well. Doesn’t seem like it’s getting much traction here overall. My guess is also by about the first to second week of March it will be clear that this thing is getting serious. |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never post here but for this thread will make an exception. This is one of the most important threads ever to come out of this website and should be permapinned. Thank you for your work on this op. I would bet that it is also being followed by tptb as well. Doesn’t seem like it’s getting much traction here overall. My guess is also by about the first to second week of March it will be clear that this thing is getting serious. Quoting: J0nx Thank you. This thread was perma pinned and it will be again, if it delivers. Lady Jane Smith is following the thread, and she will pin it if she thinks it needs to be pinned. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 07:05 AM |
mr. jingles
User ID: 72142326 United States 02/21/2020 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP south korea exploded to 208 cases last night China is reporting people who recovered are having another infection Iran is ballooning at the same pace as south korea. They both had just over 100 cases mid day yesterday. I dont see any updates about iran yet though Edit: 208 cases in sk, not 500 Last Edited by mr. jingles on 02/21/2020 12:26 PM mr. jingles |
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User ID: 77578604 United States 02/21/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China's Next Move - Don't be surprised to see China close its stock market due to "technical difficulties" or some other bogus excuse and say it will reopen in 3-5 days. It will never reopen. At least until this virus gets under control........interesting times for certain. Stay safe. IdeaMan1624 |
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User ID: 72142326 United States 02/21/2020 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Virus on its way to full blown pandemic in japan Last Edited by mr. jingles on 02/21/2020 10:11 AM mr. jingles |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 02/21/2020 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, on your Main Page Update, you wrote: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258 The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light. If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that the range of infection to watch for was 800-1000 outside China by Feb 15/16 (I may be confusing the information, so my apologies). Based on your revised dates, does the 800-1000 number still apply? Would you be kind enough to expand on this revised “critical period” please, and what we are watching for. Thanks in advance. . Excellent Question! I hope the OP provides an answer. |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/21/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, on your Main Page Update, you wrote: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258 The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light. If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that the range of infection to watch for was 800-1000 outside China by Feb 15/16 (I may be confusing the information, so my apologies). Based on your revised dates, does the 800-1000 number still apply? Would you be kind enough to expand on this revised “critical period” please, and what we are watching for. Thanks in advance. . Excellent Question! I hope the OP provides an answer. My old model was based on a scientific model that was, at the date, used by every single epidemiologist. My old model was scrapped because the targeted 800-1,000 cases did not took place when I expected them to. And no wonder, since the latest data, also from all epidemiologists, was adjusted...so I adjusted my model as well. The old model critical period failed to deliver, but not by much. About 40%, or 10-12 days. The new model is much more stronger, and it is optimistic, could fail, in the other way, by couple days. If it's a bigger margin, like 6 days (regardless if it's +6 or -6 days), I will adjust the model again. But, as it is right now...the current model is holding strong, after almost 10 days, with almost no error. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/21/2020 10:26 AM |
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User ID: 4141071 United States 02/21/2020 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So... Wait! Wait! Wait! Now they have to be white americans for it to be real. What's next? White americans from Montana? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10319574 United States 02/21/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, on your Main Page Update, you wrote: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258 The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light. If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that the range of infection to watch for was 800-1000 outside China by Feb 15/16 (I may be confusing the information, so my apologies). Based on your revised dates, does the 800-1000 number still apply? Would you be kind enough to expand on this revised “critical period” please, and what we are watching for. Thanks in advance. . Excellent Question! I hope the OP provides an answer. My old model was based on a scientific model that was, at the date, used by every single epidemiologist. My old model was scrapped because the targeted 800-1,000 cases did not took place when I expected them to. And no wonder, since the latest data, also from all epidemiologists, was adjusted...so I adjusted my model as well. The old model critical period failed to deliver, but not by much. About 40%, or 10-12 days. The new model is much more stronger, and it is optimistic, could fail, in the other way, by couple days. If it's a bigger margin, like 6 days (regardless if it's +6 or -6 days), I will adjust the model again. But, as it is right now...the current model is holding strong, after almost 10 days, with almost no error. At the point we have around 40,000 symptomatic cases in the US, most of us will know of it through our friends and contacts. Posters here on GLP do not count. It has to be within 3 degrees of separation from yourself. That is a warning to bug-in long-term. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 02/21/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, on your Main Page Update, you wrote: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258 The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light. If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that the range of infection to watch for was 800-1000 outside China by Feb 15/16 (I may be confusing the information, so my apologies). Based on your revised dates, does the 800-1000 number still apply? Would you be kind enough to expand on this revised “critical period” please, and what we are watching for. Thanks in advance. . Excellent Question! I hope the OP provides an answer. My old model was based on a scientific model that was, at the date, used by every single epidemiologist. My old model was scrapped because the targeted 800-1,000 cases did not took place when I expected them to. And no wonder, since the latest data, also from all epidemiologists, was adjusted...so I adjusted my model as well. The old model critical period failed to deliver, but not by much. About 40%, or 10-12 days. The new model is much more stronger, and it is optimistic, could fail, in the other way, by couple days. If it's a bigger margin, like 6 days (regardless if it's +6 or -6 days), I will adjust the model again. But, as it is right now...the current model is holding strong, after almost 10 days, with almost no error. GREAT WORK...KEEP IT UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78238428 Brazil 02/21/2020 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP south korea exploded to 500 cases last night Quoting: mr. jingles China is reporting people who recovered are having another infection Iran is ballooning at the same pace as south korea. They both had just over 100 cases mid day yesterday. I dont see any updates about iran yet though 500 cases in South Korea? What's the source? My sources tell 208 cases. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78238428 Brazil 02/21/2020 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So... Wait! Wait! Wait! Now they have to be white americans for it to be real. What's next? White americans from Montana? Yes, white americans from Montana, anglo-saxon descents and lutherans. Otherwise it's all fake! Hahah. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 02/21/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My old model was based on a scientific model that was, at the date, used by every single epidemiologist. Quoting: deplorable recollector My old model was scrapped because the targeted 800-1,000 cases did not took place when I expected them to. And no wonder, since the latest data, also from all epidemiologists, was adjusted...so I adjusted my model as well. The old model critical period failed to deliver, but not by much. About 40%, or 10-12 days. The new model is much more stronger, and it is optimistic, could fail, in the other way, by couple days. If it's a bigger margin, like 6 days (regardless if it's +6 or -6 days), I will adjust the model again. But, as it is right now...the current model is holding strong, after almost 10 days, with almost no error. I dont think its failing. They arent releasing correct or truthful numbers on the global scale. So your model is probably correct. If you take their numbers and keep adjusting your model to fit their fake numbers it will eventually become inaccurate (which is what they want). |