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If this is the A. American nightmare scenario it’s taking an awfully long time to occur.

If it is though than get seeds. Pray and hope for the best and maybe get some chickens if you haven’t already.
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Doomful post
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fuck i hope you're wrong, bad time to be on GLP thats for sure tho!
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Alt theory: Setup for “cyber attack” on Grid (far less destructive than EMP but still crippling) another stage of luciferian vampire powergrab
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Hope so.

Texas is on separate power grid than rest of the country. Maybe that’s one reason we’ve had such a influx of relocations lately.
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Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all.

I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon.

It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this?

On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels.

It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present.
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Yep. 100% correct. There is no possible way to switch over a car manufacturer to build highly specialized medical equipment overnight. Impossible. The infrastructure required would take months in get in place and dial in. As you said, novices making this stuff would most certainly require lots of rework and testing before anything useful was produced.

Just look at the products your company makes. How many years did it take to get that right? And that was with experts in the field of products you're developing!!
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they can also easily switch to the production of military gear...
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I dunno what's really goin on mate, virus is real but i agree it feels like more! I am a Brit living inNepal and we have been passed the message that all British citizens overseas should return home if possible and to contact consulate with passport numbers etc for countries in lock down for possible evac flights... That is very strange imo as they don't mean just tourists but the hundreds of thousands of expats etc.

Doomy, very doomy!
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ohyeah Yep that is really strange.
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fuck i hope you're wrong, bad time to be on GLP thats for sure tho!
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I dunno what's really goin on mate, virus is real but i agree it feels like more! I am a Brit living inNepal and we have been passed the message that all British citizens overseas should return home if possible and to contact consulate with passport numbers etc for countries in lock down for possible evac flights... That is very strange imo as they don't mean just tourists but the hundreds of thousands of expats etc.

Doomy, very doomy!
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ohyeah Yep that is really strange.
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For future bioweapons? So that you are in the right area, for the right bioweapon?

Sure would look strange for all the Nepalis to be dying, while the Brit expats are unaffected!
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Great thread OP.

Exquisite thinking on ventilator/generator/retooling deal.

Clearly we are being treated as frighten children to be Mollycoddled children as opposed to reasoning adults in this country.
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It makes sense, OP.
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if the power goes out, much of the food Americans have been purchasing for survival will spoil.
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Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity.

Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either.

He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out?

Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production.

Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening?

PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense.

It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS.

An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World.
Grid DOWN.
Internet DOWN.
Radio DOWN.

NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers...

Literally on our own.

This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool?

Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense??

EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town?

You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about.

Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy.

This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart.
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Great post. It clears up some questions ive had about escorts and things ive seen on some flatbed semis here in fla lately.
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Much simpler and more in your face.

This is the controlled crash to continue theft of financial and real assets.

Take an actual virus that is somewhat dangerous, ramp up hype to Andromeda strain levels, and institute a response that will crush all economic activity.

Trillions are then showered on firms (you get $1200 if lucky) and the elite buy the stock market for dimes on the dollar.

Questions?
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They buy everything, every building, land, business on and on , they buy it all with their funny money for dimes on the dollar. The whole freakin monopoly board. They would be the owners, the world the tenants - always order out of chaos.

They decide who eats, lives, dies, makes babies -

Guidestones - they already told us -

why more bs distraction threads -
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An EMP would be a last ditch effort for the globalist/deep state to escape jail time.

Pull the plug and flee while the lights are out.

I think it is a real threat. Can the US stop any missile launch from anywhere in the USA including the golf?

Good post
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They're launching missiles from golf courses now?
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Great thread OP.

Exquisite thinking on ventilator/generator/retooling deal.

Clearly we are being treated as frighten children to be Mollycoddled children as opposed to reasoning adults in this country.
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We have to be treated that way. The soyboy-transgener-lbgtqxyz society we live in now? They cant even handle a snowstorm without panicking.

Our society is hopeless unfortunately. They cannot be honest, society will cower into uncontrollable collapse overnight.
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Something that makes more sense to me is...if there is a "conspiracy" here it's that the virus is very real, but there is a missing puzzle piece about its lasting effects. For instance, that initial paper published by Chinese doctors last month that post-infection, most men might be rendered infertile. The CCP pulled the study down and it dusappeared. Google it...even Newsweek had a story about the infertility angle.

If THIS turns out true then corona could be an ELE and the response makes total sense. Kinda scary to think about, and reminiscent of the film Children of Men.
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wtf do you tards think an EMP is? Power goes down, you fucking fix it. Like any other power out.
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Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all.

I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon.

It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this?

On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels.

It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present.
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if the power goes out, much of the food Americans have been purchasing for survival will spoil.
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Frozen goods, yes. Dry and canned goods are ok. I don't know the details, I should learn, but I believe you can smoke and salt your frozen meats so they last at room temp like jerky does. We've stored meats without refrigeration for most of our existence.
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I don't know if you are right OP but I sure as hell do like your thinking.
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Very interesting hypothesis

Seems totally plausible
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Definitely. And no matter if you believe in the threat of the virus (which I do) or not, with everything going on, emp right now seems like an absolute possibility.
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I believe the plant in Kokomo was/is a AC Delco/Dephi plant that makes/made parts for cars....not the automobile itself. ::peace:
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wtf do you tards think an EMP is? Power goes down, you fucking fix it. Like any other power out.
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Absolutely not. I talked about it a few pages back. It would take many years to get the grid fully operational again.
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meanwhile thousands of people are are dying all over the world from this virus... and are dying like they are being drowned..
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I agree that a lot more is going on behind the scenes. This virus thingy is a complete joke. You maybe on to something here.
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How could the government have any pre-warning of an EMP?
Unless it is solar in origin.

I agree somthing is afoot and your analysis makes sense but a few pieces are still missing.
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if the power goes out, much of the food Americans have been purchasing for survival will spoil.
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Frozen goods, yes. Dry and canned goods are ok. I don't know the details, I should learn, but I believe you can smoke and salt your frozen meats so they last at room temp like jerky does. We've stored meats without refrigeration for most of our existence.
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Brilliant!
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Glad to have a few pre-computer chipped vehicles. Just in case this is an EMP event.
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Great thread OP.

Exquisite thinking on ventilator/generator/retooling deal.

Clearly we are being treated as frighten children to be Mollycoddled children as opposed to reasoning adults in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76830195


We have to be treated that way. The soyboy-transgener-lbgtqxyz society we live in now? They cant even handle a snowstorm without panicking.

Our society is hopeless unfortunately. They cannot be honest, society will cower into uncontrollable collapse overnight.
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No that's not it. This place would be burned to the ground and no amount of soyboy would stop that. Governments would be ducking for cover. That's why they lie to all of us.
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Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all.

I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon.

It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this?

On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels.

It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present.
 Quoting: SiniXster the Dread

Having some experience with the same, it would literally take months to radically retool (30 weeks?). for generators you would still have to retool, but it could be done quickly BUT THE ENGINEERING WOULD ALREADY HAVE TO BE DONE, IMHO.
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OP you may or may not be right but even if you are, the virus is also real. I was skeptical as well but now at this point I know multiple people personally who have it. So let there be no doubt that there is a virus and that it is killing people.

Now, aside from that, the idea that something even bigger is coming is certainly possible.
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wtf do you tards think an EMP is? Power goes down, you fucking fix it. Like any other power out.
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Absolutely not. I talked about it a few pages back. It would take many years to get the grid fully operational again.
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