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Its probable its bullshit, yes.

If thats the case, we are all FUBAR
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It's been spreading for a couple months now, ample time for it to have caused a deadly outbreak elsewhere if it was going to. But it hasn't happened, even within China.

According to the latest updates there are still only the two deaths outside China. One Chinese, one immunocompromised. And within China only 29 of the reported deaths are outside Hubei Province where the actual dead probably number far higher than the 780 reported?
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Disagree re outbreak in China. But.

Yeah its weird alright.

The numbers outside of China should be higher by now.

20 Jan, Wahun was locked down. So 2 weeks.

In Australia we had 40-50 plane loads coming in per day.

Say this started only 1 week prior to Jan 20. We should already have people dropping like flies.

Then there is the 6 week incubation theory.

That puts us right in the outbreak period.

Yet numbers in Western regions remain low and slow.

If cChina had of fucked up, imagine the social and political fall out on that alone.

Then there is the international outcry both from the global population and world governments.

It'd be a shambles, and likely the end of the CCP.

China is not letting the CDC in, and telling its people it is Americas fault, yet no real indications of a war footing.
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What I meant about China is that the deadly outbreak hasn't really spread outside Hubei province. The virus has spread, but the expected deaths have not. The 29 deaths outside Hubei Province could easily be explained by travelers from Hubei Province that got the vaccine.
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Or it could be because the hospitals in Hubei are and were overwhelmed.

I also believe China is lying about the death toll in the other provinces but I have no proof so...
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I'm saying a vaccine for 1 virus will not effect or work against a different virus.
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No shit sherlock. Come back when you have read and understood the articles.
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
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Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?
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Just admit it you don't know what you're talking about.

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Its probable its bullshit, yes.

If thats the case, we are all FUBAR
 Quoting: Baldrick

It's been spreading for a couple months now, ample time for it to have caused a deadly outbreak elsewhere if it was going to. But it hasn't happened, even within China.

According to the latest updates there are still only the two deaths outside China. One Chinese, one immunocompromised. And within China only 29 of the reported deaths are outside Hubei Province where the actual dead probably number far higher than the 780 reported?
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Disagree re outbreak in China. But.

Yeah its weird alright.

The numbers outside of China should be higher by now.

20 Jan, Wahun was locked down. So 2 weeks.

In Australia we had 40-50 plane loads coming in per day.

Say this started only 1 week prior to Jan 20. We should already have people dropping like flies.

Then there is the 6 week incubation theory.

That puts us right in the outbreak period.

Yet numbers in Western regions remain low and slow.

If cChina had of fucked up, imagine the social and political fall out on that alone.

Then there is the international outcry both from the global population and world governments.

It'd be a shambles, and likely the end of the CCP.

China is not letting the CDC in, and telling its people it is Americas fault, yet no real indications of a war footing.
 Quoting: Baldrick


What I meant about China is that the deadly outbreak hasn't really spread outside Hubei province. The virus has spread, but the expected deaths have not. The 29 deaths outside Hubei Province could easily be explained by travelers from Hubei Province that got the vaccine.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Ok i get where you are coming from on that.

I'm seeing reports of under reporting of numbers across china.

Japan seems to be holding, but havent checked numbers recently.

Hong Kong seems to be getting hit.

Suspect Asian region numbers to increase as Chinese nationals flee.
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unless you have a broken bone

best advice is to avoid doctors completely
Grove

And this is why we can't have nice things.
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
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Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?
 Quoting: Baldrick


LOL

But seriously, great thread, OP. Thank you. And I hope in time it all proves to be true.
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No shit sherlock. Come back when you have read and understood the articles.
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?
 Quoting: Baldrick


Just admit it you don't know what you're talking about.

gg
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


Brilliant response.

You are a goddam superhero son

superhero
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?
 Quoting: Baldrick


LOL

But seriously, great thread, OP. Thank you. And I hope in time it all proves to be true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190830


Much appreciated.

Yeah its about the most positive scenario we can hope for.

Which is a shitty thing to hope for eh?
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Middle Eastern men could walk the streets in Wuhan . No receptors no SARS vaccine. WOW
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Middle Eastern men could walk the streets in Wuhan . No receptors no SARS vaccine. WOW
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Hell they could go down on a hooker banged up in quarantine and still come out shining like a rock star.
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IS this implying that ppl who got a SARS vaccine are more susceptible to NCov or its variants ?
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Nope, it means the west has attacked China with a bioweapon with the biolab cover.

A virus that is tailor made to mostly just affect Chinese and asians with similar genetics.

Hitting the Chinese where they are weak, overpopulation.

And then a western company miraculously comes up with a vaccine to sell to them, butchering the Chinese economy.

Before you start to cheer, hold up because that same tech will be used on caucasians in the west when the globalists get the opportunity.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Just admit it you don't know what you're talking about.

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AC, please read this article by a PhD, where he explains in detail about the coronavirus/vaccination association.

"If the Chinese government has been conducting human trials against SARS. MERS, or other coronviruses using recombined viruses, they may have made their citizens far more susceptible to acute respiratory distress syndrome upon infection with 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

The implications are clear: if China sensitized their population via a SARS vaccine, and this escaped from a lab, the rest of world has a serious humanitarian urgency to help China, but may not expect as serious an epidemic as might otherwise be expected."

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IS this implying that ppl who got a SARS vaccine are more susceptible to NCov or its variants ?
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Nope, it means the west has attacked China with a bioweapon with the biolab cover.

A virus that is tailor made to mostly just affect Chinese and asians with similar genetics.

Hitting the Chinese where they are weak, overpopulation.

And then a western company miraculously comes up with a vaccine to sell to them, butchering the Chinese economy.

Before you start to cheer, hold up because that same tech will be used on caucasians in the west when the globalists get the opportunity.
 Quoting: Jungleboogie


Yeah nah.

I ran that scenario.

Not coming up with anything beyond conspiracy articles.

Doesnt make sense, its a diminishing return scenario, and AFAIK, there is no virus, natural or not, that can target a population that accurately.

China is not on a war footing right now that I can see.
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the whole vaccine industry could be ruined. Any vaccine now can be weaponized and cause body immune to overreact in a violent deadly way since we all have Corona virus in a year
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Yup. This hopefully is the situation, that China messed up, big time, in their mandatory vaccinations.

I posted this reply on the thread about the 5 Brits in France getting corona, Thread: Coronavirus Doom-FIRST TRANSMISSION WITH NO CHINA CONNECTION-5 Brits in French Skiing Village and wanted to post it here too:

Hopefully, this thread Thread: Thread: China's Mandatory Vaccination Law Went Into Effect on December 1, 2019 - The Coronavirus Outbreak is a Vaccine Experiment Gone Bad proves to be true, with time (China's mandatory vaccination made many of their people very susceptible to severe symptoms from corona strains, in a nutshell- read the thread for more details)

Seems most people with coronavirus, so far, on a cruise ship quarantined in the harbor by Japan, have few symptoms, if at all:

"Among the other Americans quarantined aboard the ship are Rebecca Frasure and her husband. She was shocked when a doctor on board the ship knocked on her door to inform her that her throat swab had tested positive for the virus, as she had no symptoms other than a cough.

In a Skype interview with CNN, Rebecca said: 'I don't know what's going to happen an hour from now, tomorrow. For all we know, we could stay quarantined on the ship for a month.'

The new cases, all passengers who are in their 20s to 80s, will be taken to medical facilities in Tokyo and nearby Saitama Chiba and Kanagawa prefectures as well as Shizuoka Prefecture in central Japan.

At least one person is reported in serious condition, although the person also has a pre-existing health matter. None of the others afflicted by the virus have severe symptoms, Japan's health ministry said. "

dailymail article: American cruise passenger passes the time stuck in coronavirus quarantine by tweeting reviews of his food as he jokes the only pleas for help are 'for more coffee'

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
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If that's the truth they'll never admit it. This would be the test run. We already have mandatory vaccination for our kids in many states. If my kids go out like that doctors gonna pay
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the whole vaccine industry could be ruined. Any vaccine now can be weaponized and cause body immune to overreact in a violent deadly way since we all have Corona virus in a year
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Yeh. Interesting thought, as far as nefarious governments acting upon this.

But, from what I read so far, the vaccine issues are only associated with SARS/MERS/coronavirus variants.
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Yup. This hopefully is the situation, that China messed up, big time, in their mandatory vaccinations.

I posted this reply on the thread about the 5 Brits in France getting corona, Thread: Coronavirus Doom-FIRST TRANSMISSION WITH NO CHINA CONNECTION-5 Brits in French Skiing Village and wanted to post it here too:

Hopefully, this thread Thread: Thread: China's Mandatory Vaccination Law Went Into Effect on December 1, 2019 - The Coronavirus Outbreak is a Vaccine Experiment Gone Bad proves to be true, with time (China's mandatory vaccination made many of their people very susceptible to severe symptoms from corona strains, in a nutshell- read the thread for more details)

Seems most people with coronavirus, so far, on a cruise ship quarantined in the harbor by Japan, have few symptoms, if at all:

"Among the other Americans quarantined aboard the ship are Rebecca Frasure and her husband. She was shocked when a doctor on board the ship knocked on her door to inform her that her throat swab had tested positive for the virus, as she had no symptoms other than a cough.

In a Skype interview with CNN, Rebecca said: 'I don't know what's going to happen an hour from now, tomorrow. For all we know, we could stay quarantined on the ship for a month.'

The new cases, all passengers who are in their 20s to 80s, will be taken to medical facilities in Tokyo and nearby Saitama Chiba and Kanagawa prefectures as well as Shizuoka Prefecture in central Japan.

At least one person is reported in serious condition, although the person also has a pre-existing health matter. None of the others afflicted by the virus have severe symptoms, Japan's health ministry said. "

dailymail article: American cruise passenger passes the time stuck in coronavirus quarantine by tweeting reviews of his food as he jokes the only pleas for help are 'for more coffee'

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190830


If that's the truth they'll never admit it. This would be the test run. We already have mandatory vaccination for our kids in many states. If my kids go out like that doctors gonna pay
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56514037


nodding
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?
 Quoting: Baldrick


LOL

But seriously, great thread, OP. Thank you. And I hope in time it all proves to be true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190830


Much appreciated.

Yeah its about the most positive scenario we can hope for.

Which is a shitty thing to hope for eh?
 Quoting: Baldrick


Yes. True. Poor Chinese people. verysad

The absolute fault in all of this lays in the hands of their government.
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Please enlighten me further.
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I'm saying a vaccine for 1 virus will not effect or work against a different virus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


No shit sherlock. Come back when you have read and understood the articles.
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Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222866


It's not a totally different virus you halfwit.
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In the year of the RAT China's own government did not pay attention to the SARS vaccinated RATS that died when introduced the Corona virus in trials


SARS VACCINE + CORONA VACCINE is a death sentence if your Asian.
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Lots of studies on this.

An ideal SARS vaccine should 1) elicit highly potent neutralizing antibody responses against a broad spectrum of viral strains; 2) induce protection against infection and transmission; and 3) be safe by not inducing any infection-enhancing antibodies or harmful immune or inflammatory responses. Currently, an inactivated SARS-CoV vaccine is in clinical trials in China. Safety is the major concern for this type of vaccine (12). The S protein is the major inducer of neutralizing antibodies. Recombinant vector-based vaccines expressing full-length S protein of the late SARS-CoV are under development. These vaccines can induce potent neutralizing and protective responses in immunized animals but may induce antibodies that enhance infection by early human SARS-CoV and animal SARS-CoV–like viruses (6)

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Just admit it you don't know what you're talking about.

gg
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AC, please read this article by a PhD, where he explains in detail about the coronavirus/vaccination association.

"If the Chinese government has been conducting human trials against SARS. MERS, or other coronviruses using recombined viruses, they may have made their citizens far more susceptible to acute respiratory distress syndrome upon infection with 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

The implications are clear: if China sensitized their population via a SARS vaccine, and this escaped from a lab, the rest of world has a serious humanitarian urgency to help China, but may not expect as serious an epidemic as might otherwise be expected."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190830


I saw that AC 77722866 had left a comment that a specific RNA sequence was necessary for the vaccine and coronavirus to match, but now the comment is gone. I'll respond anyway.

I read through the PhD's article again, and he clearly states, due to genetic sequences that matched his research, that this particular coronavirus was most likely lab made for a vaccine, and the Chinese people were vaccinated with this vaccine, and then this particular coronavirus was accidentally released, and so the RNA sequences would match.

And so, the theory still stands, that the threat of severe reactions to exposure from the coronavirus would be greatly enhanced and thus folks in China could get severely ill.
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If my information is correct all the serious respiratory viruses attack the mucus lining in the respiratory tract causing it to dry up. The mucus lining protects the delicate skin of the lungs etc so without it the delicate skin which is supposed to be moist and supple becomes hard and cracks. Then your lungs can't work properly.
When I had bird/swine flu in 2010 this is what happened to me. I refused to go to doctor bcoz I didn't want to go to hospital. Finally what saved me was a hot very steamy shower. Breathing in the steam coated my lungs with some moisture and enabled them to work properly again.
Within half an hour I felt better and that was it.
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IS this implying that ppl who got a SARS vaccine are more susceptible to NCov or its variants ?
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Its a join the dots scenario...

:nodding:
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Basically they F'ed up like America did with the Flu vaccine this year, but with really bad shit so they are F'ed as a nation...
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If my information is correct all the serious respiratory viruses attack the mucus lining in the respiratory tract causing it to dry up. The mucus lining protects the delicate skin of the lungs etc so without it the delicate skin which is supposed to be moist and supple becomes hard and cracks. Then your lungs can't work properly.
When I had bird/swine flu in 2010 this is what happened to me. I refused to go to doctor bcoz I didn't want to go to hospital. Finally what saved me was a hot very steamy shower. Breathing in the steam coated my lungs with some moisture and enabled them to work properly again.
Within half an hour I felt better and that was it.
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Good to know. I wonder if a warm vaporizer/humidifier(for common cold), would achieve the same end result?

I'm thinking of picking one of these up, if so:

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By the time 'the dots are connected' its too late to stop what is happening burnit
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If my information is correct all the serious respiratory viruses attack the mucus lining in the respiratory tract causing it to dry up. The mucus lining protects the delicate skin of the lungs etc so without it the delicate skin which is supposed to be moist and supple becomes hard and cracks. Then your lungs can't work properly.
When I had bird/swine flu in 2010 this is what happened to me. I refused to go to doctor bcoz I didn't want to go to hospital. Finally what saved me was a hot very steamy shower. Breathing in the steam coated my lungs with some moisture and enabled them to work properly again.
Within half an hour I felt better and that was it.
 Quoting: bob uk carethno 78358077


Good to know. I wonder if a warm vaporizer/humidifier(for common cold), would achieve the same end result?

I'm thinking of picking one of these up, if so:

[link to www.walmart.com (secure)]
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It's the steam that enables the lungs to work normally.
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By the time 'the dots are connected' its too late to stop what is happening burnit
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Not true
Forced mandatory curtailment of our ability to freely travel, mingle, socialise and not be forcefully vaccinated NEEDS AN INFECTIOUS AGENT

that "infectious agent" is the longrunning equivalent of the Isis boogeyman

Remove the fear of infectious agent by demonstrating that indeed what we are seeing is the result of a prior vaccination gives the gov and these dastardly agencies zero room to demand quarantine, marshal law, restriction on travel etc
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By the time 'the dots are connected' its too late to stop what is happening burnit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381841


Not true
Forced mandatory curtailment of our ability to freely travel, mingle, socialise and not be forcefully vaccinated NEEDS AN INFECTIOUS AGENT

that "infectious agent" is the longrunning equivalent of the Isis boogeyman

Remove the fear of infectious agent by demonstrating that indeed what we are seeing is the result of a prior vaccination gives the gov and these dastardly agencies zero room to demand quarantine, marshal law, restriction on travel etc
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But the fear is very infectious
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If my information is correct all the serious respiratory viruses attack the mucus lining in the respiratory tract causing it to dry up. The mucus lining protects the delicate skin of the lungs etc so without it the delicate skin which is supposed to be moist and supple becomes hard and cracks. Then your lungs can't work properly.
When I had bird/swine flu in 2010 this is what happened to me. I refused to go to doctor bcoz I didn't want to go to hospital. Finally what saved me was a hot very steamy shower. Breathing in the steam coated my lungs with some moisture and enabled them to work properly again.
Within half an hour I felt better and that was it.
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Good info. Thank you for letting us know this. hf
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Only in China did the population take SARS vaccine . Corona virus will spread everywhere but only if u took SARS vaccine is it deadly





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