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Planned Parenthood Delivers Live Babies, with Beating Hearts, then Live Organ Harvests Them

 
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women are the gatekeepers of sex
men are the gatekeepers of the relationship


if you didn't want to get pregnant, you wouldn't. Really not that hard of a concept to grasp .... unless you think people don't have free will, then you ideology makes complete sense.
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So men aren't sexually aggressive?
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waiting to be adopted.

More importantly... are all people opposing abortion adopting babies?
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 Quoting: Mistress C


I would be happy to adopt a couple of babies but in would come the mountain of govt social workers to decide my house isn't clean enough for them.

And the parents and family members who now demand to be a part of the new family once adooted.

Just what everyone needs, a new junkie family coming over all the time.
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wait, what?

So your not going to adopt babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


Or for sure the social workers telling everyone they don't have the correct lgbt value system to adopt their junkie babies.
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Sorry, are you saying that 400K each year remain unadopted or there are 400K unadopted in total?
 Quoting: Zalinsky


waiting to be adopted.

More importantly... are all people opposing abortion adopting babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C

 Quoting: Mistress C


I would be happy to adopt a couple of babies but in would come the mountain of govt social workers to decide my house isn't clean enough for them.

And the parents and family members who now demand to be a part of the new family once adooted.

Just what everyone needs, a new junkie family coming over all the time.
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Why would a social worker even know about it? Work it out with the family in private, or do a "moses" if the family wants to remain anonymous. Find a church group would help you. Family belongs to God not to Ceasar.
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How are these babies removed? C-sec?
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D&C. They are the size of a raspberry or strawberry usually 8-10 weeks.
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correct.

Men have LIVE sperm that should not be used unless it's to create a wanted baby.
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exactly. So when are you going to start taking responsibility for your bodies?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995


I only have one body, thanks.

Men don't like to be told what to do with their bodies, huh?
 Quoting: Mistress C


I find that most are very courteous and respectful. when told 'no', they leave. no stupid games. no chase

but maybe that is just the circles I travel in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995


Why do you have to tell men "no"? Are they asking for sex? Without the intention of conception?
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Sorry, are you saying that 400K each year remain unadopted or there are 400K unadopted in total?
 Quoting: Zalinsky


waiting to be adopted.
 Quoting: Mistress C


Your statistics are completely wrong.

From 15 minutes of research...
Your 400K is total numbers in foster care. Only about 100K are adoptable and very few infants.

About 135,000 children are adopted in the United States each year. Of non-stepparent adoptions, about 59 percent are from the child welfare (or foster) system, 26 percent are from other countries, and 15 percent are voluntarily relinquished American babies.

From a different source:
There are less than 20K domestic infant adoptions per year.


Your 1 million number is insanely wrong. There are only 4 million babies born total in the US each year.

There are an estimated 2 million families that would adopt an infant if given a chance. 20K babies per year. Do the math.

You can rationalize any way you want, but if a baby is not aborted and instead put up for adoption, there is a 99.9% chance the baby would be adopted immediately.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


thanks for that.

can you still explain why so many are put up for adoption?
 Quoting: Mistress C


That's a weird question.

There are approximately 900K abortions per year in the US.

How many of those are convenience versus incest, rape, medical necessity? I don't know. Let's generously say only 50% are out of convenience (it is probably closer to 95%).

That's 450K abortions that happened for no reason except the woman did not want to deal with the hassle/embarrassment/stigma/body changes/cost/pain of taking the child full-term. Everyone of those 450K were convenience. The woman could have taken the child through to birth if she so chose.

Yet only 20K women decided not aborting a baby that will be adopted and live a full life was worth their personal hassle/embarrassment/stigma/body changes/cost/pain.

That 20K vs. 450K

Shouldn't your question really be why so FEW are put up for adoption?

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women are the gatekeepers of sex
men are the gatekeepers of the relationship


if you didn't want to get pregnant, you wouldn't. Really not that hard of a concept to grasp .... unless you think people don't have free will, then you ideology makes complete sense.
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Shouldn't your question really be why so FEW are put up for adoption?
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No.

She's fighting to defend her guilty conscience

as if approving it will yet make it ok...
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Rather than admit it was a terrible thing to do

and urge young women to do what she has done...


but have you ever tried to get a woman to admit she was wrong?
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Most abortions are at 8 weeks and the fetus is the size of a raspberry. And at 10 weeks the size of a strawberry... how can they harvest organs from that?

Just curious.
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These are second and third trimester abortions mostly.
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There can be no forgiveness without confession and repentance.

With confession and repentance, there can be forgiveness.
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1 million babies are put up for adoption yearly. 400,000 are waiting to be adopted.

Those amounts would double without abortion.

Are these healthy numbers?

Why are people making so many unwanted babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


Indeed, all of your points are valid. Individual heart cells beat. When two heart cells touch, their beats synchronize. That is not a heart, and without a heart, there can be no heartbeat.

Researchers have discovered that there is little organization of human heart cells until about 20 weeks, despite a detectable beating of cells much earlier.

A beat may be detectable on ultrasound at 6 weeks, but 4 chambers don't even form until 8 weeks, and it all doesn't really organize until approximately 20 weeks.

The medical standard of viability is 24 weeks, although that can vary slightly. Preemies born prior to 24 weeks have a very low probability of suvival, and those that do live generally have life-long health problems and disabilities.

You get your very occasional fully positive outcome, but they're few and far between.

Most late term abortions (which are rare anyway) are done to preserve the life or health of the mother, or due to severe fetal abnormalities incompatible with life outside the womb.

A couple of residual beats owing to a connection with the umbilical cord does not demonstrate viability outside of the womb. Women who know at 24 weeks that their fetus will never survive after delivery shouldn't be forced to risk their health and even their life to continue a doomed gestation.

If people truly wanted to reduce abortion, they'd demand scientifically sound sex education and access to reliable contraception for all women of reproductive age.

Colorado had great success in reducing both abortion and teen pregnancy by doing just that.

Unfortunately, most so-called "pro-life" folks don't want educated female's with access to contraception, because they're afraid it might cause the females to become "sluts."

Proving, once again, that the "pro-life" movement is more about controlling women than saving fetuses.

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1 million babies are put up for adoption yearly. 400,000 are waiting to be adopted.

Those amounts would double without abortion.

Are these healthy numbers?

Why are people making so many unwanted babies?
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No excuse. People need to quit fornicating
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waiting to be adopted.

More importantly... are all people opposing abortion adopting babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C

 Quoting: Mistress C


I would be happy to adopt a couple of babies but in would come the mountain of govt social workers to decide my house isn't clean enough for them.

And the parents and family members who now demand to be a part of the new family once adooted.

Just what everyone needs, a new junkie family coming over all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79100617


wait, what?

So your not going to adopt babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


We have three kids, and while I can't say I'm thrilled at the thought of diapers again, we would adopt a baby in a second if we could.

But if you don't know, domestic adoption is a nightmare. It's $30K in costs and endless interviews, delays, and bureaucratic crap.

Not to mention, as the other poster mentioned, the new paradigm is that the birth mother gets to be involved, even in a limited fashion. While I am all for a child meeting their birth mother after they've reached a certain age if they want, it is insanely confusing, traumatic, and damaging to do that at a young age.

If adoption was quick and quiet, the way it used to be, we would adopt a new infant of any race immediately. As it is, we're not even bothering, since it is a nightmare of red tape and expenses and there aren't any adoptable children available anyway.

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This is disgusting.


Our whole country is due a reckoning for this shit.


Maybe the rona is part of that.


But there would need to be a whole lot more than that for any semblance of justice.
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 Quoting: Mistress C


I would be happy to adopt a couple of babies but in would come the mountain of govt social workers to decide my house isn't clean enough for them.

And the parents and family members who now demand to be a part of the new family once adooted.

Just what everyone needs, a new junkie family coming over all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79100617


wait, what?

So your not going to adopt babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


We have three kids, and while I can't say I'm thrilled at the thought of diapers again, we would adopt a baby in a second if we could.

But if you don't know, domestic adoption is a nightmare. It's $30K in costs and endless interviews, delays, and bureaucratic crap.

Not to mention, as the other poster mentioned, the new paradigm is that the birth mother gets to be involved, even in a limited fashion. While I am all for a child meeting their birth mother after they've reached a certain age if they want, it is insanely confusing, traumatic, and damaging to do that at a young age.

If adoption was quick and quiet, the way it used to be, we would adopt a new infant of any race immediately. As it is, we're not even bothering, since it is a nightmare of red tape and expenses and there aren't any adoptable children available anyway.
 Quoting: Zalinsky


Interesting. I can see why some women choose abortion.

Making a life comes with huge responsibility. Something to think about before having sex. I suppose.
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This is disgusting.


Our whole country is due a reckoning for this shit.


Maybe the rona is part of that.


But there would need to be a whole lot more than that for any semblance of justice.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


The earth will be rid of a few billion humans soon. We'll have bigger problems.
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This is disgusting.


Our whole country is due a reckoning for this shit.


Maybe the rona is part of that.


But there would need to be a whole lot more than that for any semblance of justice.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


The earth will be rid of a few billion humans soon. We'll have bigger problems.
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We are not the only sinful nation, and you are right.
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1 million babies are put up for adoption yearly. 400,000 are waiting to be adopted.

Those amounts would double without abortion.

Are these healthy numbers?

Why are people making so many unwanted babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


No excuse. People need to quit fornicating
 Quoting: Irish eyes


Agree.

So we should speak up when people suggest sex and remind them of the responsibility? I will.
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That is called premeditated murder
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Yes it is
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It displays a lack of maternal instincts on behalf of the mother of the aborted baby.
With that void there they are not fit for marriage, if they would kill their own baby then they would kill their own husband as well, if that profited them.

Raised that way, maybe even repreated actions from the former parent as well.
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Hell. It waits
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"Unsealed video clips of the testimony of officials from Planned Parenthood and others in the abortion industry reveal disturbing details of infants surviving abortion and either being left to die or having their organs harvested.
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Asked if the intact fetuses that 'fall out' of the woman have a heartbeat, Larton testified, 'It would depend,' adding, 'I can see hearts that are not in an intact P.O.C. [product of conception, the term the abortion industry uses for fetus or baby] that are beating independently' after they are removed from the fetus."

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:Itsover:
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100% complete bullshit. So easily disproved that it can be done in about 30 seconds. How do people fall for this crap? Shocking
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We've known these satanic rituals involving child torture and sacrifice has been going on for a long time. Now they are getting more and more brazen and overt, publicly taking pride in it. God wiped out the world once because of abominations like this and I hope Jesus comes back soon with an army of saints and angels.
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80% of all abortions are in the first trimester.

Is the article talking about full term abortions?
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Maybe your “stats” are completely falsified and they are actually under cover of those false numbers gutting babies at any age of term. Do you really think planned parenthood hood would report their organ trafficking data.
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It displays a lack of maternal instincts on behalf of the mother of the aborted baby.
With that void there they are not fit for marriage, if they would kill their own baby then they would kill their own husband as well, if that profited them.

Raised that way, maybe even repreated actions from the former parent as well.
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Yep, lots of domestic violence going on out there.

Lots of people on this forum are foster children too.

Or their parents didn't conceive them in love.
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1 million babies are put up for adoption yearly. 400,000 are waiting to be adopted.

Those amounts would double without abortion.

Are these healthy numbers?

Why are people making so many unwanted babies?
 Quoting: Mistress C


Sorry, are you saying that 400K each year remain unadopted or there are 400K unadopted in total?
 Quoting: Zalinsky


waiting to be adopted.
 Quoting: Mistress C


The why is it so hard to adopt a baby? It’s almost impossible.
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Read this thread about baby harvesting on Elite super boats

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80% of all abortions are in the first trimester.

Is the article talking about full term abortions?
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Maybe your “stats” are completely falsified and they are actually under cover of those false numbers gutting babies at any age of term. Do you really think planned parenthood hood would report their organ trafficking data.
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They aren't my stats. lol

How does one "gut" a raspberry or strawberry?





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