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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
Sabai_Adonais

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why?
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Is the Hadron Collider/CERN of any real significance or is that theater
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I take note that you prefer not to share interpretations of markets, stocks, crypto, due to the possibility of people gambling off your interpretations.

I would like to revisit the statement of gold being $20,000 per ounce. But I am almost hesitant to stir up a conversation about it because the time is nigh?

How could it be that gold would be $20,000 per ounce? Must paper price actually reach $0? A big crash like that is not up to current interpretations.

With all this 'sun' talk gold, how does gold relate to sun, physicality?

Does the world change much if gold $20,000 per ounce? Or has the change already happened..
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Any comment on why the Dutch farmers are targeted by the government in a way, that many of them will not be able to continue their business?

Is it to starve the people, or is is to get them to eat only highly processed, maybe even produced foods from labs?

Not that I believe farmers here have a healthy way of running things. But still
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How were teeth taken care of effectively before toothpaste? Ofc with a high-sugar diet there's more tooth decay (leading teeth to need to be "remineralized" or filled), but even without sugar one still needs to keep their mouth clean, right?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Toothbrushes and toothpaste aren't needed, of course. They're relatively new. Sticks can do the job just fine. But open them up first :)

I'm not sure about the "remineralized" part. It sounds fishy.
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I'm assuming you do the steps of the genius using neuronics? Oh boy, I can't even figure how to put "green" and "knife" together ((yet)), let alone create a story

Would you help me design a genius (maybe not now, maybe after the genius section or metaphy issue 2 is live) for being ""psychic"". Poor word, I think, but being able to glean "facts" of an obscured situation from bits of information.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

More information will come with time. To others it might be information, but it reflects 'external' events. Here we push the envelope of perspective.

Say a loved one was in a situation where they were drunk and can't remember the series of events that took place for a few hours. The person they were with was also drunk and is an unreliable narrator even when not. Both people are within one's perspective, of course, but so are the few hours that are "missing."
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Curious... what would be the benefit of knowing?

I figure it's something to do with putting myself in the shoes of the loved one, so to speak, but the only way I know how to do that is in imagination and physical acts of imagination aren't necessarily useful for a metaphysical process of ""seeing."" Also, if one was to truly put themselves in the loved ones shoes, they also wouldn't be privy to the information the loved one doesn't remember. I think. Not sure.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Somewhat. It's more of a realisation that you are that person and thinking of what you are doing or what events are occurring in past/present. (For 'future' events, a great degree of rationality is required that would remove concerns for that future experience or thing.

Also, doesn't the body need minerals? Iron for blood, calcium for bones, etc.?

I can see how the body'd be able to synthesize its own vitamins, we already popularly know we do that with vitamin D, but I don't get how minerals fall into the equation
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

The body can make what it needs by putting the elements together.
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What type of hair cover should we use? Leather or natural fabric? I suppose that synthetic fabric are not good.
Is it best to keep our hair knot-free?
Should hair be tied while sleeping or not?
 Quoting: kolosama

Knots are fine, but at night wrapping is best. Step into your flow and you will know what to do.

Is there no risk of body demineralization if we drink reverse osmosis water?
 Quoting: kolosama

There are plenty of minerals and building blocks in foods, among other sources.

I don't think that water is fluoridated in France.
 Quoting: kolosama

In Europe, it's mostly through milk and salt rather than water.

An overview: [link to www.ibiblio.org (secure)]

What is your opinion on yoga?
 Quoting: kolosama

Some I know that are into it give me a strange look when I call it 'fancy stretching'. The meaning has been lost, but any type of frequent, modest stretching is good. Simple is best.

Is there any link between the pineal gland and the tongue?
 Quoting: kolosama

Do you mean the physical tongue or speech?

Would 10-15 min of rope skipping done 5 days a week for weight loss and lymphatic system stimulation be harmful to my health?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
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Step into your flow and do what seems right to you, in your perspective.

Such exercises might be quite ineffective for weight loss, though. May I ask, is there a reason why your lymphatic system would need extra stimulation?
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But CBDCs are in the oven, so lots of money is being printed before hyperinflation kicks in. They are meant to control the flow of money and be an improved form of communism (as it is value itself that they imagine can be controlled). The Cult thinks that inflation can be managed because of the ability to apply permissions to money and, thus, control supply and demand.
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Sorry, whats a CBDC? Or I guess, how do they connect to what you call communism? The FED's explanation isn't very clear\
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Central Bank Digital Currencies: What form that 'they' want cash and other monies to take in future.

Complete government control over a person's daily life and business. Incentivising certain beliefs or actions over others, for example.

The central bank folks would explain it differently, of course.

The inflation is engineered to nudge populations into making different choices. More 'sustainable' choices, as they would say. All for complete control, in their imaginations.
 Quoting: The Builder


"Sustainable" choices such as?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

'Sustainable development' choices such as the so-called electric vehicles, non-meat foods, and not leaving your country.

So it's not the exercise itself that's detrimental but the decision to exercise and the factors that are "behind" the decision?

I've been seeing more promotion of walking, recently, on social media. An ad I saw was something like

a: "how do you stay so fit, what's your intense exercise routine?"

b: "oh, I just walk, that's much healthier for you"

"Download this app to count your steps and get in shape!"

I've been seeing such promotion for years in my more immediate surroundings, as the company who has a practical monopoly on healthcare in my area gives bonuses to employees who hit step-count goals.

If one were to start walking bc they saw that ad or because their employer gives incentives, that would also diminish the sense of Self, no?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Like most kinds of music, the idea is to waste your time and get you to focus on what doesn't benefit you. (Think of all the messages in songs that played in your head today and all the possibilities they replaced.)

Exercise itself is not detrimental. The kinds of exercises they promote is. And, if walking is being promoted in such a way, is it really about the walking or about the information that can be gained (via the mobile application, for example)?

The fingers of the Cult are everywhere people care to look, even in things that can, by themselves, help.

The information is in their relationships :)

Think of it like a triangle and a square, neither of which have value by themselves but have value in how each is positioned in relation to the other.

Inspecting a sprite, nothing much would be found. (Though anything can be found with certain equipment, properties of the instruments themselves.)
 Quoting: The Builder


Is there a way to see more of what they're "doing," as it were?
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Yes, but it would require a near-complete change in lifestyle and system of thought.

Or you could keep your day job and realise that you are all ready sensing them, in the world around you :)
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If one intended, could they see colors not on the accepted visible light spectrum by naming them? How would that work
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As I've mentioned before, there is no 'color' in things. It's a characteristic of the method we use to 'see' the thing.

So I guess it depends on your definition of it.
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sometimes, reading your words feels painful. it isn't small pain. it feels like deep betrayal. that's why i dont suppose this message means anything to you.
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Auntie, is that you?
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Is the Hadron Collider/CERN of any real significance or is that theater
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Theatre, of course. Like the supposed demons they really, really want you to believe they are summoning.

It's all theatre, including their machines. The tunnel they've been building for 100+ years is real, but it doesn't go where they want it to go. They money they receive for their performance is real, too.
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I take note that you prefer not to share interpretations of markets, stocks, crypto, due to the possibility of people gambling off your interpretations.

I would like to revisit the statement of gold being $20,000 per ounce. But I am almost hesitant to stir up a conversation about it because the time is nigh?
 Quoting: SpawnX

I believe the quote you're referring to is about digital gold and $21,000 per (Bitcoin).
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Any comment on why the Dutch farmers are targeted by the government in a way, that many of them will not be able to continue their business?

Is it to starve the people, or is is to get them to eat only highly processed, maybe even produced foods from labs?

Not that I believe farmers here have a healthy way of running things. But still
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

Staged, for purposes of supply chain disruption. Real protests don't get covered in mass media, unless they are first co-opted. They need to mix fake and real for it to be accepted, so there are real people getting caught up in the script.

Similar things are happening across the world. The purpose is communism.
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Curious... what would be the benefit of knowing?
 Quoting: The Builder


In this specific case, information points to the second party almost killing the first (intentionally or unintentionally). "Knowing" would mean a difference in the future of the relationship with the second party. Whatever happened between the two is an expression of a relationship, but it's difficult to decide how to "alter" (reinterpret) the relationship without being able to know what "actually happened"

Somewhat. It's more of a realisation that you are that person and thinking of what you are doing or what events are occurring in past/present.
 Quoting: The Builder


This presents frustration because I know what this means and I've "done it" but I don't know how or how to do it again. In the past, with the same loved one, I've experienced "telepathy" which, from what I understand, is just two people being one person and basically thinking to themselves. When it comes to telepathy, I get that its more of a "reception" of a perception of "your thoughts" in "their head" rather than a "sending out" of thoughts as its typically depicted. (I assume telepathy, teleportation, telekinesis, all the tele-s work basically on the same principle(s)) This was very spur of the moment, and attempts to do it purposefully have been unsuccessful because, I think, my idea of who the other person is gets in the way, so to speak, of "being" that person.

Similar frustrations to my questions of ""time travel"": "I've done it, I just don't know how!!" lol

(For 'future' events, a great degree of rationality is required that would remove concerns for that future experience or thing.
 Quoting: The Builder


Like having a memory of the future?

There's something I don't quite have my head around: on one hand, having a "memory of the future" makes a thing come to pass, so to speak, was a revelation I had very early on in my investigations into the metaphysical (and I now know it has to do with the fact that "memory" is a more structured representation than not-memory, or our typical experience of the future, and perspective is attracted to the less-structured representation), but I've so far failed to reconcile that with the practice of "remembering things" in order to make them "go away."

With a lot of things in the now-present that I'd prefer not to experience, such as some kinds of pain, or being stuck behind a stupid driver on the road, I can make them pass fairly quickly if not immediately if I say "this already happened; I remember being in this situation and it was okay to experience." So I'm structuring it, and perspective moves away from it.

So if you have a "memory" of the future, I would think that would push one away from that particular experience. Or, in practice, is it more like "remembering" everything but the experience intended?

Central Bank Digital Currencies: What form that 'they' want cash and other monies to take in future.

Complete government control over a person's daily life and business. Incentivising certain beliefs or actions over others, for example.

The central bank folks would explain it differently, of course.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ah, thanks

'Sustainable development' choices such as the so-called electric vehicles, non-meat foods, and not leaving your country.
 Quoting: The Builder


At least the first choice doesn't appear to be an easier decision to make. Such vehicles are expensive. Or is the point to get more people to take out loans to get such vehicles

Like most kinds of music, the idea is to waste your time and get you to focus on what doesn't benefit you. (Think of all the messages in songs that played in your head today and all the possibilities they replaced.)

 Quoting: The Builder


I don't get songs stuck in my head so much anymore. The ol' noggin has been feeling very empty as of late (which is somewhat distressing bc at times it feels as though I've forgotten how to think)

Exercise itself is not detrimental. The kinds of exercises they promote is. And, if walking is being promoted in such a way, is it really about the walking or about the information that can be gained (via the mobile application, for example)?

The fingers of the Cult are everywhere people care to look, even in things that can, by themselves, help.
 Quoting: The Builder


I suppose it is about the information when it comes to the app, and when it comes to the certain employer I know, it's about lowering cost for insurance on their end, same reason they don't allow employees to smoke at all

Yes, but it would require a near-complete change in lifestyle and system of thought.

Or you could keep your day job and realise that you are all ready sensing them, in the world around you :)
 Quoting: The Builder


I don't have a day job (though it appears I may need one soon, which is unfortunate, but I haven't figured how to make money appear elsewise). Is the system of thought the same system as neuronics? I'd like to have that system, but as of right now it doesn't appear to be a "system," as it were. Defining things in neuronics is well and good, but I'm yet lost in how to think in it. Issue of syntax, I think, as I brought up a few posts back. Baby steps, I suppose

If one intended, could they see colors not on the accepted visible light spectrum by naming them? How would that work
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

As I've mentioned before, there is no 'color' in things. It's a characteristic of the method we use to 'see' the thing.

So I guess it depends on your definition of it.
 Quoting: The Builder


Of course there's no colors in things, even by the definition in physical perspective the color we perceive attributed to an object is the color that's reflected from the object (so by that logic, the object ""is"" really every color except the one we see)

The method we use to see things gives us characteristics on the so-called visible light spectrum and magenta, which isn't on the visible light spectrum. So the answer is "yes, we can perceive extra-spectral colors that aren't a spectral color mixed with grayscale because we can perceive magenta," but what came first, the perception of magenta or the naming of it? Of course they were both at the same time, but if I intended to perceive a color that no-one else (currently, from this perspective) can, how would that be done?

Is the Hadron Collider/CERN of any real significance or is that theater
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Theatre, of course. Like the supposed demons they really, really want you to believe they are summoning.

It's all theatre, including their machines. The tunnel they've been building for 100+ years is real, but it doesn't go where they want it to go. They money they receive for their performance is real, too.
 Quoting: The Builder


Where do they want it to go and where does it go?
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I take note that you prefer not to share interpretations of markets, stocks, crypto, due to the possibility of people gambling off your interpretations.

I would like to revisit the statement of gold being $20,000 per ounce. But I am almost hesitant to stir up a conversation about it because the time is nigh?
 Quoting: SpawnX

I believe the quote you're referring to is about digital gold and $21,000 per (Bitcoin).
 Quoting: The Builder


Wheels fall off of digital gold gives rise to 'physical gold'? Care to make another prediction price wise on 'physical gold'? Not paper gold, not digital gold, not bitcoin, but actual physical gold.

The fun ride, is, so fun, not.
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I believe the quote you're referring to is about digital gold and $21,000 per (Bitcoin).
 Quoting: The Builder


I believe this is pure inversion technique.
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In Europe, it's mostly through milk and salt rather than water.

An overview: [link to www.ibiblio.org (secure)]
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I was not aware of this, thanks.
I think, I am going to replace the salt I use with Himalayan salt and reduce my milk consumption since pasteurized milk is useless for the body anyway.
I think most salt are not bioavailable and are toxins, so they too are useless for the body but they do satisfy the addiction.

Some I know that are into it give me a strange look when I call it 'fancy stretching'. The meaning has been lost, but any type of frequent, modest stretching is good. Simple is best.
 Quoting: The Builder

I was thinking more about the breathing techniques than the stretching part.
Stuff like alternate nostril breathing, breathing with throat constriction, forceful breathing, Wim Hof method...

Do you mean the physical tongue or speech?
 Quoting: The Builder

I meant the physical tongue.

Such exercises might be quite ineffective for weight loss, though. May I ask, is there a reason why your lymphatic system would need extra stimulation?
 Quoting: The Builder

Do you mean that the only way to lose weight naturally is to stop eating processed garbage food?

I don't move that much so I do some rope skipping to stimulate my lymphatic system, it is most likely a wrong assumption on my part, like most of my knowledge.

I also do rope skipping to:
- Exercise my feet on a hard surface since I can't walk barefoot outside nor can I sprint casually due to social norms.
- Stop my feet from atrophying due to the excessive cushioning present in most shoes and their weird shape.
- Increase my endurance level.

It seems that the cult wants to atrophy our bodies through several methods, one of them being excessive cushioning everywhere.

Step into your flow and do what seems right to you, in your perspective.
 Quoting: The Builder

I think, it will take quite some time for me to be able to get ride of my addictions and cleanse my body of toxins so as to be able to step into my flow.

'Sustainable development' choices such as the so-called electric vehicles, non-meat foods, and not leaving your country.
 Quoting: The Builder

Is eating meat absolutely necessary?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Is the Hadron Collider/CERN of any real significance or is that theater
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Idol1 THEATER
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Same as D WAVE COMPUTERS
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Are nukes real? And if not what actually happened in Japan at the end if WWII
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'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, because they are you'???

Nooooooo.

They aren't you and you have to relate to them.

Don't let others define you.

Let others be others.

That is very basic.
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'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, because they are you'???

Nooooooo.

They aren't you and you have to relate to them.

Don't let others define you.

Let others be others.

That is very basic.
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Curious... what would be the benefit of knowing?
 Quoting: The Builder


In this specific case, information points to the second party almost killing the first (intentionally or unintentionally). "Knowing" would mean a difference in the future of the relationship with the second party. Whatever happened between the two is an expression of a relationship, but it's difficult to decide how to "alter" (reinterpret) the relationship without being able to know what "actually happened"
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Would you say that it is mostly emotions which are involved in this desire to know?

Somewhat. It's more of a realisation that you are that person and thinking of what you are doing or what events are occurring in past/present.
 Quoting: The Builder


This presents frustration because I know what this means and I've "done it" but I don't know how or how to do it again. In the past, with the same loved one, I've experienced "telepathy" which, from what I understand, is just two people being one person and basically thinking to themselves. When it comes to telepathy, I get that its more of a "reception" of a perception of "your thoughts" in "their head" rather than a "sending out" of thoughts as its typically depicted. (I assume telepathy, teleportation, telekinesis, all the tele-s work basically on the same principle(s)) This was very spur of the moment, and attempts to do it purposefully have been unsuccessful because, I think, my idea of who the other person is gets in the way, so to speak, of "being" that person.

Similar frustrations to my questions of ""time travel"": "I've done it, I just don't know how!!" lol
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Could we say that the first time was a surprise, without nearly as much emotion as the later desire for the same experience would exhibit?

(For 'future' events, a great degree of rationality is required that would remove concerns for that future experience or thing.
 Quoting: The Builder


Like having a memory of the future?

There's something I don't quite have my head around: on one hand, having a "memory of the future" makes a thing come to pass, so to speak, was a revelation I had very early on in my investigations into the metaphysical (and I now know it has to do with the fact that "memory" is a more structured representation than not-memory, or our typical experience of the future, and perspective is attracted to the less-structured representation), but I've so far failed to reconcile that with the practice of "remembering things" in order to make them "go away."

With a lot of things in the now-present that I'd prefer not to experience, such as some kinds of pain, or being stuck behind a stupid driver on the road, I can make them pass fairly quickly if not immediately if I say "this already happened; I remember being in this situation and it was okay to experience." So I'm structuring it, and perspective moves away from it.

So if you have a "memory" of the future, I would think that would push one away from that particular experience. Or, in practice, is it more like "remembering" everything but the experience intended?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

As I've mentioned before, 'future' is a characteristic of the present. It unfolds from the logic of the present. A logic which you build in the present (such as what I am doing here).

Yes, having a 'memory' of the future would make it less likely to 'happen', as it has all ready been satisfied. If the 'memory' is strong, say, if there are multiple branches of logic pointing to the 'memory', then it could still unfold.

'Sustainable development' choices such as the so-called electric vehicles, non-meat foods, and not leaving your country.
 Quoting: The Builder


At least the first choice doesn't appear to be an easier decision to make. Such vehicles are expensive. Or is the point to get more people to take out loans to get such vehicles
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

It would be an easy choice if it was the only one available :)

Then, choosing which electric vehicle to 'buy' would be the harder choice.

It has nothing to do with the environment, of course. (Since energy is exceedingly plentiful, including petroleum.) It's all about surveillance and control.

Like most kinds of music, the idea is to waste your time and get you to focus on what doesn't benefit you. (Think of all the messages in songs that played in your head today and all the possibilities they replaced.)

 Quoting: The Builder


I don't get songs stuck in my head so much anymore. The ol' noggin has been feeling very empty as of late (which is somewhat distressing bc at times it feels as though I've forgotten how to think)
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Human brains are wired for cults, so just be careful what you use to fill the space.

Yet, without cults there is no culture or civilisation.

Yes, but it would require a near-complete change in lifestyle and system of thought.

Or you could keep your day job and realise that you are all ready sensing them, in the world around you :)
 Quoting: The Builder


I don't have a day job (though it appears I may need one soon, which is unfortunate, but I haven't figured how to make money appear elsewise).
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Yes, but pay close attention to my response :)

The tips and edges of the geometric structures that seem as sprites when they relate to each other can also 'build' your experience of making money more useful for you. With them, anything is perceived. They don't care if you desire your experience to be of wealth or poverty. To them, it is the same and requires no additional efforts, so to speak.

If one intended, could they see colors not on the accepted visible light spectrum by naming them? How would that work
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

As I've mentioned before, there is no 'color' in things. It's a characteristic of the method we use to 'see' the thing.

So I guess it depends on your definition of it.
 Quoting: The Builder


Of course there's no colors in things, even by the definition in physical perspective the color we perceive attributed to an object is the color that's reflected from the object (so by that logic, the object ""is"" really every color except the one we see)

The method we use to see things gives us characteristics on the so-called visible light spectrum and magenta, which isn't on the visible light spectrum. So the answer is "yes, we can perceive extra-spectral colors that aren't a spectral color mixed with grayscale because we can perceive magenta," but what came first, the perception of magenta or the naming of it? Of course they were both at the same time, but if I intended to perceive a color that no-one else (currently, from this perspective) can, how would that be done?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

You would be making up the colors as you go along, just as you do with the current colors your sense.

'New' colors would unlikely be noticed, however, as they would appear to be as natural to the color spectrum as the others. You would experience them regardless.

To take an example of how this works in other ways, let's say that you just counted out $1,000 for a book that cost $1,000 and put it on the table in front of you. You went out for lunch and did something that messed up your equilibrium. Perhaps it was treating others as yourself all week and you somehow treated a cashier much differently. When you came home you counted out the money again, but this time you find that $1,000 is not enough because the book had been $1,250 all along.

So how would this relate to perceiving colors?

Is the Hadron Collider/CERN of any real significance or is that theater
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Theatre, of course. Like the supposed demons they really, really want you to believe they are summoning.

It's all theatre, including their machines. The tunnel they've been building for 100+ years is real, but it doesn't go where they want it to go. They money they receive for their performance is real, too.
 Quoting: The Builder


Where do they want it to go and where does it go?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

The metaphysical world, or at least their interpretation of it.

It doesn't go anywhere because there isn't much of anything down there.
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I take note that you prefer not to share interpretations of markets, stocks, crypto, due to the possibility of people gambling off your interpretations.

I would like to revisit the statement of gold being $20,000 per ounce. But I am almost hesitant to stir up a conversation about it because the time is nigh?
 Quoting: SpawnX

I believe the quote you're referring to is about digital gold and $21,000 per (Bitcoin).
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Wheels fall off of digital gold gives rise to 'physical gold'? Care to make another prediction price wise on 'physical gold'? Not paper gold, not digital gold, not bitcoin, but actual physical gold.

The fun ride, is, so fun, not.
 Quoting: SpawnX

There are three issues with physical gold.

1) It is not rare. There is far more physical gold than is publicly believed (all ready in storage, not in newly-found mines).

2) Much of the physical gold in official gold depositories is mixed with other things. The real stuff is held more privately.

3) Most of the gold on markets is paper gold rather than physical gold

Predictions cannot be made (because there is no future). Perspectives can only be controlled. By saying that something is happening in future we are bringing ourselves closer to that.

CBDCs are the new digital gold for much of the world. For a certain country is Asia, digital gold is both what they financed the growth of (Bitcoin) and a gold-backed CBDC that can tie into it.

The gold price for the public will rise, but keep in mind that the supply side of this market is not what it appears to be (because of 1, above).
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What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
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I believe the quote you're referring to is about digital gold and $21,000 per (Bitcoin).
 Quoting: The Builder


I believe this is pure inversion technique.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Only when more Bitcoin is had that gold :)

Both were talked about, but the former was in relation to when I would return.
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In Europe, it's mostly through milk and salt rather than water.

An overview: [link to www.ibiblio.org (secure)]
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I was not aware of this, thanks.
I think, I am going to replace the salt I use with Himalayan salt and reduce my milk consumption since pasteurized milk is useless for the body anyway.
I think most salt are not bioavailable and are toxins, so they too are useless for the body but they do satisfy the addiction.
 Quoting: kolosama

Why not just do without it rather than replacing it with something that is worse for you?
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In Europe, it's mostly through milk and salt rather than water.

An overview: [link to www.ibiblio.org (secure)]
 Quoting: The Builder

I was not aware of this, thanks.
I think, I am going to replace the salt I use with Himalayan salt and reduce my milk consumption since pasteurized milk is useless for the body anyway.
I think most salt are not bioavailable and are toxins, so they too are useless for the body but they do satisfy the addiction.
 Quoting: kolosama

Why not just do without it rather than replacing it with something that is worse for you?
 Quoting: The Builder


I know that salt which is added to food is a slow poison. It cannot be removed quickly enough and accumulate everywhere inside the body.

I stopped consuming Himalayan salt several years ago because I read that it contained some minerals which are toxic.

It is far easier to replace than to just remove a habit.

Also, I need to find a solution which can be accepted/applied by my family.

Avoiding all salt would mean that I have to make all my meals and avoid all processed food made by machines or by people.
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Would you say that it is mostly emotions which are involved in this desire to know?

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I would not, though we continue to disagree on what emotions are. The ""desire"" is to make informed choices on the relationship expressions I'm perceiving. The ""desire"" is to do what I already do, on purpose.

Could we say that the first time was a surprise, without nearly as much emotion as the later desire for the same experience would exhibit?
 Quoting: The Builder


Sure, but not everything is a surprise. If I plan to go to the mall next Tuesday because I have a desire to go shopping, it is not a surprise that I am in the mall on Tuesday. Perhaps what happens at the mall is a surprise, being at the mall is not.

Though, the means by which to get to the mall are very well defined. The "removal" of emotions doesn't necessarily help to define the means by which to "get to the mall"

As I've mentioned before, 'future' is a characteristic of the present. It unfolds from the logic of the present. A logic which you build in the present (such as what I am doing here).

 Quoting: The Builder


Yes, I know. English remains limited.

Human brains are wired for cults, so just be careful what you use to fill the space.

Yet, without cults there is no culture or civilisation.
 Quoting: The Builder


I'd like to fill it with a new way of thinking, but we're still only on the introduction.

Yes, but it would require a near-complete change in lifestyle and system of thought.

Or you could keep your day job and realise that you are all ready sensing them, in the world around you :)
 Quoting: The Builder


I don't have a day job (though it appears I may need one soon, which is unfortunate, but I haven't figured how to make money appear elsewise).
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Yes, but pay close attention to my response :)

The tips and edges of the geometric structures that seem as sprites when they relate to each other can also 'build' your experience of making money more useful for you. With them, anything is perceived. They don't care if you desire your experience to be of wealth or poverty. To them, it is the same and requires no additional efforts, so to speak.
 Quoting: The Builder


Then it would be wonder-full to communicate with them directly

You would be making up the colors as you go along, just as you do with the current colors your sense.

'New' colors would unlikely be noticed, however, as they would appear to be as natural to the color spectrum as the others. You would experience them regardless.
 Quoting: The Builder


Is not the value in seeing the difference between experiences

To take an example of how this works in other ways, let's say that you just counted out $1,000 for a book that cost $1,000 and put it on the table in front of you. You went out for lunch and did something that messed up your equilibrium. Perhaps it was treating others as yourself all week and you somehow treated a cashier much differently. When you came home you counted out the money again, but this time you find that $1,000 is not enough because the book had been $1,250 all along.

So how would this relate to perceiving colors?

 Quoting: The Builder


It's about ratios and relationships, since treating the cashier much differently caused a more "unbalanced" ratio, that relationship is expressed, re-presented as the imbalance between the money and the cost.

I don't know how that would relate to perceiving colors, I was thinking more along the lines of [link to blogs.unimelb.edu.au (secure)]

The "new color" is of course just an expression of a relationship.
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Some I know that are into it give me a strange look when I call it 'fancy stretching'. The meaning has been lost, but any type of frequent, modest stretching is good. Simple is best.
 Quoting: The Builder

I was thinking more about the breathing techniques than the stretching part.
Stuff like alternate nostril breathing, breathing with throat constriction, forceful breathing, Wim Hof method...
 Quoting: kolosama

Stretching the lungs or muscles is about the same. It's more than oxygenation, though all of the good stuff comes in the same package.

Do you mean the physical tongue or speech?
 Quoting: The Builder

I meant the physical tongue.
 Quoting: kolosama

There isn't a direct connection that I can think of that has more weight than the other vehicles for physical sense.

Such exercises might be quite ineffective for weight loss, though. May I ask, is there a reason why your lymphatic system would need extra stimulation?
 Quoting: The Builder

Do you mean that the only way to lose weight naturally is to stop eating processed garbage food?
 Quoting: kolosama

When garbage is eaten, the body goes into a state of shock and retains more of what it thinks it won't get (and parts of the system that the garbage interrupts, such as water). Excess weight gain often results.

"Weight loss" doesn't benefit the body by default. It depends on the body. Some people naturally have more body fat than others, while others may naturally have too little.

I don't move that much so I do some rope skipping to stimulate my lymphatic system, it is most likely a wrong assumption on my part, like most of my knowledge.

I also do rope skipping to:
- Exercise my feet on a hard surface since I can't walk barefoot outside nor can I sprint casually due to social norms.
- Stop my feet from atrophying due to the excessive cushioning present in most shoes and their weird shape.
- Increase my endurance level.
 Quoting: kolosama

I think as long as you can keep it up, consistently, it should be okay. Your body can more easily adapt when it knows what to expect, and can make modifications accordingly.

It seems that the cult wants to atrophy our bodies through several methods, one of them being excessive cushioning everywhere.
 Quoting: kolosama

Most of what is there are the choices that we have made.

The Cult is there to take advantage of our ('bad') choices, and of course profit from them in various ways.

However, without the Cult things would be much worse because we are too lazy to create and use our own systems. (The evidence for that being that we think we don't want to use their systems but also have no desire to create and make use of our own.)

That is why I am here. To destroy both and rebuild anew with very few who might understand why it was needed in the first place.

Step into your flow and do what seems right to you, in your perspective.
 Quoting: The Builder

I think, it will take quite some time for me to be able to get ride of my addictions and cleanse my body of toxins so as to be able to step into my flow.
 Quoting: kolosama

Sure. But just keep in mind there is no need to rid the body of addictions or things that are harmful to it.

It is often the 'negative' and Chaotic path that has the most value. There is no value in the Absolute, unfortunately, though it is the only true value itself (but it cannot be perceived). The value we perceive leans is from both, but leans toward the chaotic one.

The "good" path is no more virtuous than alternatives. It is just that the "good" path is needed to make sense of the Chaos that we need to be there in order to exist.

What is 'good' is what can be sustained for the longest time without awareness of harm to other aspects of your perspective. If you harm your immediate self directly, it is not "bad" because there may be an other reason for that harm, such as producing something even better.

Eating crap for 50 years isn't 'bad', per se. Eating healthy foods for the same period of time isn't 'good', either.

There are many people who believe they are doing 'good' and eating healthy foods and doing yoga, for example, that are actively doing 'evil' by promoting harmful exercises or diets that can result in long-term or permanent damage to others. For example, the many (mostly censored) injuries from doing yoga.

There is something that I will reveal in Superhumanism that is related to the above that might surprise most of us, but such things must be understood before the next 'level' of human development.

'Sustainable development' choices such as the so-called electric vehicles, non-meat foods, and not leaving your country.
 Quoting: The Builder

Is eating meat absolutely necessary?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
 Quoting: kolosama

Necessary for health? No.

But keep in mind that the Cult actively diminishes human photosynthesis (with their various blocking programs that satisfy our desire for ignorance) while promoting diets that make the body and mind weak.

With a well-functioning system, meat isn't necessary when so much else provide more of what we need. With all of the blockage, it becomes more necessary.

In a crap world, crap becomes more useful.

Just don't eat the skin of animals.

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