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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
Sabai_Adonais

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This is more difficult than I thought it would be. I have only scattered memories of the general time I'd like to perceive, all from my (vs not-my) perspective. I've no idea what "surrounded" them, really. I remember the characters and the bits of the narrative that were "mine," but not really what the characters were doing outside of "me" or in what order the bits of the narrative went

I have this idea that neuronics can be used to "see" what surrounds any given perception. I've had this experience "going forward," before, where I took a current perception and followed a logical line and incredibly-accurately predicted an outcome (I mean, "created," really). But I figure this can be done in the reverse to "see" what logically "led up to" something. Like, being able to "see" what tree a certain apple came from. I mean, that's sort of what "memory" is, right? Seeing what "led up" to right now from my (vs not-my) perspective?

I know I just make it up anyway so I definitely could just make something entirely new up, but I'd like the details to be close-ish, so I'd like to be able to take a memory and have sort of an "expanded view" of it. Does that make sense I feel like I'm not articulating this well, lol.

Sort of like you did with the moon-colored car, I think? That still mystifies me

Any tips on this other than "more practice with neuronics" (bc of course more interaction with it "opens" more possibilities)?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais


I'm thinking it might be easier to "aim for" the summer part of 2011 instead of the spring part of 2012, because the former was already a "transition." I moved from one type of school to an other, so I really didn't know anyone anyway, whereas in the early part of 2012 I was very involved in a lot of interpersonal relationships (that I don't remember the details of).

Though, I think it has been said that it'd be easier to "appear" on a busy street corner than somewhere more secluded.
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So, what does the demise of everyones bigly favorite hated orange neanderthal woman signify, in my perspective?

I must say I am bummed.
 Quoting: Tuuur 3.0


"It ain't over till the fat lady sings"
 Quoting: The Builder


And she’s pretty quiet still.
 Quoting: Tuuur 3.0


There is no need to rush. Self-implosion takes some time.

From 4 years ago:

A simple illustration

1 - Weak link in 'Dark State' chain appointed as most powerful head of the visible State

the general public slowly begins to question the nature of reality

2 - Sit back and await incompetence (and enforced political ideologies)

the fabric of society begins to unravel

3 - Dark State more fully exposed, highlighting vulnerabilities

the general public become less sure of what reality is. What is true, what is false?

4 - Society begins to break down at fundamental levels

the dream world begins to more fully materialize

5 - Counterforces begin to take hold of the new structure, and appoints new leader to represent their own internal efforts at discovering who they really are

the general public begins to realize they can make their own destiny. "I have control over my own destiny"

6 - The power of the Dark State diminishes, allowing us to see more of what reality really is through altered daily interactions. (Seeing your truer nature more easily reflected in public life, for example.)

All of this (and all of Chaol/Chaom's and my posts) have been about uncovering the nature of reality through various means.

What we're experiencing is just the logical narrative to arrive at the point of understanding what you are, and what reality is.
 Quoting: Gammon


1 = 2008

5 = 2016

6 = 2020

2022 = The re-birth of a humanity, so to speak.

2029 - Ready to step fully into the role
 Quoting: The Builder


Posted in january 2021.
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I certainly feel re-born. It's messy and nothing makes any sense
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I think my batista gave me regular peach syrup instead of the sugar free I asked for :(

How do we feel about sugar replacements, by the way?
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I think my batista gave me regular peach syrup instead of the sugar free I asked for :(

How do we feel about sugar replacements, by the way?
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Stevia for example, yes or no?
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I see the world, the battle, the meta-fiction, the aoc have produced. The eyes they have tuned in, the record setting numbers, even the blind are following.

It's amazing how it's human nature, to live in our meta-heads. Such percentages of life are unspoken, intangible.

Aoc are the masters of this reality, for most of us. Perhaps the 2nd and third generation of ecsys students will play the character into the last act who plays the role of someone who can help you to remember that you are the author and authority of your reality.

Chaos for all, let chaos rip you to meta >:)
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Can you expand on the metaphysical interpretation alternate to evolution here, in Metaphy, or on the website? Once again studying evolutionary theory in anthropology (though I personally fail to see it's relevance in the field, even with the field being as fabricated as it is). I understand that lots has been falsified and such, but why are there different yet similar species extant, ignoring the "theory of evolution"?

I have the idea that it's because that's what "makes sense" for this interpretation of reality but .. why does it "make sense" for there to be tigers and house cats, and humans and chimps?
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I see the world, the battle, the meta-fiction, the aoc have produced. The eyes they have tuned in, the record setting numbers, even the blind are following.

It's amazing how it's human nature, to live in our meta-heads. Such percentages of life are unspoken, intangible.

Aoc are the masters of this reality, for most of us. Perhaps the 2nd and third generation of ecsys students will play the character into the last act who plays the role of someone who can help you to remember that you are the author and authority of your reality.

Chaos for all, let chaos rip you to meta >:)
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Need me an Alphen tbh
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Sometimes I have such dreams, of living an alternate life. It's normal, until I wake up. The walls, the objects, memories start to flood my mind of who and what I am, here. It's all in the relationships and things around us. To a certain degree. Good thing I am racing against time and must rush out the door before I can orderly figure out things and relationships.
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For myself, I have a difficult time stringing together a narrative of my dreams outside of the interpretation I remember (which is largely nonsensical and littered with people I know from this life). I'm sure I lead a different life, but I haven't a clue what I'm doing
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Whatever I was doing this past sleep, I understood something. Even brought it with me into this world, gibbered something or other while I was still half asleep. Then immediately lost it.
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The more the information is used, the more information there will be. What is information? Allow me to share Gregory Bateson's expression: information is a difference that makes a difference.

What this suggests is that a difference that doesn't make a difference is meaningless or not important. It is irrelevant. Such things are not worth focusing on. It isn't worth using them to get more of such meaningless or unimportant information (of the kind that is the difference that makes no difference).

Why did the metaphysical ones walk down the street? Why did they not teleport to their destination? Because it is not the purpose to do "cool stuff". The purpose is to have meaningful experiences.

It can be meaningful to resonate with the collective suffering of humanity. It can be meaningful to watch dust play in the beams of light filtering through the curtains. Well, that isn't the important part.

Information is a difference. It makes a difference. How does this expression of meaning - the meaning of information - (as the meaning of the word named 'information') relate to minds in this place?

Studying the websites of The Builder revealed many things about the important and meaningful and relevant ideas which can be made useful. It is possible to find it more useful, the more it is used.

I discovered something named Essence Mathematics, which suggests that a thought is the relation of mental (metaphysical) essence. The relation is the unit of the two. This is something I understand to mean the Noonet develops as you utilize it.

To note, the difference in using information and utilizing it. It could be obvious. The one gets use out of it and the other makes use of it. The prior uses it and the latter makes it useful.

If the meaning of Essence Mathematics is understood, the Noonet cannot be built alone. The sharing of meaning and information that makes a difference is the construction of it. Essence is indivisible uniqueness. It is beyond comparison.

Alone, the mind is possibility alone. Notions do not exist. They are only virtual, or possible. Virtual means it can be, yet isn't (yet).

Then, where possibilities interact, there structure is.
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Perhaps this: The relation of possible minds is the structure of the Noonet as it is Built: co-structed.
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Will faries be included in the giants & dragons bit? From a lot of accounts, "the fey" seem to be able to manipulate perception. I wondered if really they were people from the DreamWorld who knew one (or two) extra facts and so only appeared to be "magic."
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Martyria - A rhetorical term. "Confirming something by referring to one's own experience.".

Searching that such as electronically communicated duplicated filing systems results in definitions surrounding the glorification of martyrdom as "self sacrifice".

It is astounding to see how such a useful term can be obscured by an overwhelming meaning that has an essentially antithetical value.

To accentuate the value of confirming something by referring to one's own experience exalts the individual.

Yet, to glorify self sacrifice deprecates it! It is the destruction of the individual....and for what?

For what?

Not for the self. Surely not.

Christianity could not ever be about self sacrifice unless the theology of divine redemption must be false. If the blameless one were crucified and yet arose as living, metaphysical, it is proof of his innocence.

Then, why did the martyrs "fall asleep" (why did they die)? Apostle Paul invented theological answers which were necessary for the understanding at the time.

Christianity could not be about self sacrifice because if it WOULD, it would be the same to deny that the representative payment, the Christ, would took on the sins of all, dying and again living, is enough.

It is to say the price is insufficient.

This would mean he was blemished or simply that his death was not for them.

So who would sacrifice their self? To whom? Why?

Either those who did not believe Christ is Absolute, or those who would not partake in the redemption.

Confirming something by referring to one's own experience.

This is the basis of "Follow me". Christ did not say "walk behind me". Christ did not say "imitate me".

Christ said, go into Self. Found the physical of the metaphysical. Perceive the metaphysical of the physical.

It is all ready there for you to see.
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Well, I'm glad you understand
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Summarizing notes from things learned complete. Encryption active.
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Ohhh things are getting hot and spicy in America

Does the selfish way recognize "rights," as it were? I wouldn't think so, as I think "rights" imply an authority that grants rights. Plus, "rights" aren't very useful. One can say everyone has a right to food and water, but that doesn't do anything for making such available. "But you have the right to it, and recognizing the right is the important thing"

Idk idk idk
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The Builder,

Your terms of 'soon' and 'recently' have gotten better are dating certain processes of events.

Could you date the following:

Trans-humanism reps, 'freeing of the physical form.' 2022~? month~?
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Oh also, what's a more balanced sleep schedule like?

So the story goes, it was after the industrial revolution that the whole 8 hours of sleep uninterrupted thing started. According to some, before that, people would go to sleep at sundown, wake up for an hour or so in the early morning hours, then sleep for another couple hours (aka polyphasic sleep cycles)

Recently, I'm finding that after 12 hours of being awake I Definitely Need To Go To Sleep. As of right now, I've been awake for 6 hours, and I'm getting signals that I Really Ought To Go To Sleep.
 Quoting: SabAdo 80635221

I suppose you could say that it depends on the person, but when each is in their flow they will know what a beneficial schedule is like for them.

It might look something like this, with some variations.:

8PM - sleep
10PM - partially awaken
1AM - sleep
5AM - awaken

Think of it like this:

until evening: beta state of mind
evening-to-first sleep: alpha/theta state
between first and second sleep: theta/delta state
second sleep: delta/gama state

The internal sun's schedule is centered around the external sun's schedule. (Pineal gland/Sol)

even an afternoon nap or siesta could be helpful. In a way, it is merging the so-called physical with the so-called metaphysical.

I've seen some say that 20 minute naps every 2-4 hours (totalling 2-3 hours of sleep a day) is the way to go. What say you?

The "evolution" of sleep cycles is interesting
 Quoting: SabAdo 80635221

I'm a fan of 5 to 10-minute naps every few hours, but that one sounds good, too. If you can, just make sure that sunlight is hitting your eyelids as you nap.
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"— a seemingly-endless system that I refer to as 'the cult of Satan', though they are that which clothes and feeds most of the world and facilitates things that were forbidden for the 'good side', such as electricity —"

This sentence gives me trouble, does this mean electricity isn't allowed in the metaphysical world?

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Is metaphy monthly?
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I anticipate getting the next issue out around the same time next month, but it's not on a set schedule.

Metaphy is a kind of genius model and there are a few things that it will help birthe, so the sooner the better.
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Recipes.
For both physical and metaphysical bodies, please. :)
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I doubt if anyone would like the recipes I have to offer.

The more simply your food is processed, the better.

Here is a sample.

Breakfast Recipe: Eggs and Fruit Meravigliosa

Need: 3 eggs, fruits

How to prepare: Boil the eggs and open the fruit. Enjoy!
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is yellowstone going to erupt any time soon by any chance?
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You mean like the CGI eruptions of nature programs, or more of an oozing forth?

The geologic narrative of the Cult is mostly fiction to sell the deceptions of evolution, angry god/gods, and such.

However, certain geological features (e.g., some mountains) have more metaphysical connections and 'erupt' in their own ways. I don't think Yellowstone is one of them, though.

Yellowstone is one of many ways that FEAR is sold to certain populations. The Fear catalogue has something for everyone.
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Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Recipes.
For both physical and metaphysical bodies, please. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74946508

I doubt if anyone would like the recipes I have to offer.

The more simply your food is processed, the better.

Here is a sample.

Breakfast Recipe: Eggs and Fruit Meravigliosa

Need: 3 eggs, fruits

How to prepare: Boil the eggs and open the fruit. Enjoy!
 Quoting: The Builder


So the sugar in fruit is alright?

It's truly a shame that I don't like eggs, they're so easy to make and have a good amount of protein:( I s'pose I can stomach them. Mostly just been eating butter, peanut butter, and jelly sandwiches. Though there's probably more sugar in the jelly than is advisable
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Oh and a fashion section:
Fibonacci Sequins - Form-flattering interpretations for any occasion?
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A fashion section isn't a bad idea, actually.
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is yellowstone going to erupt any time soon by any chance?
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You mean like the CGI eruptions of nature programs, or more of an oozing forth?

The geologic narrative of the Cult is mostly fiction to sell the deceptions of evolution, angry god/gods, and such.

However, certain geological features (e.g., some mountains) have more metaphysical connections and 'erupt' in their own ways. I don't think Yellowstone is one of them, though.

Yellowstone is one of many ways that FEAR is sold to certain populations. The Fear catalogue has something for everyone.
 Quoting: The Builder


This is fair. I was frightened as I asked the question, though I suspected that was by design. So I'm safe to visit it, then? :P

What about Mt St. Helens? I wasn't alive for it, but my mother was in the vicinity enough to experience the ashfall. Surely that wasn't faked?
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It seems that you became aware of the drug itself (via the structure of its chemical composition) rather than aware of any altered consciousness.

You've integrated that structure into your body's awareness, I would guess.

You've integrated that structure into your body's awareness, I would guess. It may not be fear but a kind of friction, like that between a cat you've had for a few years and a new one you just brought home.
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Yeah, "altered consciousness" is in quotes bc I'm still wrapping my head around the idea that states induced by drugs are the states of the drugs and not actual "altered states of consciousness," per se. Still in the soap bubble stage

The cat analogy makes sense, I think, but what's the old cat, what's the new cat, and what's the cat fighting (friction)? I guess the friction would be the anxiety: hard to breathe, heart palpitations, thoughts that I'm dying, etc. Is the old cat "me" and the new cat the drug? Or is the new cat "the effects of the drug" (which is the drug just applied to more areas of my perspective)?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Old cat = the familiar structure that you call 'me'
New cat = a new structure in the form of a powerful drug
The friction = when the two meet

[snippies]
Time to un-integrate! I'll write a letter. Would re-defining "sleepiness" help, you think? I'll try and see what happens
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

I know very little about drugs as we think of them. A drug, to me, would be something like caffeine or a piece of cake with lots of sugar. (I left formal school when I was quite young and I was never exposed to that.) I'm not sure how to respond to your question.
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Oh also, this actor from one of the more recent distractions looks a bit familiar, don't you think? Uncanny
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Old cat = the familiar structure that you call 'me'
New cat = a new structure in the form of a powerful drug
The friction = when the two meet

 Quoting: The Builder


That makes sense. I haven't touched the stuff in ages though. I think the structure of the drug mingled with the structure of "sleepiness," giving the friction just when tired without the drug.

I wrote a letter and I haven't had quite as bad reactions when tired since, though still a bit. It isn't quite as severe or frightening. So thank you for that advice





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