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Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way

 
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Time travel is relative.

Being able to manipulate the rate of time would ultimately lead to being able to stop time around you entirely.

What happens when you are able to slow the rate of time down around you to plank time but then accelerate to a velocity?

Would it result in a negative rate of time?

In Back to the Future, they used multiphase resonant circuits (flux capacitor) along with a load (stainless steel construction of the delorian), and then traveled in a predetermined speed to counteract the energy/time gain that was amplified with 1.3 billion (jigga) watts.

Today, there are patents from the US Navy that say they use up to 1 billion gigahertz at up to 1 Zetta Watt (Actually a real number) for a propellentless propulsion craft.

Who knows whats possible?
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I shouldn’t be saying this but given I am I’ll say it in very simple terms as you won’t want the math.

But there’s a group of us that bought two D-Wave systems, thanks to BC, and with the help of a few colleagues at CERN, we are the only people in pubic domain, that can communicate from both points back and forth, this being the then and now.

Stable entanglement proved to be both costly and difficult but suffice to say that the big bucks came in when we had to invent new methods of encrypting/decrypting the info.

At present the benefits are nominal but thankfully when the cost of going into space come down we’re going to mess with gravitational time ditialation, theoretically we should then have the ability to further expand the gap between the two relative times.

God help everyone when we get this tech working right.

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Nah bruh


You just got to calculate and compensate for it
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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be.

Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way.

The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals.

As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it.

Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw.

Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible.

How the Earth Moves


Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny!

Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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God has the ability to travel through time
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I shouldn’t be saying this but given I am I’ll say it in very simple terms as you won’t want the math.

But there’s a group of us that bought two D-Wave systems, thanks to BC, and with the help of a few colleagues at CERN, we are the only people in pubic domain, that can communicate from both points back and forth, this being the then and now.

Stable entanglement proved to be both costly and difficult but suffice to say that the big bucks came in when we had to invent new methods of encrypting/decrypting the info.

At present the benefits are nominal but thankfully when the cost of going into space come down we’re going to mess with gravitational time ditialation, theoretically we should then have the ability to further expand the gap between the two relative times.

God help everyone when we get this tech working right.
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very interesting


I’m assuming the “then and now” you achieved was only something less than milliseconds or was it much more?
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If you can think it then its possible.

Besides time might not work that way op.

Thats a good deep thought and i wonder how understanding this movement could give insight to the mechanics and even astrological significances.

But time can be constructed in reality in a different way then you are concieving it in your theory.
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Accelerate yourself to infinite velocity so you'll be everywhere at
once (Warp Factor 10). Then drop out of warp where you need to be.


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Re: Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way
seems like Everything is "Current" in Space

no past no future just the 'right now'

sure people would like to 'visit the past' out of

curiosity but how many people actually visit

a future time that hasnt happened yet
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Hodl on while I unravel my DNA.
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Re: Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way
“Then and now equals less than a second. But this is 100% verifiable and can be replicated with sufficient know how.

Let’s be honest, it was always going to be a few nerds in a warehouse that was going to solve the problem.

Imagine if we can give people two hours. How many mistakes could be avoided.

The commercial side of the venture is rediculous, fingers crossed all goes to plan and someone like FB doesn’t come along and offer something life changing for it, I suspect a few of us would take the money and run.

If we can get things right and boxed up in something smaller than a van we want to show the world in a year or two, the only thing, and I mean the only thing, that may have slowed us down a tad was Virgin Galactic being sold by Branson, this through the preverbal spanner in the works.
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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be.

Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way.

The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals.

As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it.

Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw.

Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible.

How the Earth Moves


Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny!

Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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Unless it is stationary, then it is easy, or you’ll need a coordinates for that particular time on x,y,z graph.
Not that complicated.
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Re: Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way
The present is the present.

The past can be visited changing the present.

It’s not hard to get your head around because the future is only the future when viewed from the past or the present.

Forget the future, it’s the present we’re looking to change!
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Past present and future, all happening simultaneously

Thus, there is no need for 'travel' when the hourglass is at your fingertips
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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be. Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way. The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals. As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it. Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw. Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible. How the Earth Moves Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny! Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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Time is not a physical place that can be travelled. All existing, all happening, are simultaneously going on at this forever ongoing now, the past is not existing anymore, the future is not existing yet.

Time travel is a meaning less word puzzle, created by dumb minds.
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earth is a closed system , except for radiowaves and voyager spacecrafts nothing has gone outside the milkyway so its like changing seats in a moving bus , maybe
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Succesful time travel requires a "space ship". One that navigates temporal space according to spacial indices. One "jumps" from "here and now" to the same special location at a different temporal axis. Or, indeed, on can just as easily jump to a different time and space altogether.

A time travel machine such as is imagined in science fiction stories is an impossibility for many reasons including the one you mention.
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The spacecraft would need to move at incredible speeds to ever reach the spacial position of earth, for instance, even a day in the past or future.
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Actually, ioesn't because the solar system drags space/time along with it.



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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be.

Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way.

The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals.

As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it.

Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw.

Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible.

How the Earth Moves


Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny!

Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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To bring it back into plausibility, you just have to change the name. Space-time travel.
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Stop being so dumb, too much back to the future!

It’s called time dilation, even in a closed system, that’s why when you go into space time speeds up slightly. Put yourself near the sun with its massive gravity the it slows relative. So people on earth would age quicker than those near the sun.

Simple science and forget the TV.

Time is not linear, even a two year old child should know that “special relativity!”

Therefore by quantum entangling info you can have both relative positions in motion.
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Frame of reference is all that matters.
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When you play a video game, the main character stays in a fixed position, the world moves around you.
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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be.

Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way.

The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals.

As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it.

Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw.

Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible.

How the Earth Moves


Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny!

Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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I can tell you right now there is no such thing as time travel PERIOD!

These fucking idiots talkin bout this shit GO TO THE FUCKING MOON AND MARS FIRST then maybe we can talk about it!

Clean the plastic out of the oceans then maybe we can talk about it, people live in a dream fantasy its time to WAKE UP!
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Re: Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way
MilkyWay is moving too.

Theoretically you could use what ever entangles particles in the quantum to traverse distances instantly.
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For time travel to work, the Earth would have to be in some past or future "position" that it already was or will someday be. Earth's position within the Milky Way is dependent on the sun's movement through the Milky Way. The sun is rotating around the core of the Milky Way within one of its spirals. As the sun moves, everything in the solar system moves with it. Consequently, the Earth's movement within the Milky Way looks like a cork screw. Bottom line: There's not a fvcking chance in hell that you can move EVERYTHING in the known universe either forward or backward to where they were or where they'll be, and that reality makes time travel impossible. How the Earth Moves Rick and Morty (S04E08 - from last week) actually takes a jaundiced look at time travel in this episode. And, it's fucking funny! Please note: I am not talking about alternate universes or other dimensions. This rant was strictly about time travel.
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Time is not a physical place that can be travelled. All existing, all happening, are simultaneously going on at this forever ongoing now, the past is not existing anymore, the future is not existing yet. Time travel is a meaning less word puzzle, created by dumb minds.
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Travel means travel to a place, the moon, the other country, a city, a town, a physical place on earth or other planets.

Time is a concept of changing of events and a measurement of the dilation of event. Time has no location but universal. Time travel is not a meaningful thing in reality.
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Have no idea what you're all talking about, too much data, it's like driving a car, when you know, you know, you don't have to know how the car functions as car, just to drive it.
Then it becomes second nature.
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Waited for any question but no one came :(, look, if you approach it through science, it is a fail, you have to approach it from within, close your eyes, relax, and empty your mind, let the doors open, it is not like you will transfer in real there as if being there it's real to here, it is changing dimensions, to manipulate time and space, by forgetting that time exists, or space exists, fear should be zero, or else automatically it shuts down.
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Time travel is relative.

I think you can go forward in time but you cannot go to the past.

For example, let's say you were orbiting the sun and close to it....then you watched it "go out." Like a light switch it just stopped emanating light. You then raced to planet earth at warp 9 (or wahtever) (9 times the speed of light)...landed...then you told the guy next to you..."Hey...Look up! I've been to the future...the sun is going to go out in 6 minutes." (it takes 8 min. for the suns light to reach the earth). Then it does indeed "go out."

From the prospective of the guy on earth...you have travelled forward in time. You are able to predict the future because you were there. From your prospective, you haven't travelled either forward or backward...you stayed in the present.
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Re: Time Travel is Impossible Because Solar System Moves in Milky Way
No, not really

That is a variable that would have to be included in the calculations but it could be accounted for. It's not like the solar system moves at random speeds and in random directions.

The solar system's position at any given moment in time could be calculated and when they send the data beam, they could target where the earth "was" at that point in time.

The Einstein Rosen bridge could be used to connect any two points either across the universe or across time or both

It has to do with dimensions

Once you exit this dimension, you can re-enter it at any place or at any time





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