PCR tests. How they "work" and what you aren't being told.

Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted?

The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA.

Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers.

Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA.

Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles.

From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time..

At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT.

With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time.

At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time.
At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time.
After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct.

So why is this important? Why am I discussing this?
Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests.

Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means.

Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken.
[link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this.

Let me elaborate further. You can't get a false positive for no reason, meaning the technology can't just invent a positive out of thin air.


However it is so sensitive, that false positives are usually cross contamination. Let's say a nurse handed the specimen before sending and had a tiny amount of the virus on her glove. If that made it into the run from grabbing the outside of the tube or something it will pick it up.

That's true. However, if you work with PCR testing on a regular basis, you should also acknowledge that contamination isn't the only potential conflict that produces a false positive. Cross reactions with other genetic material is also a troubling issue when testing for various viruses, but particularly when searching for cov2.

Well then...it was worth a repine to hear some sanity...Cheers.

What's a cycle?

I want the laymans answer to this too.

I think its just amplifying the sample repeatably, like a zoom. Seems when enough scientists who know what they are looking at all agree, that it looks like a duck, its covid.

I had to have surgery about 2 months ago and had to take a PCR test

At therapy the other day I stated it would be nice to know the positive rate of people who had to take PCR tests for medical porcedures and the whole room agreed with me

My bet is 0% came back positive, because they need these other procedures to start making money again

Can you imagine a person saying that they support your right to wear a mask, but come near me with a mask on and you will "pay the price".

It will probably get there as more people wake up and realize that the masktards are the problem and the idiotic tools of the government.

I have trouble discussing any subject with someone that keeps insulting me. Do you really need that? Goodbye! Have a nice day!

Its not MY fault you write stupid things! You have actually stated that you don't trust experts in their fields because experts have been use by bad men in the past! THAT IS STUPID! Experts have been used by GOOD people in the past...for the greater good of mankind! Yet, you think it's normal to rely on some obscure conspiracy minded quack on matters of worldwide importance. I'm sorry....there is no other word to describe this than "stupid". It's a badge you have earned and you must wear it!

The actual developer of the PCR test, has spoke out, in regard to the faulty results they are obtaining, testing for a coronavirus.

So, its you, that is misguiding the public.

No, I fucking don't trust so called experts I trust Kary Mullis because I was one step removed from him. Guess what asshat, some of us have lived very complex lives, which is why we are here. Some 'obscure conspiracy minded quack' was the fucking inventor of the test you prat. So piss off nonce. You shall shill no more because I bane you from the interwebs. Bring it on a wee little cunt. I can argue this with data. You can't.

Yet, Kerry Mullis never made the statements that are attributed to him. It was John Laurie's about AIDS and HIV, not Covid19

You have yet to show the test doesn't work. I'll continue to accept the testimony of experts over paranoid losers on conspiracy sites.

No, he didn't. As usual, something was taken out of context and misunderstood by fucking paranoid morons.

All one has to do is Google it to see the confusion.

Of course, conspiracy cunts will find the most negative garbage they can find and call it truth.

Fucking morons...the lot of ya!

No, I fucking don't trust so called experts I trust Kary Mullis because I was one step removed from him. Guess what asshat, some of us have lived very complex lives, which is why we are here. Some 'obscure conspiracy minded quack' was the fucking inventor of the test you prat. So piss off nonce. You shall shill no more because I bane you from the interwebs. Bring it on a wee little cunt. I can argue this with data. You can't.

Bullshit, you asshat. You are an agent, i get that...but at least try and have the same skill sets as your opponents because at present you suck. There are dozens of video's with Kary saying it is not a diagnostic tool. I don't want to pull them up, again, unless you tell your boss to send in a better troll. Because you suck. SO send in the trolls!

Please show the "data".

Bullshit, you asshat. You are an agent, i get that...but at least try and have the same skill sets as your opponents because at present you suck. There are dozens of video's with Kary saying it is not a diagnostic tool. I don't want to pull them up, again, unless you tell your boss to send in a better troll. Because you suck. SO send in the trolls!

We already have. You just can't accept it because you nedd your three fiddy and are

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I'm not going to slog through your BS posts to find your nugget. Post it again or STFU you pathetic loser.

We already have. You just can't accept it because you nedd your three fiddy and are

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Piss off nonce. We are done with people like you.

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Who is "we", nutjob. You and I are two people having a discussion. Do you mean "we", as in pathetic paranoid losers?! Well, I'm not done with you! I'm sick of the retarded nonsense you people spew and I'll keep fighting it until my dying breath. Conspiracy nuts and all their false accusations are ruining society. If I had my way, you would all have to prove your accusations, or serve time in prison for slander, defamation and libel.

Who is "we", nutjob. You and I are to people having a discussion. Do you mean "we", as in pathetic paranoid losers?! Well, I'm not done with you! I'm sick of the retarded nonsense you people spew and I'll keep fighting it until my dying breath. Conspiracy nuts and all their false accusations are ruining society. If I had my way, you would all have to prove your accusations, or serve time in prison for slander, defamation and libel.