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Well now we know why the Cabal has been pushing the stop smoking agenda so hard.

 
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Smoking protects you in other ways too.

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"Tobacco has the quality of being able to absorb. When made into a poultice, it can absorb toxins out of a rash or bug bite. When you pray with it, it absorbs your prayers. And when smoked, the smoke carries your prayers up to the Creator. The problem this presents in modern society is that most of the places we smoke are busy, noisy, stressful environments (often laden with judging stares from other non-smokers) – all of this is absorbed into the tobacco vibrationally, and then magnifies harm and stress in the smokers' bodies. If your intentions when smoking are kept clean and higher vibrational, the ritual holds a different significance. (Less than 25% of habitual tobacco smokers ever develop a smoking-related illness.)

For HSPs, cigarette smoking may also help to shield the emotional body from overwhelm; it may be that the smoke decreases the empathic overload of feeling the feelings of others around them. Having smoke fill the lungs may also surround and 'protect' the heart (thus some people use cigarettes as a smokescreen / wall to heartbreak, painful feelings etc). For control freaks and over-analysers, plant medicine such as marijuana can stimulate bodily feelings of release and surrender to cosmic flow.

(Less than 25%)

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(Rumour has it that reptilians cannot abide smoked meat.)
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2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869


I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold.
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I'm also not a Dr nor a Physician but I fully support and agree with this. I am however an on and off smoker and usually only get sick during or just after I quit smoking. I attribute it to that exact reason. In fact, the years when I dont smoke, I have more lung infections than when I do smoke cigs.

As a side note, I discovered with (what was almost chronic) bronchitis, I smoke cigs and the green to both clear out the lungs and keep the coughing down. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Nicotine or the chemicals in cigarrettes temporarily paralyzes the cilia or lung hairs while weed smoke activates them and thats why green smokers cough more - because the smoke actually makes you cough (mind you, most smoke in the lungs should cause that). So with any upper lung infection, I'll step outside and burn a 1/3 of one, cough like a mofo on purpose and then have a smoke to calm the lungs down. Sounds hiliariously backwards.

I'm not implying let alone stating either cures bronchitis or lung infections. Just helps cope with the phelgm production and deep coughs and yes I do use antibiotics for serious lung infections.
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2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them.
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I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold.
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Maybe in part, but mostly it is because nicotine kills corona viruses. There used to be several research papers on the web, but they have been scrubbed. I found them when I was researhing SARS and MERS. I posted the only one I have found a couple of months ago.

You might try searching again if you are interested.

I bought some tobacco seed.... People used to grow it all over the US.
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I'd quit smoking cig years ago, but when reports came in from China that smokers were unaffected by the virus, I got myself a pipe and tobacco and started smoking again and upped my vitamin C levels to as much as I could take. So far, so good.
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I'd quit smoking cig years ago, but when reports came in from China that smokers were unaffected by the virus, I got myself a pipe and tobacco and started smoking again and upped my vitamin C levels to as much as I could take. So far, so good.
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Pipe tobacco because cigs are f*cking expensive now.
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Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19

Few of those hospitalized with the coronavirus are smokers, and researchers are trying to understand why, according to VICE.

One hypothesis is that nicotine, which has anti-inflammatory properties, may interfere with the way that COVID-19 causes an overreaction of the immune system.

The hypothesis comes from Konstantinos Farsalinos, a cardiologist in Greece who focuses on tobacco-use reduction. Farsalinos noticed that few COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized in China were smokers, though about half of men in the country smoke.

Farsalinos and colleagues wrote a new paper available as a preprint and scheduled to be published in Internal and Emergency Medicine. They found that among 13 studies in China with nearly 6,000 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, the rate of smokers ranged from 1.4% to 12.6%. No studies recorded e-cigarette use.

“The results were remarkably consistent across all studies and were recently verified in the first case series of COVID-19 cases in the U.S.,” the authors wrote, calling for an “urgent investigation.”


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Think about that for a moment. 13 separate Sites in China that had a minimum of 6,000 hospitalizations each and some sites had a low as 1.4% of the total patients were smokers. The highest was 12.6%.

Those numbers are earth shattering low for people who smoke. Considering it's estimated about half the male population of China Smokes Cigarettes and high percentage of women do also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356


There is already pukka research to confirm this from France, UK, US, Italy, can't remember where else.

I read the first couple of papers (PubMed). Apparently the virus gets in via ACE2 receptors on the lung surface. Something in the smoke blocks these receptors up and stops the bug getting in.

I think I might have had Covid last week. Bloody weird bug it was whatever, not pleasant. Anyway, I just kept knocking back the zinc tabs and smoked as much as I could.

It's over 10 days now and I'm just about back to usual
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vitamin b3(niacin) and nicotine are intertwined chemically. compare the molecular structures side by side..

they both use the bodies natural nicotinic receptors...

small amounts of nicotine work with metabolites of b3

most people are vitamin b3 deficient..

think about it

theres your connection and why nicotine helps with some things

Last Edited by Grove Street on 08/03/2020 04:47 PM
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The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past.

I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation.

It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out.

Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356


Rush said this years ago. Smoking is a benefit. Not a direct quote tho, but very close.
I was glad to hear that. They must have targeted him tho to have gotten lung cancer. Which by the way. More non smokers than smokers develop lung cancer.
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The avg man in Wuhan smokes over a pack a day. It didn't help them, now did it?
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Go back to page 1 and read OP's second post.
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Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past.

I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation.

It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out.

Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers.
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I know LOADS of smokers who have had the virus.
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I would advise anyone to smoke cigarettes. I did for 17 years--I suspect those are worse now than ever.

I do smoke cigars--one or two per day. I also always have some Red Man tobacco close at hand at all times.

I am almost 65 and perfectly healthy. I have been very healthy my whole life. I did have five serious flu illness and pneumonia once. 20 to 25 years ago--five years in a row with the bug obviously coming from Chicoms. After the fifth time, I seemed to gain immunity from the dirty little buggers.
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The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past.

I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation.

It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out.

Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356


I know LOADS of smokers who have had the virus.
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I doubt you know anyone that actually has the virus. Get your tobacco--and fast.
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Well i smoke a lot....just not cigarettes
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Same here, 2 grams a day for nausea, if I could afford it I would be smoking 3 to 4 grams a day. New Jersey does not allow disabled low income folks to grow their own cannabis. Where is New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy's compassion?

Oh wait this is a Mafia/BIG Pharma state. Bastards!
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His compassion is with the illegals and their inability to drive in NJ.
Let's see if he follows NY's lead (knew it was coming!) and allows them access to the DMV
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Kurt Vonnegut the author said that he started smoking Pall Malls when he was 12. Latter on in life he said he was going to sue the tobacco companies because they put out a warning saying that smoking will kill you. He died when he was 84.
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no shit! haha
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vitamin b3(niacin) and nicotine are intertwined chemically. compare the molecular structures side by side..

they both use the bodies natural nicotinic receptors...

small amounts of nicotine work with metabolites of b3

most people are vitamin b3 deficient..

think about it

theres your connection and why nicotine helps with some things
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Reminds me, I read a paper about 5 years ago that said that people with Parkinsons are invariably non-smokers as are people with Celiac.

They give nicotine tabs to stroke patients, it helps their brains recover.

Makes you wonder. What other diseases does nicotine fight/cure?
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vitamin b3(niacin) and nicotine are intertwined chemically. compare the molecular structures side by side..

they both use the bodies natural nicotinic receptors...

small amounts of nicotine work with metabolites of b3

most people are vitamin b3 deficient..

think about it

theres your connection and why nicotine helps with some things
 Quoting: Grove Street


Reminds me, I read a paper about 5 years ago that said that people with Parkinsons are invariably non-smokers as are people with Celiac.

They give nicotine tabs to stroke patients, it helps their brains recover.

Makes you wonder. What other diseases does nicotine fight/cure?
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2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869


I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold.
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smoking is protective against Parkinson's Disease.

there is an inverse, dose-dependent correlation between smoking and Parkinson's.


is it the nicotine?

not known at this point
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interesting can you DM me any of that research?
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2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them.
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I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356


I'm also not a Dr nor a Physician but I fully support and agree with this. I am however an on and off smoker and usually only get sick during or just after I quit smoking. I attribute it to that exact reason. In fact, the years when I dont smoke, I have more lung infections than when I do smoke cigs.

As a side note, I discovered with (what was almost chronic) bronchitis, I smoke cigs and the green to both clear out the lungs and keep the coughing down. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Nicotine or the chemicals in cigarrettes temporarily paralyzes the cilia or lung hairs while weed smoke activates them and thats why green smokers cough more - because the smoke actually makes you cough (mind you, most smoke in the lungs should cause that). So with any upper lung infection, I'll step outside and burn a 1/3 of one, cough like a mofo on purpose and then have a smoke to calm the lungs down. Sounds hiliariously backwards.

I'm not implying let alone stating either cures bronchitis or lung infections. Just helps cope with the phelgm production and deep coughs and yes I do use antibiotics for serious lung infections.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76392954



Tobacco companies add bronchodialators to cigs for that reason, to make it easier to smoke and inhale deeper thus more nicotine absorption. Look into it.
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The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past.

I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation.

It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out.

Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356


You don;t depopulate with a flu virus that barely kills anybody.

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