God is not a man? Yet Jesus is a man? Perhaps Jesus was something else before he became human.

Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Is it possible that he became the son of man?

Someone who cannot hold their tongue from something as easy as cussing cannot be trust with the things of God for their religion is worthless.

Horus is not God.

So does that mean it’s idolatry when you worship a man?

He eternally existed in spirit along with the Father, and Holy Spirit, prior to the incarnation.

Like you said, Jesus creates all things JOHN 1 and colossians 1.

It’s called the hypostatic union. He is fully God and fully man in Jesus. Like a hand goes into a glove, so the 2nd person of the Godhead, came to this earth and put on flesh.
💯 Jesus is both God and man fully. It also says in Him dwells of the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

Before He came to earth, no He didn’t have a body, He was fully spirit, as God doesn’t have a body..only now that Jesus came has He added it to Himself.

I’ve spent more time on this site over the years then on my PS4 I think lol
Also some good references showing Jesus is God in this link as well. 🤙🏻

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He is more than a man. Jesus is a God and since there is only one God and the angels are commanded to worship Jesus by God, they are both God. Notice one God speaking to another God.

Psalm 45:7
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

So you are saying Jesus was in the beginning? If so, I agree. Are you saying Jesus was once not a human being but later became human?

Jesus is God and Man 💯

Hypostatic Union is the union of the two natures (Divine and human) in the person of Jesus. Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14, 10:30-33, 20:28, Phil. 2:5-8, Heb. 1:8). He is fully God and fully man (Col. 2:9), thus, He has two natures: God and man. He is not half God and half man. He is 100% God and 100% man. He never lost His divinity. He continued to exist as God when He became a man and added human nature to Himself (Phil. 2:5-11). Therefore, there is a "union in one person of a full human nature and a full divine nature." Right now in Heaven there is a man, Jesus, who is our Mediator between us and God the Father (1 Tim. 2:5).

All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9).

He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39).


This link is great! Shows how Jesus is God, didn’t want to try to copy/paste it all here.

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I agree. Jesus was in the beginning then later became flesh. I agree that Jesus is God and that people misunderstand the verse I put into the Original post. They use it to make others believe that Jesus is not God. It is possible that God was once not a man or the son of man but later became both.

Some people don't seem to read the scriptures as if they were past, present and future. God can speak in the past and it can change in the future.

If you were anointed with oil i wouldnt worship you though. Just like i dont idolize my rich neighbour who is anointed with a new Mercedes. Should only worship the one doing the anointing and exalting, not the ones recieving it?

Jesus seems more like a recipient of blessings. And gets a billion followers to idolize him.

Hebrews 1
King James Version
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

May God bless you.

It is all words people wrote down. Some of them stuck. Just like El Ron (rerun) Hubbard did. He was a failing sci-fi author so he wrote a religion. That was in my fucking life here.

Here is my religion. Free sex for all if you give me money now. I promise the sex will come later.

Please reconsider your life and seek God. You won't regret it.

I don't claim to be a Christian. I just seek God and hope one day he will come to me. I hope he/she doesn't claim to be one either.


1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


Remember guys...

1 Peter 3:9
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.


Don't talk to them. It will only spread more defiling material and maybe tempt others.

There was no intention of creating a feud about this. It is just my opinion. Just mine. Fuck off with me and who cares.

No need for bold text.

Christ consciousness is the bridge between the human and the divine. It shows we live in a universe where there is no hard and fast division between man and the transcendent divine (“God”). This is why Christianity is compatable with Buddhism. Christ was a Maha-Bodhisattva who proved that we can fuse with the divine in holy union, like achieving nirvanic consciousness.

Pantheistic or panentheistic Christianity where one can become fused with God is the only way forward for the Abrahamic religions. The goal is to become one with the Dharmakaya (or rather realize we are already one with it) through faith in the transformative power of Christ. Heaven is not a place; it is liberated consciousness at ease in the luminous void. Christianity is probably best approached as a devotional path, “ta-riki” or putting your faith totally in God as other-yet-one.

Read “The Imitation of Christ” by a Kempis, “On Cleaving to God” by Albertus Magnus, and the “Philokalia,” the great mystical compendium of Eastern orthodoxy. These early medieval thinkers were headed in the right direction before Christianity got hijacked by schizoid dualism.

I care. If we didn't care for the world we would just abandon it and leave it to it's own demise. Have you ever truly given Jesus a chance? Faith plus works equals satisfaction. You won't regret it.

Colossians 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


1 Corinthians 3:18
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

No Jesus was not there since the beginning trillions and trillions of years ago... Jesus was the Incarnation of Nebadon's creator son... Michael...Who is returned.

2nd person Trinity is not Jesus and never was... it is eternal spirit in a short nutshelll. The creation is massive and only SOME of it.. shows on our telescopes.

Thank you for questioning...:Love to you 2:

The creator sons of the creation.. there are now about 900,000 of them... are Sons of the FATHER and THE SON...

It's threads like these which highlight absolutely, the absurdity of the whole fucking shabang.
It's like debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or whether Muhammad really flew to heaven on a unicorn.
Come on, people.
I don't know how anyone can still be debating this shit in this day and age.
OH, and by the way I'm a conservative Trump, MAGA supporter who loves the 2nd ammendment.
Just before the hysterical fucktards start losing their shit thinking that only Demotwats are atheists.

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Colossians 1:16
King James Version
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

and you are terribly uniformed.

NOPE. the multiple sons of wicked and evil urantia cult are FAKE. Jesus is the only begotten son. Michael of nebadon is one of satan's many names along with beezlebub, legion, hatonn, and esu immanuel sananda......

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life

Why are GLP Christians so angry and inflexible? Why is a wall of text bible quote considered the final word in ten thousand posts?

You fellows need to relax into things and enjoy life a little more, even in these dark times. A little less fundamentalism and more ecumenicalism and mysticism wouldn’t hurt either.

Jesus took on the form of flesh to be able to die and shed his blood for our sins. He has existed since before creation and was the agent of creation.

God has already proven his existence to be through signs and wonders. All I had to do what have faith and show some obedience to prove that I was seeking him.

Psalm 37:4
Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.


Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.