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If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected. Period

 
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If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected. Period
From S. Findley Webb:

Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
Tic Toc... Tic Toc...

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You are going to have a lot of obama slurpers angry...
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So it all rests in Mike "electric fence" Pence's hands now?
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You are going to have a lot of obama slurpers angry...
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Good. We don't care. I'm going to rub it in their faces.
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You are going to have a lot of obama slurpers angry...
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Good. We don't care. I'm going to rub it in their faces.
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It is better than a violent civil war...but it just may trigger one!
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Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
Tic Toc... Tic Toc...
 Quoting: Capt Dan


EXACTLY. They knew how deep corruption COULD go (in a democratic republic vs a republic) and they set up fail-safes just in case it had to go to a last resort.

Fantastic genius by the forefathers.
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not every Republican would vote for Trump/
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Friday or bust. Can't trust politicians. Can't trust GOP.
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not every Republican would vote for Trump/
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Unfortunately you are right...
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not every Republican would vote for Trump/
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The STATE legislature determines their vote and it is presented by the representative THEY choose.

If a rep did what you suggest they would destroy their career.
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not every Republican would vote for Trump/
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The STATE legislature determines their vote and it is presented by the representative THEY choose.

If a rep did what you suggest they would destroy their career.
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If there is only ONE dissenter in Congress, and the motion is seconded, then the vote goes to the Senate. Then one vote per state. I don't have much confidence that all of the GOP Senators would vote for Trump...
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It is going to get interesting...
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Re: If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected. Period
From S. Findley Webb:

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.


 Quoting: Capt Dan


I'm sorry, but I think this is incorrect, sir.

This is mixing phases: The Electoral College Phase and The Contingent Election Phase.

In The Electoral College phase, yes, objections can be made IN WRITING, originating in one chamber and being seconded by the other chamber (House Rep. and Senator). Once that objection is sustained, then yes, the Joint Session of Congress is suspended and the chambers separate to debate the objection. BUT the objection can be defeated by simple majority in the chambers.
Voting by state delegation, or en bloc, only occurs in the Contingent Election phase.
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From S. Findley Webb:

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.


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I'm sorry, but I think this is incorrect, sir.

This is mixing phases: The Electoral College Phase and The Contingent Election Phase.

In The Electoral College phase, yes, objections can be made IN WRITING, originating in one chamber and being seconded by the other chamber (House Rep. and Senator). Once that objection is sustained, then yes, the Joint Session of Congress is suspended and the chambers separate to debate the objection. BUT the objection can be defeated by simple majority in the chambers.
Voting by state delegation, or en bloc, only occurs in the Contingent Election phase.
 Quoting: EarthNotAPlanet


Also I should note that the Vice President being the subject of the matter debated typically is barred or abstains from casting any tie-breaking vote.
Mola Ram did nothing wrong.
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From S. Findley Webb:

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.


 Quoting: Capt Dan


I'm sorry, but I think this is incorrect, sir.

This is mixing phases: The Electoral College Phase and The Contingent Election Phase.

In The Electoral College phase, yes, objections can be made IN WRITING, originating in one chamber and being seconded by the other chamber (House Rep. and Senator). Once that objection is sustained, then yes, the Joint Session of Congress is suspended and the chambers separate to debate the objection. BUT the objection can be defeated by simple majority in the chambers.
Voting by state delegation, or en bloc, only occurs in the Contingent Election phase.
 Quoting: EarthNotAPlanet


Also I should note that the Vice President being the subject of the matter debated typically is barred or abstains from casting any tie-breaking vote.
 Quoting: EarthNotAPlanet


Interesting
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Some method will elect him. Each day a new thread shows how he can win and claims to be legitimate. The hardest part is choosing how hes gonna win.
Not anutter cig nature.
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but 47 dem senators will vote biden -- and at least 7 RINOs will do (Sasse, Romney, Collins, Murkowski, etc)
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Hopefully Nadler shows up in a dress and sings at the end.





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