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CDC screwd up! 14 of the people they just flew to US have COVID 19!!!

 
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American citizens have a right to return, but will be quarantined and treated/studied. I don't see anything wrong with CDC taking on these additional cases/test-subjects.
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Look up the ms westerdam. You idiots have exactly what you want in plain sight.
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This is about an American CDC evac, not Cambodian or Malaysian. American CDC has no responsibility or control over poor practices by third world SE Asian countries.
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American citizens have a right to return, but will be quarantined and treated/studied. I don't see anything wrong with CDC taking on these additional cases/test-subjects.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Really...then why don't you fucking volunteer to be infected and then studied....you are talking out your ass...especially if they are purposely letting people get infected so that they can "study" it...fuck that noise....
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The PLA infected them, not American CDC. Moran.
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American citizens have a right to return, but will be quarantined and treated/studied. I don't see anything wrong with CDC taking on these additional cases/test-subjects.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Look up the ms westerdam. You idiots have exactly what you want in plain sight.
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This is about an American CDC evac, not Cambodian or Malaysian. American CDC has no responsibility or control over poor practices by third world SE Asian countries.
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They dont? You know they fly into the United states and all their travel history is logged. Yes, CDC has jurisdiction retard
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American citizens have a right to return, but will be quarantined and treated/studied. I don't see anything wrong with CDC taking on these additional cases/test-subjects.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Really...then why don't you fucking volunteer to be infected and then studied....you are talking out your ass...especially if they are purposely letting people get infected so that they can "study" it...fuck that noise....
 Quoting: Kilroywashere 78449028


The PLA infected them, not American CDC. Moran.
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The U.S. military needs direct access to more cases to study this PLA bioweapon and protect America.
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You can call me paranoid but I think I am just rational. What idiots test someone for a virus 2-3 days before leaving? Why aren't they testing people on the day of departure. So, like I said, who else on the flight has it? Wonder how often they test/re-test people while in quarantine?
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I believe results take a few days. I guess they wanted results prior to flying them back. Call me awful, but I dont think we should be chartering flights for ppl who got sick over there. Fly meds or doctors to help them, but stop bringing sick ppl here!! All 300 Americans on that ship should be quarantined for 30 days.
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I'm wondering what they are doing to clean every nook and cranny of all these planes they are using to fly these people all over. If the virus lives for so long, then the next batch of passengers will be subject to being infected.


Yes starting to look like a plan to depopulate. Or for some forced vaccination that they want everyone to have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77928748


Thats a good question
Can those aircraft ever be disinfected?
That cruise ship in Japan needs to be burned after they get everyone off
Maybe the WHO needs to lease an island offshore in Asia and turn it into a hot zone quarantine base staffed by WHO
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That's a good idea!
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American citizens have a right to return, but will be quarantined and treated/studied. I don't see anything wrong with CDC taking on these additional cases/test-subjects.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Look up the ms westerdam. You idiots have exactly what you want in plain sight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74517865


This is about an American CDC evac, not Cambodian or Malaysian. American CDC has no responsibility or control over poor practices by third world SE Asian countries.
 Quoting: Weyoun


They dont? You know they fly into the United states and all their travel history is logged. Yes, CDC has jurisdiction retard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74517865


How does CDC control Malaysian or Cambodian poor practices, explain? And anyone can fake their travel history due to Malayan/Cambodian govt corruption which CDC also has no control over. Should a CDC submarine have sunked that ship before it docked in Cambodia?

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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!


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Exactly!! At tax payers expense!! Guess what, when I got stung by a toxic jellyfish overseas I was on my own! I had to pay for care and get better before I came back home. And i wasnt even contagious. why bring these sick ppl back to spread it. It should be understood. If you fly into the hot zone of a virus, you're on your own.
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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!


 Quoting: Backwash


Exactly!! At tax payers expense!! Guess what, when I got stung by a toxic jellyfish overseas I was on my own! I had to pay for care and get better before I came back home. And i wasnt even contagious. why bring these sick ppl back to spread it. It should be understood. If you fly into the hot zone of a virus, you're on your own.
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It's under DoD jurisdiction due to this being a chycom bioweapon. If your jelly fish was a PLA bioweapon too, you could get "free" quarantine, treatment, and study by DoD too. Getting experimented on by the military isn't exactly a free ride.
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Why is it a screw up? Better for them to be in our care and study at a military base.

It is a screw up because thus far, until 'this' - all infected were removed from ship and taken to hospital in Japan immediately. These are the first ones that were NOT put in to hospital.

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It wasn't a screw up that's why they had the inflight containment. Either way we need more people with the virus so we can actually study the virus. It's a good thing. There will be more evacuees with the virus. Count on it.
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I'm wondering what they are doing to clean every nook and cranny of all these planes they are using to fly these people all over. If the virus lives for so long, then the next batch of passengers will be subject to being infected.


Yes starting to look like a plan to depopulate. Or for some forced vaccination that they want everyone to have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77928748


Thats a good question
Can those aircraft ever be disinfected?
That cruise ship in Japan needs to be burned after they get everyone off
Maybe the WHO needs to lease an island offshore in Asia and turn it into a hot zone quarantine base staffed by WHO
 Quoting: dodger007


they were allegedly chartered planes.

You can call me paranoid but I think I am just rational. What idiots test someone for a virus 2-3 days before leaving? Why aren't they testing people on the day of departure. So, like I said, who else on the flight has it? Wonder how often they test/re-test people while in quarantine?
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I believe results take a few days. I guess they wanted results prior to flying them back. Call me awful, but I dont think we should be chartering flights for ppl who got sick over there. Fly meds or doctors to help them, but stop bringing sick ppl here!! All 300 Americans on that ship should be quarantined for 30 days.
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Honestly, the way it's going - 45 days would be better. They are letting the rest of the people on ship leave on Wed, Feb 19.

*Agree, I don't go jumping on cruise ships because they are always having problems of some sort - be it sickness, water, wrecks, etc. So if they are foolish enough to go floating around with all their money and leisure time, we should not have to pay for their crap.
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oops put my top response inside quote ....
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oops put my top response inside quote ....
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The CDC cannot study and experiment on them at a jap hospital like they can at a U.S. military base. There's also the greater risk of chycom spies in a jap hospital sabotaging the patients or our research.
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They just brought back 2 flights of people and said they were all OK but going to be quarantained here 14 days. Well, well, well, lookie - inflight 14 were diagnosed with the virusw!!@!

Idiots or evil - you decide..

Just saw it on FOX. Will look for link!
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"Screwed up" would imply that it was a mistake and not intentional.
Come on and take a free ride.
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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!



If you are ever among hundreds of American tourists stranded in a foreign country due to a disaster, thank your lucky stars you have a govt that takes responsibility for your well being and safe repatriation
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Guess? I'm the only one thinking about the Whole of the country USA than myself getting the Hell out.

Now I read "99 cases have been confirmed aboard the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan."

This isn't having a heart attack or injury you buy insurance to get your ass back to the states. Yes! they have that.

Now it begs the question.. We Bring 300 people back to SAVE which have unknown #'s infected at this time? From something We have no clue about? What or How long this Coronavirus last's? Could be 14 days could be 90+ days? Who the hell knows? Only to Infect millions if it breaks out across the country.

From the information I have read and heard. You "Contain" the situation.

When I go Out of Country, I know the risks I take. It's the price of doing Business, Period. Sorry, that's just me.
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oops put my top response inside quote ....
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The CDC cannot study and experiment on them at a jap hospital like they can at a U.S. military base. There's also the greater risk of chycom spies in a jap hospital sabotaging the patients or our research.
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The last thing we need now is chycom spies at a jap hospital messing with our research and preventing us from countering their WMD bioweapon. These patients need to be quarantined and studied in highly secured U.S. military base.

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Fourteen Americans who were evacuated from a cruise ship in Japan on Monday were placed in segregated areas of a chartered flight after they were found to have the new coronavirus shortly before boarding the plane to the United States, American officials said.


The passengers were among more than 300 Americans aboard a cruise ship that was been quarantined in Yokohama for more than 10 days. United States officials initially said they would not allow infected people to board the evacuation flights, but appeared to reverse that decision early Monday.

“During the evacuation process, after passengers had disembarked the ship and initiated transport to the airport, U.S. officials received notice that 14 passengers, who had been tested 2-3 days earlier, had tested positive for COVID-19,” the State Department and Department of Health and Human Services said in a joint statement, referring to the disease caused by the new coronavirus.

The 14 infected passengers were moved into a specialized containment area on the evacuation aircraft, where they were to be isolated and monitored. They had been found to be asymptomatic and “fit to fly” before the evacuation, according to the statement.

At least one flight landed on Monday morning at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, Calif. All passengers on that flight will undergo a 14-day quarantine. Those that develop symptoms or test positive will be sent to “an appropriate location for continued isolation and care,” the statement added.

The United States has 15 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus. That number will nearly double when the 14 infected passengers arrive.



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Oh crap
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They are killing us off
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You can call me paranoid but I think I am just rational. What idiots test someone for a virus 2-3 days before leaving? Why aren't they testing people on the day of departure. So, like I said, who else on the flight has it? Wonder how often they test/re-test people while in quarantine?
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The culture has to be grown. That itself can take a couple of days.
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They just brought back 2 flights of people and said they were all OK but going to be quarantained here 14 days. Well, well, well, lookie - inflight 14 were diagnosed with the virusw!!@!

Idiots or evil - you decide..

Just saw it on FOX. Will look for link!
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They already knew they had it. It was not discovered mid-flight.
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So, that means the people that they are quarantining for 14 days may have it. What if it is true that incubation can be up to 24 days.

Or, what if one person in any of the quarantined areas comes down with the virus, do they then start the quarantine clock again for the ones who don't seem to have it? OF COURSE, they should - but I serious doubt they would.

Our government (Any government) cannot be trusted to do what is in our best interest either due to ulterior motives, incompetence or evilness.

Here is the link for those who do subscribe.

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Wow...you sure are full of assumptions....all wrong, of course.

Starting the quarantine clock over again is precisely what they do....damn, don't ya just hate it when they ruin your little rant.
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I'm wondering what they are doing to clean every nook and cranny of all these planes they are using to fly these people all over. If the virus lives for so long, then the next batch of passengers will be subject to being infected.


Yes starting to look like a plan to depopulate. Or for some forced vaccination that they want everyone to have.
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They were flown on a converted cargo 747. They put in first class seats (which will probably be thrown away after) but the floor is just a hard surface, cabin won't be well heated.

After this flight they probably remove and burn the seats, disinfect inside with very strong stuff and/or UV robot, and put it back in service for cargo.

And the State Dept. took their passports. They're coming in in custody.

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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!


 Quoting: Backwash


If you are ever among hundreds of American tourists stranded in a foreign country due to a disaster, thank your lucky stars you have a govt that takes responsibility for your well being and safe repatriation
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Safe repatriation? Safe for who? Have you been paying attention? The incubation period is unknown, and may be as long as 94 days. They don't have any idea what they are dealing with, yet. They could be bringing this deadly virus to America with no idea how to stop, or even control it.
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They just brought back 2 flights of people and said they were all OK but going to be quarantained here 14 days. Well, well, well, lookie - inflight 14 were diagnosed with the virusw!!@!

Idiots or evil - you decide..

Just saw it on FOX. Will look for link!
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I believe that this is 100% intentional.
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I'm wondering what they are doing to clean every nook and cranny of all these planes they are using to fly these people all over. If the virus lives for so long, then the next batch of passengers will be subject to being infected.


Yes starting to look like a plan to depopulate. Or for some forced vaccination that they want everyone to have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77928748


Thats a good question
Can those aircraft ever be disinfected?
That cruise ship in Japan needs to be burned after they get everyone off
Maybe the WHO needs to lease an island offshore in Asia and turn it into a hot zone quarantine base staffed by WHO
 Quoting: dodger007


That's a good idea!
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Could we send all WHO and CDC management to the island, where they can do less harm to the rest of us?
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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!



If you are ever among hundreds of American tourists stranded in a foreign country due to a disaster, thank your lucky stars you have a govt that takes responsibility for your well being and safe repatriation
 Quoting: Backwash


Guess? I'm the only one thinking about the Whole of the country USA than myself getting the Hell out.

Now I read "99 cases have been confirmed aboard the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan."

This isn't having a heart attack or injury you buy insurance to get your ass back to the states. Yes! they have that.

Now it begs the question.. We Bring 300 people back to SAVE which have unknown #'s infected at this time? From something We have no clue about? What or How long this Coronavirus last's? Could be 14 days could be 90+ days? Who the hell knows? Only to Infect millions if it breaks out across the country.

From the information I have read and heard. You "Contain" the situation.

When I go Out of Country, I know the risks I take. It's the price of doing Business, Period. Sorry, that's just me.
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I totally agree. I like Samaritan's Purse but it really pissed me off when they brought back to the US that American doctor who had contracted Ebola. That is BS. You leave the country, take your chances. And, I, totally, don't respect that doctor who willing returned to the U.S.
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What Sane Country brings infected back to the US?

So, It's OUR fault they choose to go on a trip to Japan and we have to pay for their Rotten decision.

Un Fing believable!



If you are ever among hundreds of American tourists stranded in a foreign country due to a disaster, thank your lucky stars you have a govt that takes responsibility for your well being and safe repatriation
 Quoting: Backwash


Guess? I'm the only one thinking about the Whole of the country USA than myself getting the Hell out.

Now I read "99 cases have been confirmed aboard the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan."

This isn't having a heart attack or injury you buy insurance to get your ass back to the states. Yes! they have that.

Now it begs the question.. We Bring 300 people back to SAVE which have unknown #'s infected at this time? From something We have no clue about? What or How long this Coronavirus last's? Could be 14 days could be 90+ days? Who the hell knows? Only to Infect millions if it breaks out across the country.

From the information I have read and heard. You "Contain" the situation.

When I go Out of Country, I know the risks I take. It's the price of doing Business, Period. Sorry, that's just me.
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Travel insurance wont get you home if you are in forced quarantine and not allowed to leave. But gonna bet the insurer or the cruise line will be reimbursing the US taxpayer for this evacuation.

Why are you so angry about 300 Americans being rescued from an unsafe situation they had NO FAULT in causing? The longer they stayed the more of thrm were getting infected on that ship which was NOT operating in full hot zone mode to protect them.

This cruise started in January. The passenger that started it got OFF the ship in Hongkong on Jan 30. And showed up sick 4-5 days later after the ship sailed.

Were average tourists even aware of this virus in mid January? Were there any specific USG health advisories against travel?

You get stung by a jellyfish and have to pay your own costs, you were a cheap gambler that did not buy trip insurance with medical coverage. About $300.

This is not even close comparison. This is 300 Americans caught in a dangerous crisis with no safe resolution in the host country, useless travel insurance to break a constantly resetting quarantine based on unknown disease parameters, and no one willing to fly them home without USG intervention.

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Kalitta Airlines is bringing back most of the people. My neighbor's granddaughter is engaged to a guy who works for Kalitta. Was told that the flight crew did not take any precautions when transporting these people. So, maybe when the granddaugher goes out to CA to see him or he comes to see her, we can welcome the virus into Ohio.
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I'm wondering what they are doing to clean every nook and cranny of all these planes they are using to fly these people all over. If the virus lives for so long, then the next batch of passengers will be subject to being infected.


Yes starting to look like a plan to depopulate. Or for some forced vaccination that they want everyone to have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77928748


Thats a good question
Can those aircraft ever be disinfected?
That cruise ship in Japan needs to be burned after they get everyone off
Maybe the WHO needs to lease an island offshore in Asia and turn it into a hot zone quarantine base staffed by WHO
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Hazmat companies can make a mint. Good investments for public traded firms. Insurers of cruise liners are gonna be hit though. There are some Carnival issues on investments with bonds due. President hasn't bailed them yet. Should be pushed thru though, imo.
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Messed UP" no this is exactly as they planned I have no idea why they are doing what they are doing but from what I have seen they are doing everything to spread this shit EVERYWHERE while appearing to be trying to take measures to control it. I went to nursing school a pandemic is not to be handled like this. You do not move people from one country bring them back then take them to 2 DIFFERENT STATES they talk of a 2 week quarantine but they have NO IDEA how long this needs to be monitored. IF this is not some false flag thing it is POPULATION control no doubt about it. If that is the truth then KNOW OUR government is in on it.





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