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This Simple Test May Help Diagnose Cytokine Storm Early On, Remember The Name If You Get sick

 
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Activated charcoal may help remove inflammatory cytokines.
RIGHT after taking it, I noticed I was feeling much calmer and better (for a few hours, anyway). I looked some things up, and found this could be why


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You have to be a dialysis patient to use this method,
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Your lifestyle plays a huge role in cytokine expression. These steps can help tame the storm:

Exercise regularly. Exercising at least two to three days per week can calm pro-inflammatory cytokines and greatly lessen pain. This includes walking, pilates, weight lifting, or whatever you enjoy.
Cut out inflammatory foods. Such as gluten, dairy, conventional meats, nightshades, oxalates, and legumes. If you experience serious pain, consider the GAPS diet to lower inflammation.
Be sure to drink at least 8 ounces of filtered water daily. In the middle of a detox? Drink more!
Get at least 8 hours of sleep each night. (Read about how to improve your sleep here.)
Stimulate your vagus nerve and laugh, meditate, pray, or sing daily!
Get rid of negative thoughts. Instead, focus on positive affirmations or Bible verses daily.
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My daughter has several sensitivities to foods and we dont eat dairy,eggs or gluten. Legumes are part of our diet- if we cut them out, I'm not sure we have much left. I'm going to research, but why are legumes bad? Thinking of our daily consumption, we probably have a serving 3-4x a week.
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We don’t personally have an issue with most legumes except lentils, but apparently there are quite a few people who have issues with legumes. It is really hard to figure out your sensitivity without cutting out all the usual suspects for three weeks. I had an ulcer and an inflamed stomach so was really sick. I went on the Elimination diet, you can find PDF’s online. I basically ate quinoa (made cereal with honey and organic oat milk) veggies, bone broth, organic chicken and beef and fish. I didn’t take all of the meds they gave me. I also cut out coffee and drank Chaga instead. I lost all of my morning stiffness and inflammation and lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks. I ate same amount of calories, just different food. It’s an adjustment for sure but you will feel better. I went back for another look after 3 months and stomach was back to being healthy, no ulcer or inflammation. I think most people would be surprised that many of their health problems stem from having food sensitivities.
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It's nice to know about tests done in a hospital lab, but you need to plan on home treatment only. That can include home testing if you can draw blood and have the procedures and reagents. No doubt in an epidemic situation, little diagnosis will be required. Just treat as though you have it unless it's a high risk treatment.

There are no hospital beds available in China, and if things got that bad, there would be none here either. You don't want to be quarantined with a bunch of sick people - especially if your not sick. You need be able to handle your own shit, even if your alone. That's the American way.
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Your lifestyle plays a huge role in cytokine expression. These steps can help tame the storm:

Exercise regularly. Exercising at least two to three days per week can calm pro-inflammatory cytokines and greatly lessen pain. This includes walking, pilates, weight lifting, or whatever you enjoy.
Cut out inflammatory foods. Such as gluten, dairy, conventional meats, nightshades, oxalates, and legumes. If you experience serious pain, consider the GAPS diet to lower inflammation.
Be sure to drink at least 8 ounces of filtered water daily. In the middle of a detox? Drink more!
Get at least 8 hours of sleep each night. (Read about how to improve your sleep here.)
Stimulate your vagus nerve and laugh, meditate, pray, or sing daily!
Get rid of negative thoughts. Instead, focus on positive affirmations or Bible verses daily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809123

My daughter has several sensitivities to foods and we dont eat dairy,eggs or gluten. Legumes are part of our diet- if we cut them out, I'm not sure we have much left. I'm going to research, but why are legumes bad? Thinking of our daily consumption, we probably have a serving 3-4x a week.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78195643


We don’t personally have an issue with most legumes except lentils, but apparently there are quite a few people who have issues with legumes. It is really hard to figure out your sensitivity without cutting out all the usual suspects for three weeks. I had an ulcer and an inflamed stomach so was really sick. I went on the Elimination diet, you can find PDF’s online. I basically ate quinoa (made cereal with honey and organic oat milk) veggies, bone broth, organic chicken and beef and fish. I didn’t take all of the meds they gave me. I also cut out coffee and drank Chaga instead. I lost all of my morning stiffness and inflammation and lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks. I ate same amount of calories, just different food. It’s an adjustment for sure but you will feel better. I went back for another look after 3 months and stomach was back to being healthy, no ulcer or inflammation. I think most people would be surprised that many of their health problems stem from having food sensitivities.
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Curious about the lentils/peas/beans aspect you mentioned. Peas & Lentils are grown primarily in Washington State, Northern Idaho, Montana and North Dakota in USA. They are also grown in Canada in Saskatchewan, Manitoba & Alberta. The USA grown legumes are allowed to naturally dry in the field, at least in Washington, Idaho & Montana. Don't know about North Dakota. Since Canada is so far north, as is ND, & the growing season is so short, they usually spray their lentil/peas crops with a desiccant to force the crop to dry down enough to harvest. Most desiccants leave a
glyphosate residue.

[link to www.topcropmanager.com (secure)]

Since Canadian peas/lentils are often cheaper, USA Packagers [who sell to grocery stores] often bring in Canadian product over the more expensive USA naturally grown and dried peas/lentils. Even if they do use USA product, probably get co-mingled with the Canadian product so hard to tell what you are buying, unfortunately. I'm wondering if it is the 'glyphosate' in the product vs the actual peas/lentils that cause the problem??

Always helps to know where your food comes from and how it is grown and harvested!!
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ffs, coronavirus does not cause cytokine storm. Stop worrying.
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Thanks for this important info ~kpm~ hf
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I urge everyone to make a print out of possible tests and drugs that may help if you should become sick and or end up at the hospital

Add it to your list of daily meds so that you can discuss your treatment options



CHEAP SIMPLE TEST

Ask for a SERUM FERRITIN test


Symptoms include high fever, enlarged spleen, excessive bleeding, low counts of all types of blood cells (red, white and platelets) and, potentially, multiple organ failures.

A cheap, simple test, widely available at most hospitals in the United States and worldwide, can help diagnose cytokine storm syndrome, Cron said.

“A protein called serum ferritin tends to get very high in this disorder,” he said.

“If you are sick enough to be in a hospital and you have a fever, you should get a serum ferritin.


It typically comes back in less than 24 hours and almost every hospital can do it, and if it’s high you can work them up for cytokine storm syndrome.”


[link to www.uab.edu (secure)]



Keep this in mind....although the numbers are not up to date the R0 seems to be rising

It took eight months for SARS to spread to more than 8,000 people.

The Wuhan coronavirus infected over 20,000 people in about five weeks.

One month into SARS outbreak, only five people had died.

The new coronavirus had killed at least 213 people by the one-month mark.

[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]


In the past week, at least six teams of researchers, along with the World Health Organization, have published estimates of R0 for the new coronavirus.

All these groups used different methods, but their results have been mostly consistent, with estimates hovering between 2 and 3.

WHO was a little more conservative than the others, with estimates of 1.4 to 2.5.

One Chinese team is a clear outlier, with estimates of 3.3 to 5.5.

And a British-led group initially published a high average value of 3.8 last week before revising it downward to 2.5 as new data emerged.


[link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)]



Cytokine and chemokine measurement

To characterise the effect of coronavirus on the production of cytokines or chemokines in the acute phase of the illness, plasma cytokines and chemokines (IL1B, IL1RA, IL2, IL4, IL5, IL6, IL7, IL8 (also known as CXCL8), IL9, IL10, IL12p70, IL13, IL15, IL17A, Eotaxin (also known as CCL11), basic FGF2, GCSF (CSF3), GMCSF (CSF2), IFNγ, IP10 (CXCL10), MCP1 (CCL2), MIP1A (CCL3), MIP1B (CCL4), PDGFB, RANTES (CCL5), TNFα, and VEGFA were measured using Human Cytokine Standard 27-Plex Assays panel and the Bio-Plex 200 system (Bio-Rad, Hercules, CA, USA) for all patients according to the manufacturer's instructions.



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Tanks KMP!


tank
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For anyone that has not heard of aspirin and the
1918 flu epidemic...

[link to korenwellness.com (secure)]

FYI

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Now that I have everything...

Elderberry syrup

Green tea

and mung bean seed coat.

It’s not perfect and the one study used mega doses of green tea, but I’m sure you have other good stuff around, too. Nature is cool. Don’t forget elderberry.

Reports seem to say this flu is like the flu of 1918. Causes massive cytokine storms.

I really, really don’t like using a news article as a reference, but, there isn’t much out there on this new strain.

….The article notes the correlation of high levels of circulating inflammatory cytokines, or "cytokine storm," with severity of illness in patients infected with the Wuhan coronavirus (2019-nCoV)….
…. This "cytokine storm" can trigger a viral sepsis in coronavirus infection, where viral replication and excessive, uncontrolled systemic inflammation can lead to pneumonitis, acute respiratory distress syndrome, respiratory failure, shock, organ failure, secondary bacterial pneumonia, and potentially death…
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

….In fact, many plant-derived antioxidants (e.g., polyphenol, flavonoids, etc.) could also reduce the damage of epithelial cells and the mortality of mice caused by lethal influenza.42,43,44 However, current evidence indicates that monotherapy using antioxidants had a limited effect on cytokine storm, and a combination with antivirals would still be needed.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

….Epidemiological, clinical and experimental studies have established a positive correlation between green tea consumption and cardiovascular health. Catechins, the major polyphenolic compounds in green tea, exert vascular protective effects through multiple mechanisms, including antioxidative, anti-hypertensive, anti-inflammatory, anti-proliferative, anti-thrombogenic, and lipid lowering effects……..

….The anti-inflammatory activities of catechins may be due to their suppression of leukocyte adhesion to endothelium and subsequent transmigration through inhibition of transcriptional factor NF-kB-mediated production of cytokines and adhesion molecules both in endothelial cells and inflammatory cells. …..

….Besides being as anti-oxidants, catechins exert their biological effects by modulating some cellular signaling pathways that lead to reduction of inflammation, platelet aggregation, and an elevation of vascular reactivity….

…While some of the protective effects of catechins could be partially due to the secondary action of their antioxidant effect, it appears that catechins can directly act on immune and vascular cells to modulate their functions by targeting multiple cellular pathways and transcriptional factors involved in vascular health, inflammation and diseases such as eNOS/NO, arachidonic acid metabolism and NF-kB ….

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

….Symptoms were relieved on average 4 days earlier and use of rescue medication was significantly less in those receiving elderberry extract compared with placebo…

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Be very careful taking any medications that are immune system stimulants like echinacea


Immunostimulant herbs with this ability include

Astragalus Root
Barley
Catnip
Coconut oil
Dong Quai
Echinacea
Elderberry
Garlic
Ginseng
Golden Seal
Kombucha
Maca Root
Maitake
Queen of the meadow
Reishi
Shiitake
Suma Root



Get your blood Vitamin D levels up to 50. Get a baseline test


[link to www.acupuncturebrooklyn.com]


[link to www.myspiceblends.com]


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Cytokine Storm can kill you before the test gets done or the results come back.

This is what kills young healthy people when there immune systems go into overdrive and produce toxins that overwhelm the body.

Stock up on these over the counter meds, they are inexpensive, start when you first have symptoms, these items won’t kill you.

Info here


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Classification

CRS is a form of systemic inflammatory response syndrome and is an adverse effect of some drugs.

The Common Terminology Criteria for Adverse Events classifications for CRS as of version 4.03 issued in 2010 were:

Grade 1: Mild reaction, infusion interruption not indicated; intervention not indicated

Grade 2: Therapy or infusion interruption indicated but responds promptly to symptomatic treatment (e.g., antihistamines, NSAIDS, narcotics, IV fluids); prophylactic medications indicated for <=24 hrs

Grade 3: Prolonged (e.g., not rapidly responsive to symptomatic medication and/or brief interruption of infusion); recurrence of symptoms following initial improvement; hospitalization indicated for clinical sequelae (e.g., renal impairment, pulmonary infiltrates)

Grade 4: Life-threatening consequences; pressor or ventilatory support indicated

Grade 5: Death

Prevention

Severe CRS caused by some drugs can be prevented by using lower doses, infusing slowly, and administering anti-histamines or corticosteroids before and during administration of the drug.


Management

Treatment for less severe CRS is supportive, addressing the symptoms like fever, muscle pain, or fatigue.

Moderate CRS requires oxygen therapy and giving fluids and antihypotensive agents to raise blood pressure.

For moderate to severe CRS, the use of immunosuppressive agents like corticosteroids may be necessary, but judgement must be used to avoid negating the effect of drugs intended to activate the immune system.

Tocilizumab, an anti-IL6 monoclonal antibody, has been used in some medical centers to treat severe CRS.

Although frequently used to treat severe CRS in people with ARDS, corticosteroids and NSAIDs have been evaluated in clinical trials and have shown no effect on lung mechanics, gas exchange, or beneficial outcome in early established ARDS


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Cytokine Storm can kill you before the test gets done or the results come back.

This is what kills young healthy people when there immune systems go into overdrive and produce toxins that overwhelm the body.

Stock up on these over the counter meds, they are inexpensive, start when you first have symptoms, these items won’t kill you.

Info here


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H2 Antagonist Drugs:
*Pepcid/Tagamet/Adix/Zantac

PPI Drugs:
*Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium

H1 Antagonist Drugs:
*Benadryle or Generic (Diphenhydramine)

You know what Benadryl does. The H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines.

The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive (Monocytes = White Blood Cells)

Corona Virus Hits in a similar way to flu. It is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like it.

The body goes nuts to the point that your own immune system kills you in a "Cytokine Storm" very similar to a peanut allergy, in that it's the body's response that damages the person, not so much the peanuts.

When to start "therapy"? At the first sign of flu like symptoms.

Take as directed on the box.
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Most people die from cytokine storm due to lack of knowledge. Did anyone search "survivors of the Spanish flu?"

American Indians use Lomatium Root Oil. People can make it themselves. make a tea. American Indians had ZERO fatalities. it was called "big medicine"

Germans used some sort of powdered duck heart and liver, spelled something like Umcka

Chinese used a wild sage root similar to the American indians.

Japanese placed the victims head low to the floor on a picnic type bench, face down, and had someone "sit" on the victims back in order to assist in removing mucus while coughing. This created a more productive cough.

Infrared kills it (Tons of Sunlight)
Infrared light bulbs (250w bulbs go 3" deep into the body killing all plague, bacteria and virus.

UV kills it although it takes a ton of UV to penetrate deep into the body. Its better used in the room

Oxygen kills plague

Ozone kills plague - They make water and air ozonators but people need to gradually introduce the ozone to the body so it can adjust. They kill plague in the air immediately but in the lungs takes a gradual introduction

Food grade hydrogen peroxide mixed into a humidifier creates a productive cough

Baking soda kills it in the throat and stomach areas

Sweating in a sauna helps drain the lymph system. One need to get the fever somewhat under control then gradually do sauna sessions forcing a sweat. Sweating is good just that the body can't sweat fast enough...so assist it in a sauna.

Funny how I see no UV or IR in Chinese hospitals. Those hospitals should be glowing purple and red.

NEVER take Zinc during a cytokine storm because it accelerates the storm.
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Hate bumping my own post but THIS. I studied it for ten years. There are tens of thousands of ways to kill plage, virus, bacteria. What people need to do is to discover ways to kill it without harming healthy body tissue.

make sense? Gasoline kills plagues....but it also kills healthy body tissue. Find water based, nature based curse that plague hates and body doesn't mind and your good.

and yes, the best way to beat it is to not get it in the first place. No smoking, drinking, dirty sex, dirty cloths, dirty home, work out, get strong.
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Thanks for the info!

I’m glad you mentioned Zinc, was looking into that as a preventive

Going to read up on it...

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hf
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Zinc is great for colds, not plagues. Its also great for preventive measures but, if a person contracted one of the several plagues which create a Cytokine Storm they need to take all the Zinc in the hose and flush it down the drain stat/

If a person gets sun every day, wears a mask when in public, especially elevators, air planes, taxis, trains, subways, buses, etc., has an ozoneator (OZs create oxygen and kill plague), a quality silver based water filter, and sweat daily in a near field IR sauna, they probably wont even get it and if they do, they would shrug it off. This applies to just about any plague. Most people who get it are lazy, smokers, drinker types and don't heed the warnings.
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Difficult to get enough sun in winter.
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Interesting!

I have heredity hemocromatosis and have high serum ferritin when I have too much iron in my system. I get my serum ferritin checked every three months, in fact, to see if I need to phlebotomy to bring the ferritin/iron down to a healthy level.


I have been told by more than one of my oncologists this number is affected by inflammation in the body. It will go up with any kind inflammation, from a cold to having knee pain. Due to that they never go on just this number for hemochromatosis patients, but test the actual ferritin, TIBC and Saturation % as well.
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Mind explaing the symptoms?
What to take to stop it.
In a simple way...for us simpletons.
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Bring up concerns about cytokine storm, don’t ignore symptoms, fever, low blood pressure, headache, rash, scratchy throat, and dyspnea

Get in when the symptoms are mild to moderate in severity and are managed easily

First page has some treatment options
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I had all of those symptoms. All I took was Benadryl, real Sudafed, and coconut oil for my throat. Didn't eat, just drank protein shakes. Still recovering.
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Coconut oil is great for viruses. I take a tablespoon a day. Also anti histamines will help to keep lungs free of fluid. Or at least an over abundance of it. Mucinex is good to keep the lungs clear also. Lots of water keeps the mucus thin. Keep resting.
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For anyone that has not heard of aspirin and the
1918 flu epidemic...

[link to korenwellness.com (secure)]

FYI

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Aspirin is great for inflammation. I heard they just dosed people with way too much. People can overdose on anything. Even things that are good for us.
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Interesting!

I have heredity hemocromatosis and have high serum ferritin when I have too much iron in my system. I get my serum ferritin checked every three months, in fact, to see if I need to phlebotomy to bring the ferritin/iron down to a healthy level.


I have been told by more than one of my oncologists this number is affected by inflammation in the body. It will go up with any kind inflammation, from a cold to having knee pain. Due to that they never go on just this number for hemochromatosis patients, but test the actual ferritin, TIBC and Saturation % as well.
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If you get the flu or pneumonia watch it like a hawk
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Activated charcoal may help remove inflammatory cytokines.
RIGHT after taking it, I noticed I was feeling much calmer and better (for a few hours, anyway). I looked some things up, and found this could be why


[link to newswire.net (secure)]
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You have to be a dialysis patient to use this method,
and they have to approve it, and get the stuff to do it.

This will NEVER happen in our current Dialysis environment.

NEVER.

I know from whence I speak hereon.

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Just take it orally. I always have some around if I’m not feeling well.
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Mind explaing the symptoms?
What to take to stop it.
In a simple way...for us simpletons.
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Bring up concerns about cytokine storm, don’t ignore symptoms, fever, low blood pressure, headache, rash, scratchy throat, and dyspnea

Get in when the symptoms are mild to moderate in severity and are managed easily

First page has some treatment options
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I had all of those symptoms. All I took was Benadryl, real Sudafed, and coconut oil for my throat. Didn't eat, just drank protein shakes. Still recovering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508902


Coconut oil is great for viruses. I take a tablespoon a day. Also anti histamines will help to keep lungs free of fluid. Or at least an over abundance of it. Mucinex is good to keep the lungs clear also. Lots of water keeps the mucus thin. Keep resting.
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In my post above coconut oil is an immune stimulant

You don’t want to take that if you are actually sick with coronavirus, flu, pneumonia, it can cause CS
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Thoughts on quercetin? Looks to be an antiviral and has properties to stop cytokine storm.
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Thoughts on quercetin? Looks to be an antiviral and has properties to stop cytokine storm.
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Found this article on it....might not be bad to have on hand

The effects of quercetin on virus-induced macrophages have not been fully reported.


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

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Interesting!

I have heredity hemocromatosis and have high serum ferritin when I have too much iron in my system. I get my serum ferritin checked every three months, in fact, to see if I need to phlebotomy to bring the ferritin/iron down to a healthy level.


I have been told by more than one of my oncologists this number is affected by inflammation in the body. It will go up with any kind inflammation, from a cold to having knee pain. Due to that they never go on just this number for hemochromatosis patients, but test the actual ferritin, TIBC and Saturation % as well.
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If you get the flu or pneumonia watch it like a hawk
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I tore my rotator cuff years back and the number went up to 658, almost my highest serum ferritin ever...but thankfully all my others numbers were okay so they knew it was the inflammation from the tear that caused it to jump so insanely high.

It was 799 when I was diagnosed with Hemochromatosis.
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Interesting!

I have heredity hemocromatosis and have high serum ferritin when I have too much iron in my system. I get my serum ferritin checked every three months, in fact, to see if I need to phlebotomy to bring the ferritin/iron down to a healthy level.


I have been told by more than one of my oncologists this number is affected by inflammation in the body. It will go up with any kind inflammation, from a cold to having knee pain. Due to that they never go on just this number for hemochromatosis patients, but test the actual ferritin, TIBC and Saturation % as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77050988


If you get the flu or pneumonia watch it like a hawk
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I tore my rotator cuff years back and the number went up to 658, almost my highest serum ferritin ever...but thankfully all my others numbers were okay so they knew it was the inflammation from the tear that caused it to jump so insanely high.

It was 799 when I was diagnosed with Hemochromatosis.
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The scary part of CS is they don’t know who might get it

It’s like a crap shoot it appears

Be careful anytime you have something!

You should ask your doctor the connection between CS and serum ferritin levels, like what levels are high, lol
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KPM, and all.

Listen to me.

This Cytokine Storm is not on their radar.

That's why YOU have to be alert.

KPM is right.

YOU have to be the one to insist of the possibility.


UNDERSTAND: I'm not talking thru my hat here.


My wife is the lab director of a major hospital in a major
metropolitan city of the southeast.

She is the "Go to person" over a major metro area.
Brilliant, well informed and knows her shit beyond belief.

I have her sending me the daily updates from the CDC about
this Virus shit.



They run these tests all the time.

I have heard "ferritine and folate" lord knows how many times.

I asked, What about cytokine storms and ferritin?

Nope. What are you talking about?

The Docs aren't looking for it yet.

Just a heads up, GLP.

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KPM, and all.

Listen to me.

This Cytokine Storm is not on their radar.

That's why YOU have to be alert.

KPM is right.

YOU have to be the one to insist of the possibility.


UNDERSTAND: I'm not talking thru my hat here.


My wife is the lab director of a major hospital in a major
metropolitan city of the southeast.

She is the "Go to person" over a major metro area.
Brilliant, well informed and knows her shit beyond belief.

I have her sending me the daily updates from the CDC about
this Virus shit.



They run these tests all the time.

I have heard "ferritine and folate" lord knows how many times.

I asked, What about cytokine storms and ferritin?

Nope. What are you talking about?

The Docs aren't looking for it yet.

Just a heads up, GLP.

bf134a
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Thanks TN

I really think CS is the major cause flu deaths we have each year

Is something is causing our immune systems to go into overdrive ?
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Re: This Simple Test May Help Diagnose Cytokine Storm Early On, Remember The Name If You Get sick
KPM, and all.

Listen to me.

This Cytokine Storm is not on their radar.

That's why YOU have to be alert.

KPM is right.

YOU have to be the one to insist of the possibility.


UNDERSTAND: I'm not talking thru my hat here.


My wife is the lab director of a major hospital in a major
metropolitan city of the southeast.

She is the "Go to person" over a major metro area.
Brilliant, well informed and knows her shit beyond belief.

I have her sending me the daily updates from the CDC about
this Virus shit.



They run these tests all the time.

I have heard "ferritine and folate" lord knows how many times.

I asked, What about cytokine storms and ferritin?

Nope. What are you talking about?

The Docs aren't looking for it yet.

Just a heads up, GLP.

bf134a
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Thanks TN

I really think CS is the major cause flu deaths we have each year

Is something is causing our immune systems to go into overdrive ?
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Wow, Thanks TN & KPM for all the valuable info! hf

We have to watch out for ourselves. I live in a small town. If a big hospital isn't looking for this, I know our little hospital doesn't have a clue!

We take elderberry daily & it has kept us from getting sick. I guess that means if we get sick, we need to stop taking it. It's confusing because you think it will make you better faster, but instead could kill you.

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KPM, and all.

Listen to me.

This Cytokine Storm is not on their radar.

That's why YOU have to be alert.

KPM is right.

YOU have to be the one to insist of the possibility.


UNDERSTAND: I'm not talking thru my hat here.


My wife is the lab director of a major hospital in a major
metropolitan city of the southeast.

She is the "Go to person" over a major metro area.
Brilliant, well informed and knows her shit beyond belief.

I have her sending me the daily updates from the CDC about
this Virus shit.



They run these tests all the time.

I have heard "ferritine and folate" lord knows how many times.

I asked, What about cytokine storms and ferritin?

Nope. What are you talking about?

The Docs aren't looking for it yet.

Just a heads up, GLP.

bf134a
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Thanks TN

I really think CS is the major cause flu deaths we have each year

Is something is causing our immune systems to go into overdrive ?
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm just putting this out there. The Schumann resonance is all out of whack, so could the change in earth frequency have anything to do with CS being on the increase? Somehow changing the susceptibility?
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BigD, who knows!

We just need to be prepared and if we need to go in, have as much ammo as we can to question the care
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