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Novel Coronavirus 2019-nCoV is Not Proving to be Very Deadly Outside Hubei Province, Why Not?

 
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Novel Coronavirus 2019-nCoV is Not Proving to be Very Deadly Outside Hubei Province, Why Not?
The "novel coronavirus" 2019-nCoV hasn't proven to be very deadly at all outside Hubei Province. Only two deaths have been attributed to it so far outside China. One was Chinese, the other immunocompromised. And within China there have only been 37 reported outside Hubei Province. The highest reported in any other single province is 7.

Yet within Hubei Province the death toll is staggering, and there are plenty of reasons to believe that the dead number much higher than the 871 officially reported.

As of today 2/10/2020
910 reported deaths total
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871 in Hubei Province
37 the rest of China (highest in a single province 7)
2 deaths outside China (1 Chinese, 1 immunocompromised)

Few seem to be getting very sick or dying from it outside Hubei Province. The virus has spread for a couple months now, ample time for people to be dying from it if it was going to happen. But it hasn't happened... Why?

"If the Chinese government has been conducting human trials against SARS. MERS, or other coronviruses using recombined viruses, they may have made their citizens far more susceptible to acute respiratory distress syndrome upon infection with 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

The implications are clear: if China sensitized their population via a SARS vaccine, and this escaped from a lab, the rest of world has a serious humanitarian urgency to help China, but may not expect as serious an epidemic as might otherwise be expected."

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The animals in the coronavirus vaccine studies died over and over again of severe lung illness when exposed to other coronaviruses, even the common cold. So the researchers repeatedly warned against human testing.

“Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated”- Te et al., 2012"

But it looks like they thought they had it figured out?

I contend that the reason the people of Hubei Province are dying in vast numbers and the people outside Hubei Province are not is, the dying people of Hubei Province were given a faulty experimental coronavirus vaccine.

China's new mandatory vaccine law went into effect on December 1, 2019. Right at the beginning of this tragedy. Coincidence?

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So, where did the virus come from?

"The available evidence most strongly supports that the 2019-NCoV virus is a vaccine strain of coronavirus either accidentally released from a laboratory accident, perhaps a laboratory researcher becoming infected with the virus while conducting animal experiments, or the Chinese were performing clinical studies of a Coronavirus vaccine in humans."

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The novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV may actually have been shed by the people who received the deadly vaccine.
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This seems like the most plausible theory so far based on concrete evidence.
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
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WUHAN, Oct. 31 (Xinhua) -- The branches of Chinese major telecom operators in central China's Hubei Province announced Thursday the launch of commercial 5G applications in the province.

Wuhan City, the capital of Hubei, is expected to have 10,000 5G base stations by the end of 2019, said Song Qizhu, head of Hubei Provincial Communication Administration.

China Telecom has established a 5G network covering airports, railway stations and other areas in the city, which will also help boost the digital and intelligent transformation of the industries with 5G technologies, said Li Hongbo, general manager of the company's Hubei branch.

China Mobile Hubei Branch has activated 1,580 5G base stations in the city as of mid-October, achieving the 5G coverage of universities, transportation hubs and other densely populated areas, according to the branch.

[link to www.xinhuanet.com]

It took three months for 5G to completely eradicate the immunesystem of the people in Wuhan.

And that´s it.

5G is a lethal weapon.
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Factor in that they smoke like chimneys there and horrible pollution, they already have very bad lungs, so their reaction to coronavirus is much more severe than a healthy persons' reaction.
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
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I understand what you're saying, but we were saying that a week ago too. Will we still be saying it next week and the week after that?

More deaths should have happened outside China, and outside Hubei Province by now.

The six provinces that border Hubei Province have
6, 3, 1, 1, 2, an 0 deaths. Easily explainable by people that got the vaccine and traveled. If the virus alone was causing the deaths there should be significantly more in those neighboring provinces.
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Some Possibilities:

(1) Fatality numbers outside Hubei are highly suppressed.

(2) Lower fatality rate in the initial phase.

(3) Some unique mechanism/exposure in Hubei not found elsewhere.
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Some Possibilities:

(1) Fatality numbers outside Hubei are highly suppressed.

(2) Lower fatality rate in the initial phase.

(3) Some unique mechanism/exposure in Hubei not found elsewhere.
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(4) A deadly experimental vaccine was administered to the residents of Hubei Province.
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77852475


I understand what you're saying, but we were saying that a week ago too. Will we still be saying it next week and the week after that?

More deaths should have happened outside China, and outside Hubei Province by now.

The six provinces that border Hubei Province have
6, 3, 1, 1, 2, an 0 deaths. Easily explainable by people that got the vaccine and traveled. If the virus alone was causing the deaths there should be significantly more in those neighboring provinces.
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What happens on that Japanese cruiseliner over the next few days/weeks will tell us a lot about how it reacts outside of China, on a variety of ethnicities. Sadly, that whole ship is a petri dish case study.
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I truly believe it came from that lab
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Some Possibilities:

(1) Fatality numbers outside Hubei are highly suppressed.

(2) Lower fatality rate in the initial phase.

(3) Some unique mechanism/exposure in Hubei not found elsewhere.
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(4) A deadly experimental vaccine was administered to the residents of Hubei Province.
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That and other possibilities is what I meant under "unique mechanism/exposure".
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Bad vaccine is a terrific theory. Explains the govt's crazed need to suppress info/data/entry to researchers...and the insane lock down. They can't let their mistake fuck up the entire planet.
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Don't jinx it!
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
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hesright
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The vaccine theory does not adhere to the concrete fact that the disease has a central point and then it spreads.
If it was a bad vaccine then the whole of China would have had symptoms at the same time. At exactly the same time.
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77852475


I understand what you're saying, but we were saying that a week ago too. Will we still be saying it next week and the week after that?

More deaths should have happened outside China, and outside Hubei Province by now.

The six provinces that border Hubei Province have
6, 3, 1, 1, 2, an 0 deaths. Easily explainable by people that got the vaccine and traveled. If the virus alone was causing the deaths there should be significantly more in those neighboring provinces.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Yeah the other one is a bit tin foil hit but it does tingle my spider senses a little.
I think the huge overload of cases at epicenter may play a part? Once the system breaks down and no one is getting treatment the numbers get higher maybe? In the other zones the numbers are less and people are getting treatment etc? Dunno just a thought but you do raise a valid point hf

Maybe it is just a matter of time or maybe these lockdowns have mostly stopped the big spread outwards and condemned the people of Wuhan to a game of chance?
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I think everyone in the province is dead, dying or likely to soon.

Those vapour trucks you see are fumigating and spraying the perimeter so nothing leaves this area. Like Chernobyl. The panic of how bad it got is why everywhere else went on lock down. Just incase.

Wuhan is probably now a ghost city. They want everyone there on lock down so they can clear up the bodies building by building and not have the chance the media will sneak a pic of bodies littering the streets as people die randomly everywhere. Why else does it look so quiet? It's impossible.

A few months of mass cremation. Sped up by gas camps. Most families stay and live together right? The same apartment? How many outside the city would know they existed if families are in the same city.

Those that live together get wiped out without a trace together.

And just like that, an entire city erased.

There's no other explanation for the reaction unless this was a greater danger than we e been told. China has frozen itself economically. Its unheard of.

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why are you trusting the numbers coming from china?
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Wuhan had a head start. It was not until the Chinese New Year exodus that the other places got started. Every place that has its hospitals overwhelmed will experience the same things. So many are infected in Wuhan that the majority of infected have never even been admitted to a hospital.

Wuhan is 2 months ahead of everywhere else. This shit started there in November 2019. January of 2020 is when the Chinese launched wave after wave of biological attacks on the rest of the world by loading plane after plane with the infected. By March all of these attacks will begin to bear fruit and all of the hospitals will be overrun everywhere the Chinese sent their biological attacks.
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^^^This.

Also every Government is deathly afraid of causing a panic.
Updates on infected and deaths is already drying up.
We will hear very little until they can hide it no longer.
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why are you trusting the numbers coming from china?
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Finally, somebody else is waking up to what both the stats and I have been saying for many days now. I still think the “bat soup”, is the cause of the outbreak and the Chinese have done a far better job of containing the spread than they have been given credit for.

Also, I have this very nasty habit of being right, about things I figure out for myself.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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The theory is reasonable, but it makes no sense to me that none of the people of Wuhan have mentioned being mass vaccinated or suspect becoming sick from the vaccine. We have seen enough videos to have seen them talk about it.
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Finally, somebody else is waking up to what both the stats and I have been saying for many days now. I still think the “bat soup”, is the cause of the outbreak and the Chinese have done a far better job of containing the spread than they have been given credit for.

Also, I have this very nasty habit of being right, about things I figure out for myself.
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That theory has already been debunked. The virus has many signs of alterations(Made in a Lab).
Time will tell how this plays out. In the mean time I would prepare for the worst just in case.
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Just remember this thread a couple weeks from now when the virus has failed to cause the expected pandemic.

And don't buy the bullshit theory they will be pushing that China and the WHO did such a great job containing the outbreak. And that's the reason we didn't have a global pandemic. Oh, and of course that they'll have a new vaccine for you very soon.
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This seems like the most plausible theory so far based on concrete evidence.
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Agreed.
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The theory is reasonable, but it makes no sense to me that none of the people of Wuhan have mentioned being mass vaccinated or suspect becoming sick from the vaccine. We have seen enough videos to have seen them talk about it.
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Unless they don’t know. I have wondered if it somehow has been spread through air or water supply in the region. Vaccine theory could still hold if they were trying a new method of distribution without people’s consent?

Far fetched but I’d believe nearly anything at this point. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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why are you trusting the numbers coming from china?
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I don't but it's all we have to work with.

I think many thousands maybe even tens of thousands have already been cremated in Hubei Province.

The only two deaths outside China are enough to suggest something strange is going on imo. Let alone the fact one was Chinese, and the other had "underlying illness".
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lmao, amazing logic

Guess you didn't manage to rub your two brain cells together and figure the lack of test kits and labs into your calculating

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The theory is reasonable, but it makes no sense to me that none of the people of Wuhan have mentioned being mass vaccinated or suspect becoming sick from the vaccine. We have seen enough videos to have seen them talk about it.
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Unless they don’t know. I have wondered if it somehow has been spread through air or water supply in the region. Vaccine theory could still hold if they were trying a new method of distribution without people’s consent?

Far fetched but I’d believe nearly anything at this point. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Or, they just thought they got the flu vaccine like they did many times before. And didn't get sick until some time later, so failed to make the connection?
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lmao, amazing logic

Guess you didn't manage to rub your two brain cells together and figure the lack of test kits and labs into your calculating

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That might explain some faulty numbers of "infected", but it doesn't explain why people don't seem to be dying of it outside Hubei Province.
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possible severe local air pollution recently has weakened lungs of residents? Pneumonia (also cytokine storm) is the big killer I'm sure. I know China has had severe air pollution in certain industrial areas.





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