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Large Study On Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine Finds Negative Results | |
| Reality420
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75449616 United States05/22/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A multinational study of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with azithromycin in 96,000+ COVID-19 patients has found no support for the opinion that they help treat the disease. Quoting: Reality420 On the contrary, the data show those who took the medications actually actually had a higher risk of death and cardiac problems. . [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] "A new study underlines safety concerns about using the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat Covid-19, and heightens questions about whether or not the drugs are effective at all. ... One of the findings of the current study seems hard to ignore: that the drugs increase the risk of dangerous disturbances in heart rhythms. These are known side effects of both medicines, but the increases in the study are striking. After adjustment for other risk factors, it appears that patients on hydroxychloroquine had double the risk of ventricular arrhythmias, and those on chloroquine had triple. When an antibiotic such as azithromycin was added, as some proponents have advocated, the risk jumped to fivefold. ... Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and a cardiologist, noted the risk in a series of tweets. “It’s no longer that hydroxychloroquine has no sign of efficacy,” he wrote, “it is associated with an increase in mortality.”" . The study: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] . Behold the dangers of taking medical advice from self-promoting French 'Brave Maverick Doctors' and ignorant politicians. . Don't fall for unevidenced hype and anecdote... always demand the actual data and study it. If there is no data or some sort of kooky cargo cult version of data reject everything the loons are saying as they cannot provide evidence other than "Because I said so.". . Have fun and take care. Reality 3.50 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21481537 United States05/22/2020 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add zinc, dipshit. A multinational study of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with azithromycin in 96,000+ COVID-19 patients has found no support for the opinion that they help treat the disease. Quoting: Reality420 On the contrary, the data show those who took the medications actually actually had a higher risk of death and cardiac problems. . [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] "A new study underlines safety concerns about using the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat Covid-19, and heightens questions about whether or not the drugs are effective at all. ... One of the findings of the current study seems hard to ignore: that the drugs increase the risk of dangerous disturbances in heart rhythms. These are known side effects of both medicines, but the increases in the study are striking. After adjustment for other risk factors, it appears that patients on hydroxychloroquine had double the risk of ventricular arrhythmias, and those on chloroquine had triple. When an antibiotic such as azithromycin was added, as some proponents have advocated, the risk jumped to fivefold. ... Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and a cardiologist, noted the risk in a series of tweets. “It’s no longer that hydroxychloroquine has no sign of efficacy,” he wrote, “it is associated with an increase in mortality.”" . The study: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] . Behold the dangers of taking medical advice from self-promoting French 'Brave Maverick Doctors' and ignorant politicians. . Don't fall for unevidenced hype and anecdote... always demand the actual data and study it. If there is no data or some sort of kooky cargo cult version of data reject everything the loons are saying as they cannot provide evidence other than "Because I said so.". . Have fun and take care. Reality |
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| Moses Born Again in L.A.
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| Reality420
(OP) User ID: 49477262 United States05/22/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A multinational study of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with azithromycin in 96,000+ COVID-19 patients... Quoting: Reality420 Have fun and take care. Reality 3.50 Is that what you charge per HCQ tab, pharmashill? Why are you promoting drugs that don't do anything for the disease and are dangerous? How much is Big pHARMA paying you to promote this idiocy? Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Catseye
User ID: 78925577  Dominican Republic05/22/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol, it’s like they left the zinc out on purpose, sounds like an agenda planned study if it was an expensive drug you can bet your ass the study would have different results Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads. Thoughts create, mind them well. |
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| Reality420
(OP) User ID: 49477262 United States05/22/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| KuvaszLove
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611  United Kingdom05/22/2020 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. are you being stupid now or what? the protocol clearly states that you MUST take zinc as well as HCQ! |
| Reality420
(OP) User ID: 49477262 United States05/22/2020 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol, it’s like they left the zinc out on purpose, sounds like an agenda planned study Quoting: Catseye if it was an expensive drug you can bet your ass the study would have different results Got any published research on this zinc delusion you have? Show me the research where HCQ + zinc + ??? = safe and effective against COVID-19. Bet you won't because you can't... you've bought into fake news found on the kook side of teh internet. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77288913 United States05/22/2020 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  ...HCQ HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FDA SINCE 1955...@ THE INTERNET...TO TREAT MALARIA. LOOK AT THE LIST OF SIDE AFFECTS And Lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis... EVERYTHING HAS SIDE EFFECTS! Drink 3 gallons of water in an hour and see what happens. But fine, don't take it if/when you get this and you're gasping for air. It's your choice.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611 United Kingdom05/22/2020 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...HCQ HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FDA SINCE 1955...@ THE INTERNET... TO TREAT MALARIA. LOOK AT THE LIST OF SIDE AFFECTS What Conditions does Hydroxychloroquine SULFATE Treat? disease that causes disc-shaped patches on upper body systemic lupus erythematosus an autoimmune disease malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium falciparum rheumatoid arthritis preventive treatment of ovale malaria malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium vivax preventive treatment of vivax malaria preventive treatment of quartan malaria malaria prevention prevention of falciparum malaria malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium ovale malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium malariae skin allergy to sunlight joint inflammatory disease in children and young adults porphyria cutanea tarda heart infection due to microorganism Coxiella burnetii increased calcium in the blood from sarcoidosis experimental treatment for COVID-19 inflammation of blood vessels in the skin [link to www.webmd.com (secure)] [link to www.webmd.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72046971 United States05/22/2020 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A multinational study of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with azithromycin in 96,000+ COVID-19 patients... Quoting: Reality420 Have fun and take care. Reality 3.50 Is that what you charge per HCQ tab, pharmashill? Why are you promoting drugs that don't do anything for the disease and are dangerous? How much is Big pHARMA paying you to promote this idiocy? How much do you shills get paid for shilling? Shill. |
| Reality420
(OP) User ID: 49477262 United States05/22/2020 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. are you being stupid now or what? the protocol clearly states that you MUST take zinc as well as HCQ! What "protocol" are you talking about, AC72884611? The one you invented in your feeble, fevered imagination? Show me "the protocol" and the research used to generate it... Bet you can't and won't because it is a a kook delusion. . Show me. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Nataanii
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611 United Kingdom05/22/2020 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...HCQ HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FDA SINCE 1955...@ THE INTERNET... TO TREAT MALARIA. LOOK AT THE LIST OF SIDE AFFECTS What Conditions does Hydroxychloroquine SULFATE Treat? disease that causes disc-shaped patches on upper body systemic lupus erythematosus an autoimmune disease malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium falciparum rheumatoid arthritis preventive treatment of ovale malaria malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium vivax preventive treatment of vivax malaria preventive treatment of quartan malaria malaria prevention prevention of falciparum malaria malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium ovale malaria caused by the protozoa Plasmodium malariae skin allergy to sunlight joint inflammatory disease in children and young adults porphyria cutanea tarda heart infection due to microorganism Coxiella burnetii increased calcium in the blood from sarcoidosis experimental treatment for COVID-19 inflammation of blood vessels in the skin [link to www.webmd.com (secure)] [link to www.webmd.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74787307  Australia05/22/2020 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add zinc, dipshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21481537  On the contrary, the data show those who took the medications actually actually had a higher risk of death and cardiac problems. . [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] "A new study underlines safety concerns about using the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat Covid-19, and heightens questions about whether or not the drugs are effective at all. ... One of the findings of the current study seems hard to ignore: that the drugs increase the risk of dangerous disturbances in heart rhythms. These are known side effects of both medicines, but the increases in the study are striking. After adjustment for other risk factors, it appears that patients on hydroxychloroquine had double the risk of ventricular arrhythmias, and those on chloroquine had triple. When an antibiotic such as azithromycin was added, as some proponents have advocated, the risk jumped to fivefold. ... Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and a cardiologist, noted the risk in a series of tweets. “It’s no longer that hydroxychloroquine has no sign of efficacy,” he wrote, “it is associated with an increase in mortality.”" . The study: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] . Behold the dangers of taking medical advice from self-promoting French 'Brave Maverick Doctors' and ignorant politicians. . Don't fall for unevidenced hype and anecdote... always demand the actual data and study it. If there is no data or some sort of kooky cargo cult version of data reject everything the loons are saying as they cannot provide evidence other than "Because I said so.". . Have fun and take care. Reality |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611 United Kingdom05/22/2020 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. are you being stupid now or what? the protocol clearly states that you MUST take zinc as well as HCQ! What "protocol" are you talking about, AC72884611? The one you invented in your feeble, fevered imagination? Show me "the protocol" and the research used to generate it... Bet you can't and won't because it is a a kook delusion. . Show me. The protocol given by doctors treating this. have you been under a rock? let me get some links for you. |
| Bebe
User ID: 76579985 United States05/22/2020 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol, it’s like they left the zinc out on purpose, sounds like an agenda planned study Quoting: Catseye if it was an expensive drug you can bet your ass the study would have different results Not only left out the zinc but administered the HQY way too late in the process to actually help the patients. The studies admit these faults if you look more closely. Bebe |
| Butch DeFeo
User ID: 78907989 United States05/22/2020 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did they fail to administer ZINC to the patients, AGAIN, in their....."studies"? That's how they make HCQ look bad or worthless against COVID-19 - they FORGET to administer Zinc with it. We know this trick! Time for a new one! Easy to show these studies are contrived if they're not using zinc along with the HCQ and proper antibiotics. :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74787307 Australia05/22/2020 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew you Hate Trump mfs hated white conservatives but locking down entire states, arresting people walking alone, arresting people for opening businesses, faking Corona deaths and now implementing contact tracers, exposes you Hate Trump fucks for the commie subversives that you are.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611 United Kingdom05/22/2020 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. are you being stupid now or what? the protocol clearly states that you MUST take zinc as well as HCQ! What "protocol" are you talking about, AC72884611? The one you invented in your feeble, fevered imagination? Show me "the protocol" and the research used to generate it... Bet you can't and won't because it is a a kook delusion. . Show me. will this do? [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop
You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 59375562 United States05/22/2020 01:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A multinational study of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with azithromycin in 96,000+ COVID-19 patients has found no support for the opinion that they help treat the disease. Quoting: Reality420 On the contrary, the data show those who took the medications actually actually had a higher risk of death and cardiac problems. . [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] "A new study underlines safety concerns about using the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat Covid-19, and heightens questions about whether or not the drugs are effective at all. ... One of the findings of the current study seems hard to ignore: that the drugs increase the risk of dangerous disturbances in heart rhythms. These are known side effects of both medicines, but the increases in the study are striking. After adjustment for other risk factors, it appears that patients on hydroxychloroquine had double the risk of ventricular arrhythmias, and those on chloroquine had triple. When an antibiotic such as azithromycin was added, as some proponents have advocated, the risk jumped to fivefold. ... Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and a cardiologist, noted the risk in a series of tweets. “It’s no longer that hydroxychloroquine has no sign of efficacy,” he wrote, “it is associated with an increase in mortality.”" . The study: [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] . Behold the dangers of taking medical advice from self-promoting French 'Brave Maverick Doctors' and ignorant politicians. . Don't fall for unevidenced hype and anecdote... always demand the actual data and study it. If there is no data or some sort of kooky cargo cult version of data reject everything the loons are saying as they cannot provide evidence other than "Because I said so.". . Have fun and take care. Reality Hundreds of millions of doses over the decades, and now their worried about HCQ.  Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Reality420
(OP) User ID: 49477262 United States05/22/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy, the pHARMASHILLs have come out of the woodwork to defend these drugs which have no effect and are dangerous. How much $$ is Big Pharma paying these guys to troll every CQ/HCQ thread to protect their profits? . Don't fall for the pHARMA shills, folks. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74787307 Australia05/22/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | b]Georoge Soros speaks about the scamdemic --Dr. Joseph P. Farrell. NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM MAY 21 2020 Well, in case you missed it, a certain busybody billionaire - and no, I do not mean Baal Gates nor the Baal and Malicious Gates Foundation - has weighed in on the Fauci-Lieber-Wuhan virus; we'll call this episode "The Wit, Wisdom, and Cheney-esque Charm of George Soros": |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884611 United Kingdom05/22/2020 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. are you being stupid now or what? the protocol clearly states that you MUST take zinc as well as HCQ! What "protocol" are you talking about, AC72884611? The one you invented in your feeble, fevered imagination? Show me "the protocol" and the research used to generate it... Bet you can't and won't because it is a a kook delusion. . Show me. how about this clinical trial? [link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)] |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop
You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 59375562 United States05/22/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about it? Didier didn't mention zinc nor did Trump... My zinc levels are fine, thank you. Are you saying all those 96,000 subjects were deficient in zinc? Please produce some evidence for this delusion. Yes, President Trump did mention Zinc. Why are you lying like some nerd, OP? Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78940819  South Africa05/22/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explain to me, in EXCRUCIATING detail, how adding zinc to the equation magically eliminates the negative side effects of prolonged high dosage HCQ? Again if you don't understand. How zinc, make too much HCQ, not bad, what magic? |
