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Bad News: Trump Confirms The Pentagon & The CIA Are In Charge Of Foreign Policy

 
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NATIONAL SECURITY MEMORANDUM 57 WRITTEN BY KENNEDY AND IMPLEMENTED BY TRUMP, THIS LAST THURSDAY NOVEMBER 19, 2020
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That's a lot of what this current noise is about. Up to and including the election fraud. Why Sidney Powell is so charged up.

We're kind of at a crossroad with this election and its outcome.
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Exactly.
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He means Bibi
Hebrews 2:3 “how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation”
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Which is why the Dems were so up in arms over Trump daring to disregard that Vindman character we saw on full display in the impeachment charade.
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POTUS wants to stop ALL foreign wars and Finally bring our troops home...

Almost 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq and many more years in Germany, etc.. That is why the (MIC) is so pissed! A LOT of money, power, drugs, and human trafficking are at stake.
 Quoting: UpsideDown


Well he'd better stop selling nations yuuge weapons packages then shouldn't he - I mean if he really wants to end all wars?
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They should not be, but they are.

Deep state, military industrial complex, etc...
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Find and listen to the speech by Prez Ike upon leaving office. The executive branch is the propaganda cover for the 3-letter agencies and the Pentagon.
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POTUS wants to stop ALL foreign wars and Finally bring our troops home...

Almost 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq and many more years in Germany, etc.. That is why the (MIC) is so pissed! A LOT of money, power, drugs, and human trafficking are at stake.
 Quoting: UpsideDown


Well he'd better stop selling nations yuuge weapons packages then shouldn't he - I mean if he really wants to end all wars?
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


That's a real Catch-22, isn't it? Compounded by the fact that it seems that's one of the only things we manufacture anymore. Ugh.
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POTUS wants to stop ALL foreign wars and Finally bring our troops home...

Almost 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq and many more years in Germany, etc.. That is why the (MIC) is so pissed! A LOT of money, power, drugs, and human trafficking are at stake.
 Quoting: UpsideDown


Well he'd better stop selling nations yuuge weapons packages then shouldn't he - I mean if he really wants to end all wars?
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


That's a real Catch-22, isn't it? Compounded by the fact that it seems that's one of the only things we manufacture anymore. Ugh.
 Quoting: EvJohn


I don't see it as a Catch-22. One is either against war and fights for that principle or they aren't.
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this is news we been talking about this for years on this site.
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This was set up long ago, after WWII... There were power hungry asshole behind it for sure but at the time there were a lot of patriotic good guys too... After WWII it was seen that we faced a global enemy, an enemy controlled by a single party who's quest for global domination could be planned not just in years but in decades... It was believed and maybe even rightly so at the time that the US and the West could not compete with this enemy when our foreign policy could potentially change every 4-8 years... So these people thinking they were patriots began building the power of the military industrial complex, a merger of government and private businesses injecting money into both political parties, supporting only those candidates who would allow to be steered by this group, creating think tanks that would set foreign policy no matter who was politically at the helm... At the time it may have been the right thing to do but it was corrupted and now serves no purpose but to advance it's own power and has been taken over by technocrats
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You needed to be told FB Orange hasn't been doing his job for 4 years?
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"Operation Mockingbird" was a fully implemented CIA program to spread disinformation throghout American media.
 Quoting: money$$$


Wasn't "Mockingbird" used in the "Hunger Games" movie series?

Regardless, that film depicted a cruel, hard, miserable, chaotic dystopia dominated by sociopaths.

The screenwriter likely had in mind such a society being run by conservatives or rightwingers.

Bzzzt.

In reality, such a place is way closer to the characteristics of a world dominated by the left. By Comey-loving, Brennan-loving, Obama-Hillary-Biden-loving sociopaths and psychopaths.
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POTUS wants to stop ALL foreign wars and Finally bring our troops home...

Almost 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq and many more years in Germany, etc.. That is why the (MIC) is so pissed! A LOT of money, power, drugs, and human trafficking are at stake.
 Quoting: UpsideDown


Well he'd better stop selling nations yuuge weapons packages then shouldn't he - I mean if he really wants to end all wars?
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


That's a real Catch-22, isn't it? Compounded by the fact that it seems that's one of the only things we manufacture anymore. Ugh.
 Quoting: EvJohn


I don't see it as a Catch-22. One is either against war and fights for that principle or they aren't.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Might be a little more complex than that. And to think that if nobody is armed, there will be no conflicts strikes me as naive.

I was talking about it as a Catch-22 when it came to manufacturing and production, specifically. This President has been the least war-ey in my memory, and the most pro-domestic production in my memory. There's some irony there, but it might not run as deep as you think. Deterrence is only one facet of the complexity.

That said, none of my portfolio includes companies (that I can discern, at least) that profit from war. Directly, I mean. I hope. Hard to tell, but I've tried.

I realize that saying "things are complex" might be seen as a cop-out. But most things are. And most problems aren't solved with a simple yes/no.
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You needed to be told FB Orange hasn't been doing his job for 4 years?
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No thanks to you on the left.
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This was set up long ago, after WWII... There were power hungry asshole behind it for sure but at the time there were a lot of patriotic good guys too... After WWII it was seen that we faced a global enemy, an enemy controlled by a single party who's quest for global domination could be planned not just in years but in decades... It was believed and maybe even rightly so at the time that the US and the West could not compete with this enemy when our foreign policy could potentially change every 4-8 years... So these people thinking they were patriots began building the power of the military industrial complex, a merger of government and private businesses injecting money into both political parties, supporting only those candidates who would allow to be steered by this group, creating think tanks that would set foreign policy no matter who was politically at the helm... At the time it may have been the right thing to do but it was corrupted and now serves no purpose but to advance it's own power and has been taken over by technocrats
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Well he'd better stop selling nations yuuge weapons packages then shouldn't he - I mean if he really wants to end all wars?
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


That's a real Catch-22, isn't it? Compounded by the fact that it seems that's one of the only things we manufacture anymore. Ugh.
 Quoting: EvJohn


I don't see it as a Catch-22. One is either against war and fights for that principle or they aren't.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Might be a little more complex than that. And to think that if nobody is armed, there will be no conflicts strikes me as naive.

I was talking about it as a Catch-22 when it came to manufacturing and production, specifically. This President has been the least war-ey in my memory, and the most pro-domestic production in my memory. There's some irony there, but it might not run as deep as you think. Deterrence is only one facet of the complexity.

That said, none of my portfolio includes companies (that I can discern, at least) that profit from war. Directly, I mean. I hope. Hard to tell, but I've tried.

I realize that saying "things are complex" might be seen as a cop-out. But most things are. And most problems aren't solved with a simple yes/no.
 Quoting: EvJohn


JFK's plan to end wars was to go to the moon with the Russians. A good start and plan. With the two superpowers working together on such a large and costly mission they could have done other things together to role-model a safe and peaceful planet and perhaps this existence today would be different..

Sadly we are left to ponder what could have been on the 57th anniversary of his murder tomorrow.
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This topic won't get much attention from the Republicans, here Trump is basically admitting the defeat and capitulating, saying that he doesn't run the show but some other darker forces are, which 90% of GLP already knows, USA hasn't got an independent president since JFK. Doesn't matter who's the POTUS, he's just puppet of the deep state.

WILLIAM CASSEY, CIA director 1981

"WE'LL KNOW OUR DISINFORMATION PROGRAM IS COMPLETE WHEN EVERYTHING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BELIEVES IS FALSE"

"Operation Mockingbird" was a fully implemented CIA program to spread disinformation throghout American media. CIA Director William Colby testifed to the Church Commitee that over 400 CIA agents were active in the US media to control what was reported through American mainstream television, newspapers, and magazines.

President Ford fired Colby after his testimony, replacing him with George H.W. Bush. Bush Sr. ended the CIA's testimony, stating that there were no other programs of concern to disclose and promising that the CIA would no longer influence the media.
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Someone answer this for me please.

Is the CIA a department of the Government?
Does the the government have any control of it?
Do they get any funding from the US government?
Can Trump abolish it?
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Someone answer this for me please.

Is the CIA a department of the Government?
Does the the government have any control of it?
Do they get any funding from the US government?
Can Trump abolish it?
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Ever observe the dynamics in a family or group of friends where one person has a certain opinion or preference while everyone else has a different one?

Think of DC as a family gathering where most of the siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws are of the leftwing.
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Though it may be true, I don't see anything in the reference said by Trump. It was deduced by the fact that he is only partially bringing troops home. Misleading post in that sense.
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The headline is deceptive. Trump's actions analyzed and motivation theorized does not equal Trump confirming anything. It's a guess, maybe a good one-maybe not. Hardly confirmation.
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And...?



you must not be paying attention.

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TRUMP controls THEM.
He should FIRE HASPEL YESTERDAY!

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If he controls them, why doesn't he?
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Daniel Liszt is an amazing journalist.
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Republicans and Dems need to come together and nuke the FBI and CIA
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And...?



you must not be paying attention.

yoda
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I call BS. @4:45 the acting Secretary of Defense is defending the mainstream view of 911.

Some have been paying attention.
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Fake News.

The Democrats built the Pentagon and established the CIA.
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Fake News.

The Democrats built the Pentagon and established the CIA.
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Huh? So you're saying that the corrupt left has close ties to the Pentagon and the CIA, yet they're not using their muscle in order to control foreign policy? To control the military-industrial complex?
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whatever

Americans can fix this problem easy.
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