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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
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well, what do you 2 eat? Tomatoes? Eggplant?

I don't think it would be a waste of time....do it!
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start small. Raised beds, even growing in 5 gal pails sunk 1/2-2/3rds in ground. Holes drilled in bottoms of buckets

Grow only what you know you will eat.

start small, otherwise you will be overwhelmed and see no production.

Potatoes are a good start. Peas and lettuces can be planted already in the southern half of the country.
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There are about a billion videos about beginner gardening on youtube, look for ones specific to your area so you don't try to grow something that doesn't work well in your area. Good luck, it can be rewarding and fun. hf
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permies.com is the place to learn all about organic gardening, farming, livestock to alt energy and construction methods.
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what state do you live in ? Do you have any flowers beds ? Do you have any woods around you? The ground in the woods is black gold.
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Eh can't that turn into illegal area slurping, or eh our back yard has 0.5m mud, so that would be 3 years max, grass is way better.

Oh pottery,.... Ohyeah
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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
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mhpgardener on youtube has a wealth of information. Everything from hydroponics to regular gardening. If you can get heirloom seeds, get them. Learn all you can about saving the seeds for next year. There are a lot of videos on youtube about this.

It is something that will always be valuable to know. And you will be surprised at how much you can grow in a small area if you make a plan. It is also relaxing.
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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


mhpgardener on youtube has a wealth of information. Everything from hydroponics to regular gardening. If you can get heirloom seeds, get them. Learn all you can about saving the seeds for next year. There are a lot of videos on youtube about this.

It is something that will always be valuable to know. And you will be surprised at how much you can grow in a small area if you make a plan. It is also relaxing.
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Expensive and takes years to cultivate.

Raised beds, soil, sand, peat, quality seeds, hydroponics growing system for seeds, a year of time for the plants to take and start producing, watering supplies hoses with attachments, rakes, spades, critter protection, bug problem solvers, nosey neighbors, heat solutions, wheelbarrows. and then replacement soil, sand, peat.

Better to get chickens. If they are a pet you can keep them in the city. But chicken poop smells bad and hawks will try to eat them.
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Expensive and takes years to cultivate.

Raised beds, soil, sand, peat, quality seeds, hydroponics growing system for seeds, a year of time for the plants to take and start producing, watering supplies hoses with attachments, rakes, spades, critter protection, bug problem solvers, nosey neighbors, heat solutions, wheelbarrows. and then replacement soil, sand, peat.

Better to get chickens. If they are a pet you can keep them in the city. But chicken poop smells bad and hawks will try to eat them.
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What are you going on about?
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Pretty nice, still an headache... More on the right side where my right ear is, but fine for the rest, I even had more money over today then that I normally do /:
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Expensive and takes years to cultivate.

Raised beds, soil, sand, peat, quality seeds, hydroponics growing system for seeds, a year of time for the plants to take and start producing, watering supplies hoses with attachments, rakes, spades, critter protection, bug problem solvers, nosey neighbors, heat solutions, wheelbarrows. and then replacement soil, sand, peat.

Better to get chickens. If they are a pet you can keep them in the city. But chicken poop smells bad and hawks will try to eat them.
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it is not a good idea to give people shit info in times like this

gardening is not hard and not expensive if you have some common sense

the more people that plant a garden will relieve pressure on the system down the road for all the tards
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Expensive and takes years to cultivate.

Raised beds, soil, sand, peat, quality seeds, hydroponics growing system for seeds, a year of time for the plants to take and start producing, watering supplies hoses with attachments, rakes, spades, critter protection, bug problem solvers, nosey neighbors, heat solutions, wheelbarrows. and then replacement soil, sand, peat.

Better to get chickens. If they are a pet you can keep them in the city. But chicken poop smells bad and hawks will try to eat them.
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it is not a good idea to give people shit info in times like this

gardening is not hard and not expensive if you have some common sense

the more people that plant a garden will relieve pressure on the system down the road for all the tards
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No shit. Everything she typed sounds like utter BS or disinfo. "years to cultivate?" Is she growing grapes and orchards, or just a dumb teenage city slicker who's never walked on a patch of grass?
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Expensive and takes years to cultivate.

Raised beds, soil, sand, peat, quality seeds, hydroponics growing system for seeds, a year of time for the plants to take and start producing, watering supplies hoses with attachments, rakes, spades, critter protection, bug problem solvers, nosey neighbors, heat solutions, wheelbarrows. and then replacement soil, sand, peat.

Better to get chickens. If they are a pet you can keep them in the city. But chicken poop smells bad and hawks will try to eat them.
 Quoting: MissCleo


it is not a good idea to give people shit info in times like this

gardening is not hard and not expensive if you have some common sense

the more people that plant a garden will relieve pressure on the system down the road for all the tards
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No shit. Everything she typed sounds like utter BS or disinfo. "years to cultivate?" Is she growing grapes and orchards, or just a dumb teenage city slicker who's never walked on a patch of grass?
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probably uses miracle grow products lol
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Re: small garden help
I am a non-gardener who has never done enough to get good at it. My go-to plan is...

The Square Foot Garden.

IMO, there is no better beginner method out there. The info is Oder, yes, but tried-and -true. The author went all around the world in his later years to teach developing countries how to build this very simple garden.

The Square Foot Garden was developed by an engineer. It is a turn-key method, a true step-by-step guide to “making vegetables” in your yard. Focuses on small-space situations also. You only need a 4 x 4 plot (or less, really!) to grow.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

E-text $11.95. Probably a regular ebook somewhere. I am not tech savvy.

There are a LOT of knock-offs of this method, as it works and has been around awhile. But I think his book is still the best, has been used in every imaginable situation, and he DOESN’T OVERCOMPLICATE EVERYTHING. This is where I was always getting lost!

This is what I am working on today, actually.

Nutritionists say greens are an important nutrient benefit. It is what I use most. Lettuces grow, and you can cut what you need as you go. They keep growing, and you just cut another salad tomorrow. And you have a usable crop prey quickly! Plant enough to harvest some as “baby greens” and keep some to grow to maturity later. Kale and collards too. You can grow kale and collards in hot weather too, surprisingly.

Really, look at his stuff. It was written for the people like me who have never done this before. Good luck!
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Whatever it is you are planning, you had better get to it before it's too late to purchase your supplies. Buy a few bedding plants that are very productive, like tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini and yellow squash, some lettuce, radishes, if enough room, green beans.
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Pick a spot 5 feet by 5 feet and turn the soil.

Shovel full by shovel full just turn the grass upside down to kill it. You'll begin to get an understanding of how much work you're about to get into.

Think of danielson waxing the car...WAX ON...WAX OFF!
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make sure you have full sun in the area you pick
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Potatoes are your friend.

They are a super food. Potatoes contain everything you need to live. You could survive on just them. Plus they keep for a very long time.

I'm still eating on last year's crop.

You just keep them in a cool, dry, dark place they will last over the winter and much of the spring and whats left will eye out and you can plant those.

Beans are a good crop to have. White Half Runner beans are delicious. Can be canned in a pressure cooker. Or the beans can be dried out.
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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
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Its a good time to sow seeds indoors and have them by a window. When they have 2 true new leaves - their 'true leaves', you can carefully repot them and keep by sunny windows. True leaves are the second pair of leaves on a seedling

You can dig over a bed, make it weed free. The first soil you use, if only been used for lawn might be poor but still full of nutrients and will be better than nothing. Till the soil until the large lumps are gone in the first 4 to 6 inches. Remove stones. You should be able to easily scoop the soil in your hands when properly tilled.

When the seedling plants are stronger and your last frost has passed (look up last frost date for your area) you can plant them out.

Many pests like our veg, you will need to think about some kind of netting cover for most veg. No need so much for Alliums (onions and leeks) Brassicas (cabbage, broccoli etc) do require nets and regular checks for slug damage.

Good luck
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Pick a spot 5 feet by 5 feet and turn the soil.

Shovel full by shovel full just turn the grass upside down to kill it. You'll begin to get an understanding of how much work you're about to get into.

Think of danielson waxing the car...WAX ON...WAX OFF!
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Remove the top layer of weeds like rolling up sections of carpet, then remove any remaining roots or you will spend all your time weeding. Just plowing them in and turning them over will not kill them all, old seeds and roots will continue to grow.
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Do not fight nature, find out what grows well in your area and stick within that. Plant things that have the longest storage life for winter.
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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
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Plant what you'll eat.

Feed the soil with organic matter.

Get your soul right with copious amounts of manure killed in let it Rock plant mulch.

if you can find a first edition rodale's encyclopedia of organic gardening by it.
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By the way those little Mantis tillers work awesome.
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I want to make my small backyard into a veggie garden. What do I do and what should I plant for a family of 2.

I don't know what the fuck I am doing btw. Probably just wasting my time.
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Pick up canning supplies while there are still available at the stores !!! You will want to preserve as many veggies as you can to get you through the winter.Buy a book on canning. Canning is time consuming, but it could save you from starving to death.

As for the garden, plant rows of corn, and then plant squash seeds about every 3ft down the rows of corn. This saves space, as the vines really spread. This also helps to keep weeds out of the corn patch. Any vine veggie can be planted among the rows of corn, including cucumbers, if you don't like squash.

Buy bush green bean seeds.They are easier to maintain than the vine type. Don't forget, tomato's,onions, and peppers. You can always do canning on the extra's. Onions and garlic are a must, and they grow very well in most soils. They are very hardy. Let some go to seed. Plant potato's. If properly stored in a cool, dry place they can last the whole winter long.

Get a gardening book !
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Plant root crops to get through the winter.

If you have a choice, select varieties from the north - they have names like Siberian, Arctic, etc. There's a difference in growing days. The ones with shorter amount of growing days are your best bet.

I recommend the following root crops:

Mangels
Turnips
Parsnips
Carrots
Rutabagas

Why root crops? Because a hailstorm won't wipe you out.

Above ground crops:

Cabbage
Beans (dry)
Acorn Squash (will keep 6 months no refrigeration on your countertop!)
Any winter squash
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All of the seed packets tell you how to plant them.

Get a book on SEED SAVING. You have to know how to harvest your seeds so you can have them again for next year.
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start small. Raised beds, even growing in 5 gal pails sunk 1/2-2/3rds in ground. Holes drilled in bottoms of buckets

Grow only what you know you will eat.

start small, otherwise you will be overwhelmed and see no production.

Potatoes are a good start. Peas and lettuces can be planted already in the southern half of the country.
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Been gardening for quite awhile. I vote for this.

Get started, but keep it manageable. You may be tempted to grow all kinds of crops, but keep it simple to start.

As others above also mentioned, I recommend root crops/tubers. Get your seed potatoes soon because they may not be on the shelves for long. Best of luck and enjoy
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I am a non-gardener who has never done enough to get good at it. My go-to plan is...

The Square Foot Garden.

IMO, there is no better beginner method out there. The info is older, yes, but tried-and -true. The author went all around the world in his later years to teach developing countries how to build this very simple garden.

The Square Foot Garden was developed by an engineer. It is a turn-key method, a true step-by-step guide to “making vegetables” in your yard. Focuses on small-space situations also. You only need a 4 x 4 plot (or less, really!) to grow.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

E-text $11.95. Probably a regular ebook somewhere. I am not tech savvy.

There are a LOT of knock-offs of this method, as it works and has been around awhile. But I think his book is still the best, has been used in every imaginable situation, and he DOESN’T OVERCOMPLICATE EVERYTHING. This is where I was always getting lost!

This is what I am working on today, actually.

Nutritionists say greens are an important nutrient benefit. It is what I use most. Lettuces grow, and you can cut what you need as you go. They keep growing, and you just cut another salad tomorrow. And you have a usable crop prey quickly! Plant enough to harvest some as “baby greens” and keep some to grow to maturity later. Kale and collards too. You can grow kale and collards in hot weather too, surprisingly.

Really, look at his stuff. It was written for the people like me who have never done this before. Good luck!
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I have used regular store-bought potatoes as seed potatoes, after they were eyeing out. Worked fine. The sprouting inhibitor must not be stone. I plant in pots as I have voles in my yard.





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