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interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to

 
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The boundary between self and other dissolves. The apparent “other” is not located “out there” somewhere, but constructed of your perceptions, your feelings, your thoughts.

You see what you see. That is all you see. And that seeing is you.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 12). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
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...nothing is gained through effort nor lost for the lack of it. In each moment, things simply are as they are, whether “I” like it or not.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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Once the cosmic plan/supreme being belief system has been injected into the mind and takes root there, it will resist any reasonable, gradual uprooting.

The internal structures of spiritual beliefs provide staunch resistance against deliberate, thoughtful eradication...


Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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Once the cosmic plan/supreme being belief system has been injected into the mind and takes root there, it will resist any reasonable, gradual uprooting.

The internal structures of spiritual beliefs provide staunch resistance against deliberate, thoughtful eradication...


Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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The same tools are understood and used in different ways. A thorn, ie, some spiritual structure of mind, is used to remove another thorn, or ignorance of self-nature.

A properly understood spiritual tool is itself the eradication of ignorance, as well as identical with the absolute. In the same sense a shovel and the associated efforts are in effect the same as the wellspring.
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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
Good thread OP. I'll bookmark his videos.
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Once the cosmic plan/supreme being belief system has been injected into the mind and takes root there, it will resist any reasonable, gradual uprooting.

The internal structures of spiritual beliefs provide staunch resistance against deliberate, thoughtful eradication...


Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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The same tools are understood and used in different ways. A thorn, ie, some spiritual structure of mind, is used to remove another thorn, or ignorance of self-nature.

A properly understood spiritual tool is itself the eradication of ignorance, as well as identical with the absolute. In the same sense a shovel and the associated efforts are in effect the same as the wellspring.
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Good thoughts. Thanks!
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Good thread OP. I'll bookmark his videos.
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Thanks!
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All you really know is that “myself,” the apparent focus of awareness you call “me,” seems always to be here. Beyond that, ideas about what “myself” is or isn’t are pure conjecture, not fact.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
he gives out very bad vibes...quite possessed by demons.

like typical meat sacs dwellers going to astral or doing drugs and coming back loaded of demons.
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If you are thinking magically about the Absolute, or non-duality, or self-realization, or karma and causality, you are not awake, I say, but hypnotized.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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he gives out very bad vibes...quite possessed by demons.

like typical meat sacs dwellers going to astral or doing drugs and coming back loaded of demons.
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Interesting observation. Did you watch any of the video?
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Your beliefs are your beliefs merely because you believe them, which indicates nothing about their facticity. Absolutely nothing. Zero.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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In regard to ultimate matters, you do not know what is true and no one else does either.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people.
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bump
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he gives out very bad vibes
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I can't understand what the hell he is ON about wtf
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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
All you really know is that “myself,” the apparent focus of awareness you call “me,” seems always to be here. Beyond that, ideas about what “myself” is or isn’t are pure conjecture, not fact.


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wtf
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“Whether a supreme being exists or not is beside the point anyway. Regardless of what you believe or disbelieve, undeniably, here you are. Each moment is unique in its suchness—its essential character—come and gone like a lightning flash. Who knows what, if anything, is creating that suchness? We are here without knowing. Each moment is what it is when it is, isn’t it?

The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
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"It's a flux, man." - Frank Zappa
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Thank you so much op. I'm going to check this out more!

hf
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...nothing is gained through effort nor lost for the lack of it. In each moment, things simply are as they are, whether “I” like it or not.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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I really don't get this one though?
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A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people.
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bump
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Thanks for the bump.

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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
I see what he's saying, but on the other hand, self IS magical. I mean we're talking clarity, bliss, light, expansion among the pure qualities, the unfathomable beyond the qualities.
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he gives out very bad vibes
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I can't understand what the hell he is ON about wtf
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Hang in there and watch some more. He grows on you.
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In awakening, one must smoke heaps and heaps of weed. Only then will tou realise that reality as it is percieved, is nothing more than an illusion caused by lack od really good weed

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 7). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
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I like this guy.

Chop up.
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All you really know is that “myself,” the apparent focus of awareness you call “me,” seems always to be here. Beyond that, ideas about what “myself” is or isn’t are pure conjecture, not fact.


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wtf
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Keep listening. It takes a while to start wrapping your head around it.
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I see what he's saying, but on the other hand, self IS magical. I mean we're talking clarity, bliss, light, expansion among the pure qualities, the unfathomable beyond the qualities.
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No argument there...
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Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
Awakening mind says, “I have no reason to believe what anyone says about ultimate matters. None. Those people are
human beings just like me. They have their ideas.

I’m not saying they are wrong, but I want to investigate this aliveness, this suchness, for myself—not by trying to corroborate someone else’s testimony, not by beginning from someone else’s world-view, but with no preconceptions at all—with a clean slate.”


Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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i personally see this as a test , humanity is and always has been a mission , seeking that little sliver of what ? faith . but it gets even better , the drain is spiraling down or up. stay tuned for next weeks episode .
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...beyond openness to each moment, I have no practice.

Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
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Been thinking on this thread. Went down a few rabbit holes. Really appreciate it OP.





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