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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76447254 United States 02/06/2020 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] Wrong. Maybe for members of Congress, but not the Speaker of the House. She is the official record keeper. She destroyed an official SIGNED RECORD of the State of the Union that was personally delivered to her. Exactly, it is a matter of important historical record. My stalker walked into our local courthouse records, impersonated me, proceeded to request a court file of importance, after receiving right there and then removed and put in her bag some of the copies of records and ripped up others not aware she was being filmed and watched by clerk recorder. My documents were of minor relevance, the SOTU address is profoundly important history, all copies. This lunatic chick, from a very wealthy family, got thrown in jail for this, among other things, but that charge stuck and it was serious time and years of probation. I think Nancy deserves some kind of punishment for her very public crime. You know there is a reason Hannity is asking for that torn copy and willing to pay for it. So there is no wiggle room for Nancy. Hannity needs to offer 20k to the janitors. |
~BigBlock~
User ID: 78188324 United States 02/06/2020 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally Pe-meditated [link to www.lifezette.com (secure)] Man is forever solving the most perplexing problems as he ventures ever further into the unknown. But where are the outer limits of his ingenuity? Will he ever encounter a problem, a Gordian Knot, which he cannot ultimately cut? --GLPPower-- |
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Digital mix guy
User ID: 76961927 United States 02/06/2020 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/06/2020 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally This makes us look weak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799292 We just had 2 huge wins and don't need to get petty like this. It is not petty to uphold laws designed to protect important governmental records. If she will ignore her job as Speaker of the House and tear up an official document that was supposed to go into the Congressional Archive on live T.V., then what other kinds of documents is she willing to destroy when she is not on prime time t.v? |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 37197857 Canada 02/06/2020 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally Fine her, not prison. That is going to far and won't be done. But akin to impeachment, the clause b) talks about removing her from her position and that she can never run again. So that would be poetic justice, because she tried to have that done to the President. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 37197857 Canada 02/06/2020 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally It's on Laura Ingraham about the crime but the rumor she was told is that its a copy of the document the president signed. I wonder what the truth is about this. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Reality's Byte
User ID: 75544661 Australia 02/06/2020 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She did this right in front of Attorney General William Barr. If the Attorney General does not follow through with prosecuting her for this there is no rule of law in America. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan We want equal justice for all! Equal justice is a fantasy. Has been for many years now. Nothing will happen. |
SilverCyprus
User ID: 77123653 Canada 02/06/2020 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho. |
The Gullible Skeptic
User ID: 77300925 United States 02/06/2020 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] I agree let's not be as petty as them. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77901654 United States 02/06/2020 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She can be censured for violating rules of decorum. Quoting: Fist in the Box Gingrich: Censure Nancy Pelosi for Tearing Up Trump's SOTU Speech [link to www.breitbart.com (secure)] Can you censure mentally ill? Mental institution-Orchard without parole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/06/2020 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! It was deposited by Trump with Nancy, when he handed it to her and failed to shake her hand. Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77973445 United States 02/06/2020 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] I agree let's not be as petty as them. This. Who gives a fuck if that Old Troll ripped up a copy of a speech. This has been a SUCCESSFUL attempt to bring us down to their level. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/06/2020 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho. It was deposited by Trump with Nancy when he gave it to her and failed to shake her hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77419672 United States 02/06/2020 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She did this right in front of Attorney General William Barr. If the Attorney General does not follow through with prosecuting her for this there is no rule of law in America. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan Considering what Trump just got away with, and the GOP siding with him like fucking morons, i think you're a little late on the No Rule Of Law In Amerikkka thing... Clever but everything seems to be non-white. So suck a dump truck worth of dicks because you're a race baiting bigot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/06/2020 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] I agree let's not be as petty as them. It is not petty. If you let these people destroy documents then you end up with situations like Sandy Berger, or Hillary's deleted 30,000 e-mails. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77973445 United States 02/06/2020 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally 18 witnesses testified before Schiff's committee in his top secret bunker in the Capitol basement. The testimony of 17 of those 18 witnesses was given to the senate as evidence. Don't lie. Are you serious he was tried with no witnesses or evidence that is a documented fact idiot Are you serious?? He was charged without commiting a Crime! This happen every minute, of every hour, of every day here in America to MILLIONS OF CITIZENS. |
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Major Doom
User ID: 76715874 United States 02/06/2020 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She can be censured for violating rules of decorum. Quoting: Fist in the Box Gingrich: Censure Nancy Pelosi for Tearing Up Trump's SOTU Speech [link to www.breitbart.com (secure)] This was my first thought as well. 200+ (? Did SOTU start that long ago?) years of tradition down the drain. It's not tradition, it is Constitutionally mandated, Article II, Section 3: He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States. The copy that Nancy Pelosi destroyed was a Constitutionally mandated document, hence, making it an official document submitted to the House and not a personal copy given to Pelosi. As such, 18 USC 2071 applies in this case. EDIT: What the PolitiFact article states is incorrect. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] Last Edited by Major Doom on 02/06/2020 03:09 AM DOOM is what you make of it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78441646 United States 02/06/2020 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally Impeach Pelosi! Remove Pelosi from office. If President Trump can be impeached for no cited statute then House Speaker Pelosi can certainly be prosecuted under 18 U.S. Code 2071 Concealment, removal or mutilation generally. Make it happen! Nobody is above the law right Pelosi? |
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TheDarknessComes
User ID: 76792340 United States 02/06/2020 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] I agree let's not be as petty as them. This. Who gives a fuck if that Old Troll ripped up a copy of a speech. This has been a SUCCESSFUL attempt to bring us down to their level. It surely fucking has. If a 79yo alcoholic woman ripping papers up causes one to go hysterical, that person can no longer call anyone a snowflake. More ppl are talking about this dumb shit than the speech. Quit giving her antics attention, you feed fuel to the fire. Last Edited by TheDarknessComes on 02/06/2020 03:41 AM 70% success rate in magick |
Major Doom
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