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GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

 
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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Wrong. Maybe for members of Congress, but not the Speaker of the House. She is the official record keeper. She destroyed an official SIGNED RECORD of the State of the Union that was personally delivered to her.
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Exactly, it is a matter of important historical record.

My stalker walked into our local courthouse records, impersonated me, proceeded to request a court file of importance, after receiving right there and then removed and put in her bag some of the copies of records and ripped up others not aware she was being filmed and watched by clerk recorder.

My documents were of minor relevance, the SOTU address is profoundly important history, all copies. This lunatic chick, from a very wealthy family, got thrown in jail for this, among other things, but that charge stuck and it was serious time and years of probation.

I think Nancy deserves some kind of punishment for her very public crime.
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You know there is a reason Hannity is asking for that torn copy and willing to pay for it. So there is no wiggle room for Nancy. Hannity needs to offer 20k to the janitors.
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She did it twice ...6 years
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This makes us look weak.

We just had 2 huge wins and don't need to get petty like this.
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It's not petty.

She shamed her office and title and broke a law IN FRONT OF ALL AMERICA! It's not petty. It's shameful, unethical and criminal.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
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This makes us look weak.

We just had 2 huge wins and don't need to get petty like this.
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It is not petty to uphold laws designed to protect important governmental records. If she will ignore her job as Speaker of the House and tear up an official document that was supposed to go into the Congressional Archive on live T.V., then what other kinds of documents is she willing to destroy when she is not on prime time t.v?
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queen elizabeth sez, "OFF WITH HER HEAD!"
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everyone can go and print out a new copy for her and mail it to her registered mail, i'm sure she would appreciate it.

let's say 10 million copies should do the job
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Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
Fine her, not prison. That is going to far and won't be done.

But akin to impeachment, the clause b) talks about removing her from her position and that she can never run again.

So that would be poetic justice, because she tried to have that done to the President.
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Arrest that treasonous witch today!!
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It's on Laura Ingraham about the crime but the rumor she was told is that its a copy of the document the president signed.

I wonder what the truth is about this.
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She did this right in front of Attorney General William Barr. If the Attorney General does not follow through with prosecuting her for this there is no rule of law in America.

We want equal justice for all!
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Equal justice is a fantasy. Has been for many years now. Nothing will happen.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
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Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho.
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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I agree let's not be as petty as them.
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She can be censured for violating rules of decorum.


Gingrich: Censure Nancy Pelosi for Tearing Up Trump's SOTU Speech
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Can you censure mentally ill? Mental institution-Orchard without parole.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
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It was deposited by Trump with Nancy, when he handed it to her and failed to shake her hand.

Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho.
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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 Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat


I agree let's not be as petty as them.
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This.

Who gives a fuck if that Old Troll ripped up a copy of a speech. This has been a SUCCESSFUL attempt to bring us down to their level.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


Her copy of the speech was neither filed or deposited. Nice try tho.
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It was deposited by Trump with Nancy when he gave it to her and failed to shake her hand.
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She did this right in front of Attorney General William Barr. If the Attorney General does not follow through with prosecuting her for this there is no rule of law in America.


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Considering what Trump just got away with, and the GOP siding with him like fucking morons, i think you're a little late on the No Rule Of Law In Amerikkka thing...
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Clever but everything seems to be non-white. So suck a dump truck worth of dicks because you're a race baiting bigot.
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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I agree let's not be as petty as them.
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It is not petty. If you let these people destroy documents then you end up with situations like Sandy Berger, or Hillary's deleted 30,000 e-mails.

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The guy who has a trial with no witnesses was guilty your an idiot.
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18 witnesses testified before Schiff's committee in his top secret bunker in the Capitol basement.

The testimony of 17 of those 18 witnesses was given to the senate as evidence.

Don't lie.
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Are you serious he was tried with no witnesses or evidence that is a documented fact idiot
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Are you serious?? He was charged without commiting a Crime!
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This happen every minute, of every hour, of every day here in America to MILLIONS OF CITIZENS.
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For the first time, Something will happen.
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The rules shall apply.

She should be given the option to resign without benefits as an act of mercy.
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Lock the bitch up, throw away the key
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She can be censured for violating rules of decorum.


Gingrich: Censure Nancy Pelosi for Tearing Up Trump's SOTU Speech
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 Quoting: Fist in the Box


This was my first thought as well. 200+ (? Did SOTU start that long ago?) years of tradition down the drain.
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It's not tradition, it is Constitutionally mandated, Article II, Section 3: He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

The copy that Nancy Pelosi destroyed was a Constitutionally mandated document, hence, making it an official document submitted to the House and not a personal copy given to Pelosi. As such, 18 USC 2071 applies in this case.

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What the PolitiFact article states is incorrect.
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It's on Laura Ingraham about the crime but the rumor she was told is that its a copy of the document the president signed.

I wonder what the truth is about this.
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Nancy shouldn't have listened to AOC flower
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Impeach Pelosi! Remove Pelosi from office.


If President Trump can be impeached for no cited statute then House Speaker Pelosi can certainly be prosecuted under 18 U.S. Code 2071 Concealment, removal or mutilation generally.

Make it happen! Nobody is above the law right Pelosi?
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Put her ass in jail for 3 years!
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Lethal injection
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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 Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat


I agree let's not be as petty as them.
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This.

Who gives a fuck if that Old Troll ripped up a copy of a speech. This has been a SUCCESSFUL attempt to bring us down to their level.
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It surely fucking has. If a 79yo alcoholic woman ripping papers up causes one to go hysterical, that person can no longer call anyone a snowflake.

More ppl are talking about this dumb shit than the speech. Quit giving her antics attention, you feed fuel to the fire.

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It's sad seeing some support the lawlessness of
the Democrats and support their double standard.
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