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Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?)

 
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Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?)
Presuppositions built on presuppositions.

They are building generators not ventilators! presupposition #1

Why would they need to build generators? For an EMP! presupposition #2

That is now how the Truth Community is supposed to work. We are supposed to find EVIDENCE, PROOF, that generators are being built, THEN we ask "Wait, why are they building generators, instead of ventilators"
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I agree. This is all theory based on speculation. Borderline baseless, but it's all we have.

I'm taking what little info I do have and extrapolating data from that, which we can reasonably assume.

From there, we need to corroborate the claims we've made, which we're tying to do.

A plausible theory is on the table. Lets see if we can find out what's going on the Ford and GM plants and get additional supporting data for any of the other theory's made.

With what little data we have and no real direction, this is the best we can do until we start to build solid facts around something.
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Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all.

I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon.

It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this?

On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels.

It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present.
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Problem with this is, you have experience in the medical field, not the field of manufacturing. You are massively underestimating how quickly things can happen when you have the full force of the US government behind you.
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HELL OF ALOT OF HUGE ASSUMPTIONS.

"This whole theory is based on (PASSES OR FAILS )ON ONE thing. THE WORD "GENERATORS".

GM MADE GUNS AND TANKS IN WWII

Manufacturers can tool up their machinery (Stamping presses, CNC machining centers) to make almost anything.
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Good point and correct however, during WW2 assembly lines went from bolting pig iron together to build cars to bolting pig iron together to build tanks and as you point out..guns.
Even then the change over took how long?

A big technology leap today from building a car to building a precision electronic device.

First,,,the components...where are the circuit boards coming from? Mexico or China?

And what about the other sub components?
Since it is a health care device what important inspections and check out will be required? Can you or I do that with a couple hours training?

A view of how complicated the task to build vents are read some of this article...
[link to dnyuz.com (secure)]

Converting an assembly line can be done but by the time the first vent rolls off the line for shipment how many months or years are we talking?
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I don’t think it’s respirators.

I posted this info on another thread last week.
There’s a small respirator manufacturing company located in a town nearby. It was on the local news that they had many respirators ready and available and can take orders to make more.

They’d had some inquiries but No orders.

On the news clip, they showed all these respirators they had.
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Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all.

I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon.

It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this?

On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels.

It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present.
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Problem with this is, you have experience in the medical field, not the field of manufacturing. You are massively underestimating how quickly things can happen when you have the full force of the US government behind you.
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Both of you have solid points..but the reasonable argument is the physical obstacles faced to re-tool among many others. I am willing to bet many of the components needed to build a ventilator come from several off shore sources,,,China being one of them.

Now what?
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Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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I can agree, that I believe he was inserting info. I don't agree that it was a slip, nor is it EMP related.

The whole theory is nill if he was referencing something like oxygen generators.

No doubt it would most likely be oxygen....but the medical world is filled with different types of generators: Ozone, hydrogen, nitrogen, HVAC air purifying generators (I'm not referencing UV-C)...the list goes on.

Thus, I don't believe anyone can make the jump and say IT IS electrical / EMP related.

On the ammo/gun comment - I think the answer is more simple. Election season is coming up, it is his way to ensure that his support base are supported when tensions are high....free marketing. I would go as far to say, it calms down his supporters (as most supporters have at least some tolerance with guns. Thereby keeping them 'thinking more clearly'

just my two cents
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So how do generators help if it’s an emp?

They’re still electrical, correct?

What if you have solar power? Is that going to not work?
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So how do generators help if it’s an emp?

They’re still electrical, correct?

What if you have solar power? Is that going to not work?
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All military generators manufactured today are EMP resistant. Starting with the TQG series and now their current AMMPS models.

I repair and resell these in the consumer market. The EMP-proofing consists of a massive amount of ground wires tied to every single electrical component on the generator to draw away the EMP. It's fairly simple to do but requires a ton of extra wiring. I'm sure anything being made is required to meet those specs. Besides, generators would likely be used AFTER the event.

Solar and wind will be destroyed. The huge electromagnetic pulse picked up by the wires drawing the generated electricity away from the solar array or wind generator will travel right up to the array and burn out sensitive components, PCB traces, alternator windings, etc.

Unless substantial and proper grounding is in place, you're screwed. Even then, it's no guarantee your equipment will survive. Unless it's offline and in a faraday cage.
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Doomful post
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HELL OF ALOT OF HUGE ASSUMPTIONS.

"This whole theory is based on (PASSES OR FAILS )ON ONE thing. THE WORD "GENERATORS".

GM MADE GUNS AND TANKS IN WWII

Manufacturers can tool up their machinery (Stamping presses, CNC machining centers) to make almost anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498



Good point and correct however, during WW2 assembly lines went from bolting pig iron together to build cars to bolting pig iron together to build tanks and as you point out..guns.
Even then the change over took how long?

A big technology leap today from building a car to building a precision electronic device.

First,,,the components...where are the circuit boards coming from? Mexico or China?

And what about the other sub components?
Since it is a health care device what important inspections and check out will be required? Can you or I do that with a couple hours training?

A view of how complicated the task to build vents are read some of this article...
[link to dnyuz.com (secure)]

Converting an assembly line can be done but by the time the first vent rolls off the line for shipment how many months or years are we talking?
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BINGO! All the board houses are in China. These are complex computer devices. Each manufacturer has designed their own software, PCBs, plastics, vents, etc. Unless we're literally copying Hill-Rom or Zoll's design, it's ground up time.

Lets say we are copying it. WE still need massive amounts of PCBs made other parts... all of which come from China.

Lets say we pull in-house and compel Flextronics to use a US factory to print these boards... they still need to source the components... which are international, re-tool, build, test, fix, test again... It's a LONG PAINFUL PROCESS to start high volume PCB manufacturing.

We are NOT compelling China to ramp up shit. We're on our own and cannot snap our fingers to make it happen.
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Speculation:

1.) Perhaps we are already in a silent war with China, or with a faction of the Chinese government that wants to take the USA down.

The pandemic is perhaps a precursor to further warfare - perhaps an EMP, perhaps more biowarfare.

Like a boxer, they are battering us from all sides before the final kill shot. Battering in more ways than one - Think culture degradation, cell phone radiation, food poisoning, monetary policy, air pollution, divisive politics, Hollywood, etc.

2.) Space Force - Perhaps there is something going on in the skies, with China dropping viruses from space. On GLP, we have heard anecdotal stories of drones dropping chemtrails - perhaps releasing viruses?

3.) The resignation of CEOs combined with the top military brass relocating to Cheyenne Mountain tells a lot. This is much more than a pandemic.

I think it is fair to say we are on a war footing. The only thing that will save us at this juncture is prayer.
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Not to mention time needed to train workers to do the assembly.

I work in the PCB industry for a major US semiconductor company. We have a lot of projects delayed because many PCB plants have closed shop or reduce production drastically. These FAB shops are located in the US, Mexico and China. Usually there's a lead time of 4 weeks on a PCB batch (including assembly). Unless they have them already built it's going to take at least a month to get the necessary PCBs alone.
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5* for out-of-the-box, innovative thinking.
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Yes, deserves a pin actually.
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So how do generators help if it’s an emp?

They’re still electrical, correct?

What if you have solar power? Is that going to not work?
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It isn't going to be a real EMP. They will just turn the off switch.
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I agree that a lot more is going on behind the scenes. This virus thingy is a complete joke. You maybe on to something here.
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Presuppositions built on presuppositions.

They are building generators not ventilators! presupposition #1

Why would they need to build generators? For an EMP! presupposition #2

That is now how the Truth Community is supposed to work. We are supposed to find EVIDENCE, PROOF, that generators are being built, THEN we ask "Wait, why are they building generators, instead of ventilators"
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Why would they draft and auto company to make ventilators? It would make more sense to draft them to make generators. OP made a good catch.
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Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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New world order take over of the globe is underway. Any other theory is bullshit.
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Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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New world order take over of the globe is underway. Any other theory is bullshit.
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The world has been under the NWO for decades now.
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Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?)
Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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bsflag

New world order take over of the globe is underway. Any other theory is bullshit.
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This could be too. Doesn't mean the way the kill the United States isn't through the methods outlined above. Maybe Trump is struggling to align us to try to weather the storm, knowing whats happening. I don't know.

I do know his press conference yesterday he looked scared. Like defeat. Which scared me.

Brix and Fouche are complete liars and frauds. That is for 100% certain.
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So how do generators help if it’s an emp?

They’re still electrical, correct?

What if you have solar power? Is that going to not work?
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All military generators manufactured today are EMP resistant. Starting with the TQG series and now their current AMMPS models.

I repair and resell these in the consumer market. The EMP-proofing consists of a massive amount of ground wires tied to every single electrical component on the generator to draw away the EMP. It's fairly simple to do but requires a ton of extra wiring. I'm sure anything being made is required to meet those specs. Besides, generators would likely be used AFTER the event.

Solar and wind will be destroyed. The huge electromagnetic pulse picked up by the wires drawing the generated electricity away from the solar array or wind generator will travel right up to the array and burn out sensitive components, PCB traces, alternator windings, etc.

Unless substantial and proper grounding is in place, you're screwed. Even then, it's no guarantee your equipment will survive. Unless it's offline and in a faraday cage.
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How much is a mil generator to run a small house?

Damn so all the food in freezer will been gone.
No more ice. Geez
Hope it’s not true.
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For those doubting our leaders would EMP their own country, it made sense in the TV show "Jericho." After they nuked several major cities, they launched EMPs to further shut down communities that were surviving.

An EMP may be death for our way of life, those doing it would have protected themselves.

For instance, those close enough to the decision makers (like major CEOs, elected officials, etc...) might not be truly and completely in the know, but would still protect themselves by extracting themselves from their positions of responsibility.

Oh wait, hasn't that been happening?

This is definitely something to seriously consider.

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If it is an emp wouldn’t nuclear reactors be shutting down?
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Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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Last night when he said GENERATORS multiple times I ugh the same thing.
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So how do generators help if it’s an emp?

They’re still electrical, correct?

What if you have solar power? Is that going to not work?
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All military generators manufactured today are EMP resistant. Starting with the TQG series and now their current AMMPS models.

I repair and resell these in the consumer market. The EMP-proofing consists of a massive amount of ground wires tied to every single electrical component on the generator to draw away the EMP. It's fairly simple to do but requires a ton of extra wiring. I'm sure anything being made is required to meet those specs. Besides, generators would likely be used AFTER the event.

Solar and wind will be destroyed. The huge electromagnetic pulse picked up by the wires drawing the generated electricity away from the solar array or wind generator will travel right up to the array and burn out sensitive components, PCB traces, alternator windings, etc.

Unless substantial and proper grounding is in place, you're screwed. Even then, it's no guarantee your equipment will survive. Unless it's offline and in a faraday cage.
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How much is a mil generator to run a small house?

Damn so all the food in freezer will been gone.
No more ice. Geez
Hope it’s not true.
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Fridge will be burnt out. If you have a spare, unplug it, ground it good. try to build a faraday cage around it. It might survive.

You can get a 5KW unit at auction for around $2k-$3k (after buyers premium, tax, freight, etc) but no guarantees if it's in good working condition. They claim to do inspections but inspections don't equal load tests, oil tests, etc. Same unit, I'm selling for $4500.00 fully refurbished & guaranteed. These are diesel primary power plants. Good for 24x7 operation.

This is for reference only. I'm not revealing my company name and am not soliciting business.
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If it is an emp wouldn’t nuclear reactors be shutting down?
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I don't know. Power consumption around the globe has to be a record lows. That means control rods are being lowered for sure.
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If it is an emp wouldn’t nuclear reactors be shutting down?
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I don't know. Power consumption around the globe has to be a record lows. That means control rods are being lowered for sure.
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Check this out
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Well there is plenty of fuel for generators. If grid down, how you pump it out. Generators.

Refineries would stop, so gasoline and diesel would disappear in weeks.


IDK...Still think Covid is a bioweapon released by Cabal
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Didn't Q mention 10 days of darkness? Maybe white hats are going to turn off the grid for 10 days while they go after deep state(mass arrest) so no one can escape.
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Didn't Q mention 10 days of darkness? Maybe white hats are going to turn off the grid for 10 days while they go after deep state(mass arrest) so no one can escape.
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With the gross amount of lies and cover ups out there, I say that this is one of the most thoughtful and plausible posts out there.

Have you heard of Project Looking Glass? Have the big guys in control seen the future?

What is the Event? Cobra and followers have been talking about it for years.

An EMP caused by a super nova, Betelgeuse exploding, a CME, earth shifting on its axis, an invasion from outer space, a huge gamma ray burst?--all would be of planetary concern and warrant the necessity of generators instead of ventilators.

I questioned also how a car manufacturer could suddenly convert to complicated medical devices --but to generators it makes a whole lot more sense.

Yes, and then there is Q and the white hats who speak of the world going dark for a period...it even states 3 days of Darkness in the Bible.

I believe there is an illness afflicting earth currently and it is real but it is a cover and reason for the world leadership to come together and use this occasion for a much more serious threat to humanity.
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Well there is plenty of fuel for generators. If grid down, how you pump it out. Generators.

Refineries would stop, so gasoline and diesel would disappear in weeks.


IDK...Still think Covid is a bioweapon released by Cabal
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Military has everything they need to keep tankers fueled and rolling. Clear highways without dead cars everywhere will also make it very easy for them to travel at high speeds. Cant get around LA or NY if an EMP kills 50,000 cars all over city streets.

These pieces.. they just keep fitting. Clear roads for easy military travel.

BAM.
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David wilcock said we're gonna have 3 days of darkness. He said we won't necessarily loose electricity but we will loose phone and internet. This will happen before Good Friday because he said mass arrests will be occuring during this time.





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