CORONAVIRUS: Just when you think you are safe!...

And thanks for the laugh, Oracle! That little "WAT?!" guy cracked me up!

Nope.

And thanks for the laugh, Oracle! That little "WAT?!" guy cracked me up!

You don’t quarantine 60 million people over the flu!

He always expresses one's FRUSTRATION the best.
It's better than that face-palm one! lol!



Take good care. Keep us posted on anything you find out
on all of this.


O'sCookie

you stole my wat meme.... not happy jan...



i wonder if crab man is still with us???

This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.

This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.

Wow this is a scary time to
Live in huh! I can tell you that 2 weeks ago I went to the dr with fever, congestion in chest and aches. I was tested for flu which was negative and given a steroid shot. A week later I had violent congestion with thick bloody mucus, serious chronic cough and high fever. I was so bad I couldn’t sleep or even lie down. I was talking mucinex, elderberry, calcium, vitamin c, and chicken broth. Last week i went back to doctor and tested for pneumonia. It was negative and I was told I had a severe respitory infection, given an inhaler, amoxicillin and cough medicine. It’s been 2 weeks now and I’m just now able to sleep lying down. I’ve hardly ever been sick my whole life and I can tell you this thing was a nightmare. The amoxicillin did kick it’s arse though. It was literally the longest most hellish sickness I’ve ever had.

Knoxville, tn. Just across the mountain from Asheville

4 not 3

And yes, Canada's health system is disgustingly negligent. They will do anything they can to save money in including minimizing a serious outbreak.

Its' priceless too because they all act so pompous like they are doing such a great job containing the virus. No, wrong, the people who came from china and brought it here did a good job by wearing a mask or by calling public health or by quarantining themselves. They did a good job, not public health !

Also public health has no clue about all the Chinese travellers here right now who have self quarantined and are at home sick.

I saw one Chinese man the other day with a mask on buying giant cardboard boxes, masks and tape. Not to mention, there are countless Chinese people coughing under their masks.

Canada public health denies asymptomatic spread while Germany and USA confirm it. Canada only hears what is convenient to their pocket books and always at the risk of patient and public safety.

There are probably many who have died of pneumonia and have not been tested because they don't fall under the current guidelines for testing.

The goal is not to spend money and Canada will risk the public health to do it

Plus, Canada always wants to look good, like they are the elite country, so they hide all their dirt.

WHO should be investigating Canada's dangerous systemic practises. They are dangerous. Bt this is socialized health care right? You get what you pay for don't you.

Let's be real, it was publically published, the HIV gene inserts. China is using HIV drugs to treat this. That's a soft admission imho.

So, there is a very real possibility this is a true to life bioweapon released.

It's ability to spread, a high R0, is from being engineered to spread.

I'm convinced this virus is also engineered to be very VERY lethal in later stages.

What's happening in China aligns with the bioweapon theory.



Guys, it's not officially declared but I'm no idiot and neither are many of you. A bioweapon WILL change the World if released and IT'S RELEASED!!!


3 to 5 weeks, prepare. If I'm wrong, THANK GOD I will kneel to our Creator and be ever so thankful for normal life as we know it. May we be spared a biblical catastrophe

The account below details a personal encounter I had today while at work. Sorry for the length but I am trying to process this while I recount it. I still can't believe it!

My husband and I have been camped out on the Coronavirus thread since third week of January when news of it first broke. We have watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter post before it got deleted. It prompted us to top off our preps, sit down with our teenage boys and have a talk and decide to avoid the public as much as possible. We live in a small town on the outskirts of Asheville in the mountains of Western North Carolina and felt like we were somewhat safe, same as many of you. That was...TIL TODAY!

My husband has taken this seriously enough to begin working from home but I can't do that yet. So today, I visited a local High School in Asheville as part of my job. While there, an older gentleman approached me and introduced himself. We shook hands and he proceeded to tell me that his only daughter had a former connection with my employer. I asked him what she is doing now and he said she works as a music teacher in Shanghai, China. That got my attention.

I asked him if she was reporting any news to him about this pandemic and he said he didn't know much about it to ask because our news wasn't making that big of a deal about it. He said all she knew about it was that she had just gotten back into China from a week-long trip to the UK to discover that her school was shut down until March so she and her husband (also a teacher in Shanghai) are just holed up in their apartment with their young son self-isolating like everyone else. So either their news isn't telling them much or she is downplaying it for her dad's sake (which is probably most likely). Either way, my heart goes out to him, his daughter and her family but I am still thinking I am safe.

Then he goes on to say that she and her husband and several people from her school in Shanghai had just flown to the UK on or about January 20th along with teachers from all over China (Wuhan, Beijing, etc.) for a global recruiting seminar to find job placement in other "Ambassador Schools" (I am convinced at this point that they were part of the group of around 2,000 from China that the UK are looking for). He said the Chinese principal from the school where his daughter works decided to stay an extra few days in the UK to tour and is now stuck in quarantine for two weeks and can't get back. His daughter and son-in-law got out just before the UK quarantine. I am very intrigued at this point because I had just been reading about the Chinese in the UK on GLP but so far, everything he is telling me is happening either in China or the UK. Sucks for them but I am still feeling confident that I am safe.

Now, mind you, I have not let on to him that I am somewhat of a self-proclaimed Coronavirus "expert".lol. Like most of you, I have lurked on the GLP CV thread and watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter feed posted out of China. I can hold my own in a conversation about this with my new working knowledge of RO levels, infectious rates of travel and virus incubation periods. I could probably even take and pass an exam on basic epidemiology after all the experts I have listened to on this subject in the past week. But with him and while at work, I am playing it cool.

I can tell he obviously has no idea of the importance of what he is telling me and I don't want to alarm him about the potential his only daughter and her family could be facing. I also get the impression he only knows what CNN and the MSM tell him so anything I say to the contrary wouldn't resonate with his normalcy bias anyway and I would just come across as a crazy person. You need time to ease people into discussions about what could very well be the end of the world as we know it and I didn't have alot of time today to get into it. I just wanted to ask a few semi-probing questions for the GLP thread I knew I was going to write when I got home from work...and, at this point, I still felt safe.

I was not prepared for what he said next! As he continued with his stream of thought, he stated that the day or two before his daughter flew from China to the UK, his WIFE flew from Asheville to China to babysit their grandson in Shanghai. She arrived there on or about January 19 and remained there until their daughter returned from the UK (on the 28th). His wife then flew back into the US from China and arrived back in Asheville on Wednesday, the 29th. No screening, no questions, no nothing. She got home, visited with him for a few days and then left again this past weekend to drive to Myrtle Beach where they have a house under renovation. She was scheduled to meet this week with several contractors about the renovations....blah...blah...blah...

He is droning on about these renovations but all I could think was...

BACK UP! Your wife just flew here from China?


"GOOD FEELING GONE!" His wife has been in China during this outbreak and flew back into the US on an airbus with God knows WHO ELSE from China! She hopped a connecting flight in Dallas and came directly HERE! Then after a few days here, drove to the beach in South Carolina to meet with more people! She HAS to have been in contact with someone infected for the week she was in China or on the flight out of China to the US OR, at the VERY least, from her own daughter and son-in-law who just took a trip with several from around China, including Wuhan, and who has a colleague CURRENTLY IN QUARANTINE in the UK! After being in China for over a week, you KNOW she at least greeted her husband with a kiss when she got back home to Asheville. With a high RO of approx. 4.08, if she's got it then HE's got it and HE. JUST. SHOOK. MY. HAND.
(this is hitting way too close to home!)

My jaw is on the floor at this point in the conversation and he is still talking. I am trying to get my head around what he has just told me as he goes on to say that he teaches 3 classes a day at this local high school (population of approx. 1300 students) and each of his classes has around 30 different students. According to him, some of his students are star basketball players who had a big home game this past weekend with another school in our area and it was kind of a big deal so there was a huge turnout for the game. blah...blah...blah.

I can hear him talking but my mind is reeling at this point and all I can think is how many people has his wife been in contact with since she got back from her trip and drove on to South Carolina? And, furthermore, how many has HE been in direct contact with since his wife got home from her trip. It has been nearly a week and, if she has it, you know she is highly contagious and may not even be aware yet! In fact, he even bragged that if she had waiting a couple extra days to come back, she would be in quarantine at a military base right now but NOPE! She got back early. Yay.

I am running the numbers in my head...If she is infected but currently asymptomatic and contagious and he has direct contact with her and comes to work at a high school with 1300 students, 90 of which have direct contact with him in class (not to mention what door knobs he has touched, etc.), some of which students played in a big home game this past weekend where a sweaty basketball was passed around with students from another local high school...You see where I am going with this?!?

Yesterday, I didn't know ANYONE from China as we have a very small Asian population in Asheville and thought the chances I would encounter anyone from China or anyone directly connected with anyone from China were slim to none. I felt safe. My Community felt safe. And now this evening, my husband is joking about making me sleep in our guest bedroom for the next 14 days and I am considering it! All because my job took me to a "petrie dish" today that may or may not have included this dreaded CORONAVIRUS! WTH!!!

All concern for myself aside, I am thinking of all of those students and faculty at the school who probably have no idea what may or may not be lying on their doorstep. I have a good mind to call the school tomorrow (anonymously of course) and tell them what I have just told you. But, really, what good would it do? At this point, they would have to quarantine everyone there, AND their families, AND the rival team that came to that school for the BB game and THEIR families... This is out of our hands and we are already far behind the ball on this!

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. I am really not a fearful person, despite my over use of exclamation points in this thread. I am just frustrated that the lack of info on this topic and lack of serious reporting by our government officials and MSM could doom us all! Those few of us trying to keep track of this can only wake up those closest to us and even some of those choose to believe the MSM and government over us.

It won't be easy for any of us to come to terms with this new reality but we need to start processing the strong possibility that our world is actually very small and made smaller still with constant air travel. This thing is here. Not coming...HERE!
Otherwise, just when you think you are safe and it's not in your area, someone with a direct personal link to this pandemic walks right up to you and shakes your hand!



Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!

Just went through the exact same illness here. 40 miles north of you.
We just got over it and had to isolate my elderly mother from the rest of the household to keep from killing her.

I’ve had the flu since last weekend. I caught it from my husband who had traveled by plane recently to Ohio and Oklahoma. He was only sick for three days.

I had muscle aches all over and a low fever all week, but it gradually went down. By Sunday I thought I was done with it, and I went out to eat and to get groceries. Monday morning my temperature shot up higher than it was last week and the aches and headaches were back. Today I’m a little better, but still quite sick.

I’ve been drinking antiviral herbal tea, elderberry and emergen-c everyday. I won’t go to the doctor unless I’m short of breath or the fever gets high. But I need to be well by next week.

This story has the tone of one of those Sucha Fool news memos.

Maybe they think of smoke from a fire, it originates from the fire that made it.

I’ve had the flu since last weekend. I caught it from my husband who had traveled by plane recently to Ohio and Oklahoma. He was only sick for three days.

I had muscle aches all over and a low fever all week, but it gradually went down. By Sunday I thought I was done with it, and I went out to eat and to get groceries. Monday morning my temperature shot up higher than it was last week and the aches and headaches were back. Today I’m a little better, but still quite sick.

I’ve been drinking antiviral herbal tea, elderberry and emergen-c everyday. I won’t go to the doctor unless I’m short of breath or the fever gets high. But I need to be well by next week.