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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71088931 United States 01/05/2021 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 And the left is led by demonic baby eaters. Fact! With a zero sense of humor, and no imagination whatsoever. Just a mass of proud psychos that think their poop doesn’t stink. May they die, and leave others to lead that have hearts and souls. Not bought out by China. |
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User ID: 79793354 United States 01/05/2021 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79788902 Trump appointees and Republican led legislatures made state laws that were illegal!!! Where are the Trump judges to save you from, Trump?!!! States rights!!!! WRONG ass clown....the laws changed did NOT go through the legislators that is why their results are useless...election law changes MUST be done by legislators only..... Not true. In emergencies, others can make changes. Nothing illegal about any of the votes. No evidence of fraud or anything else. That is why the courts denied 60 of 61 lawsuits. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- The problem is not the problem, the problem is your attitude about the problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul .......................................................................... Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world ..................................... ..................................... "And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it's meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." -JFK .......................................................................... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 01/05/2021 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78842684 Cry babies? You motherfuckers violated every election law on the books and drug a duly elected President through the shit trough for 4 fucking years and you expect us to just let it go? Fat fucking chance kato... all your deranged prolapsed baby fucking heroes are going to swing for this shit count on that Show me evidence that there is any widespread fraud. I keep hearing the claim and seeing NOTHING to support the claims. What swayed you?! Just the claims? Shame on you! Anyone who says voter fraud did not occur either cannot understand very basic mathematical statistics or is choosing to believe a lie. . I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77436425 United States 01/05/2021 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If any state violated their own laws then certified.....Congress can refuse that certification or it's electors.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT so by that logic, since hillary won the popular vote in 2016, she could have done the same right, and you would have been fine with that since you are advocating for the same thing now got it |
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User ID: 9653749 United States 01/05/2021 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 Show me evidence that there is any widespread fraud. I keep hearing the claim and seeing NOTHING to support the claims. What swayed you?! Just the claims? Shame on you! Anyone who says voter fraud did not occur either cannot understand very basic mathematical statistics or is choosing to believe a lie. . I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 And the left is led by demonic baby eaters. Fact! With a zero sense of humor, and no imagination whatsoever. Just a mass of proud psychos that think their poop doesn’t stink. May they die, and leave others to lead that have hearts and souls. Not bought out by China. The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 And the left is led by demonic baby eaters. Fact! With a zero sense of humor, and no imagination whatsoever. Just a mass of proud psychos that think their poop doesn’t stink. May they die, and leave others to lead that have hearts and souls. Not bought out by China. "Baby eaters"?! Really?! And you don't think you people are crazy.... Holy shit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 Show me evidence that there is any widespread fraud. I keep hearing the claim and seeing NOTHING to support the claims. What swayed you?! Just the claims? Shame on you! Anyone who says voter fraud did not occur either cannot understand very basic mathematical statistics or is choosing to believe a lie. . I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 01/05/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 Anyone who says voter fraud did not occur either cannot understand very basic mathematical statistics or is choosing to believe a lie. . I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 Not enough space here to post all the nasty shit that Dems and their libtard shit sucking supporters are known for. Most of these things are criminal however. Like everyone on the right are saints. You people really don't understand that the rest of us KNOW you are hypocrites! Trust me, we certainly do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . Also, what is your source for the 60,000 votes for o Biden, with no down-ballot votes. To be honest, there are many out there who vote only for President and I'm sure you'd find similar numbers in many states, especially in states where the choices were terrible. Many people skip the issues. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 01/05/2021 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 Anyone who says voter fraud did not occur either cannot understand very basic mathematical statistics or is choosing to believe a lie. . I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 I can turn that right back on you and say you believe in widespread fraud because you want to. Go ahead, show me the math and then prove how the experts who explain away your stupid bullshit are wrong. We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . It's not shifting the burden of proof. You haven't adequately shown that there was fraud. I have to prove there wasn't fraud?! That would be me trying to prove a negative! You have NOT provided evidence of voter fraud. You have provided a claim that based on your interpretation and numbers you pulled if right wing sites that you believe fraud occurred. I have not asked you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to provide evidence. So far, all you give is opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 01/05/2021 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Once again, like a rabid dog you grab onto one piece of evidence out of the body of evidence available and act as if it’s the only factor. And you give an emotional argument rather than looking at the body of evidence and using logic to determine its merit. If you’d like to dig into the evidence, it’s here. I did and my conclusion, based on logical analysis, shows overwhelming evidence of fraud: [link to stateofthenation.co] You can choose to do the same, otherwise, this won’t be a logical debate based on the data but a whack-a-mole game against an emotional person who can only appeal with subjective emotion. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ToSeek Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Once again, like a rabid dog you grab onto one piece of evidence out of the body of evidence available and act as if it’s the only factor. And you give an emotional argument rather than looking at the body of evidence and using logic to determine its merit. If you’d like to dig into the evidence, it’s here. I did and my conclusion, based on logical analysis, shows overwhelming evidence of fraud: [link to stateofthenation.co] You can choose to do the same, otherwise, this won’t be a logical debate based on the data but a whack-a-mole game against an emotional person who can only appeal with subjective emotion. . Funny ALL you have is an emotional argument. You make assumptions about numbers, use an incorrect formula that all experts say isn't useful to detect election fraud and then accuse me of arguing with emotion?! I'm sure you honestly don't think you're a stupid hypocrite. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ToSeek Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Once again, like a rabid dog you grab onto one piece of evidence out of the body of evidence available and act as if it’s the only factor. And you give an emotional argument rather than looking at the body of evidence and using logic to determine its merit. If you’d like to dig into the evidence, it’s here. I did and my conclusion, based on logical analysis, shows overwhelming evidence of fraud: [link to stateofthenation.co] You can choose to do the same, otherwise, this won’t be a logical debate based on the data but a whack-a-mole game against an emotional person who can only appeal with subjective emotion. . [link to jengolbeck.medium.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 01/05/2021 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. [link to stateofthenation.co] The data was taken directly from the State of Pennsylvania’s servers. But let’s do an easy one. In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. If you want to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races, you are at risk of people taking severe advantage of you. You think because the cheating went your way that it’s okay. I can think of no other reason (other than being bad at math) that one would deny the overwhelming evidence. But if these people will cheat and blackmail others to get power, what won’t they do...to you? No matter how much you’re paid, you aren’t part of their club and are expendable. . Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . It's not shifting the burden of proof. You haven't adequately shown that there was fraud. I have to prove there wasn't fraud?! That would be me trying to prove a negative! You have NOT provided evidence of voter fraud. You have provided a claim that based on your interpretation and numbers you pulled if right wing sites that you believe fraud occurred. I have not asked you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to provide evidence. So far, all you give is opinion. I know you know better but for those reading, logical debate works like this: -The natural state is no fraud. -The positive assertion is there is fraud. -The debate begins when the evidence I present is refuted. This is what you claim the “mathematicians all over the Internet” are doing. (But you seem incapable of.) I know you haven’t read the evidence presented that is based on the disputed states’ data because you haven’t even tried to refute said evidence like your “mathematicians on the Internet”. Instead you pretend that a logical fallacy is valid and that mathematics are opinion. You are counting on people being dumb and not understanding what you’re doing. Now, please go talk to your CCP Commander and ask for reassignment before he pushes that honor button. This is just too much for you, you’re out of your league. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79342782 United States 01/05/2021 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Your written English is pretty good for a native Chinese speaker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79342782 United States 01/05/2021 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348469 We can start with the violation of Benford’s Law, which says that that in naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. This means the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. The law also applies to the second and third digits, etc. When analysts ran the Biden and Trump data using Benford’s law on the second digit in Allegheny county, PA, Biden’s numbers had SIGNIFICANT deviations. If you don’t understand statistics, you will dismiss this. But it’s just one example of the many statistical impossibilities present in the election. Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Your written English is pretty good for a native Chinese speaker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ToSeek Real statisticians understand that election results don't necessarily follow Benford's Law because they're not random numbers - precincts are of a certain size, for one thing: If his claim about precinct size were correct and he was intellectually honest, he would have to ask why Trump’s distribution didn’t follow the same pattern as Biden’s. He goes through a lot of machinations to make the analysis showing fraud look invalid to the uneducated, it’s not even a good attempt. But at 10:49 in he does say: “You cannot use only Benford’s Law to look for fraud in elections.” If only there wasn’t plenty of easily available evidence of the mathematical impossibilities, of which Benford’s law is only one. But I’ll again state an easy example for the non-mathematically inclined: In Michigan, Biden got over 60,000 more ballots (with no down-ballot votes) than Obama did in 2008. No down-ballot votes means the ballot only had Biden marked on the ballot. Your choice is to believe that Biden inspired more people than Obama and that there were 60k voters who didn’t bother to vote in congressional or senate races...or on any issues. There are those who choose to turn a blind eye, there are those who just don’t have the intelligence to understand easy mathematics, then there are those who try to deceive others because they have an evil agenda. . So what if Biden got 60,000 more votes than Obama! A lot of people are sick of Trump, and came out to vote! I know plenty of right wingers who had enough! You act as if there couldn't possibly be that many people who voted to remove Trump. You haven't adequately shown that! Trump is a national embarassment and more people understood this in 2020 than understood it in 2016! Trump has ALWAYS been an embarassment in the north east....its good to know that more people, in other parts of the country, understand that now! Your written English is pretty good for a native Chinese speaker And yours isn't bad for a redneck traitor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77382331 United States 01/05/2021 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 Ok, and all over the internet math experts say it's bullshit. I have asked you to tell me how they are wrong! Funny how you avoid that part. There is no cheating from the left. There is just typical right-wing false witness. My God, they really aren’t sending their best, or perhaps this is just the best they have. You’re using the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy because it puts the burden of proof on the negative instead of the affirmative. Nobody has the burden to prove a negative in a debate, instead the onus is on the person making the positive assertion, because without evidence the negative assertion is the natural state. I provided evidence of voter fraud...evidence for a positive assertion. You have provided no evidence to refute my assertion. Instead, you asked me to prove a negative, which isn’t even possible. Nice try, but we’re not as dumb as the script you’re reading from. I’ve shown you the evidence for fraud, if you would like to refute it in a way that is plausible then please do so. But if you don’t understand the basic premises, you’ll never understand any argument against them. And your bullishit logical fallacies are no substitute for a real debate. Careful, your commander might activate that device in your helmet to save your honor. . It's not shifting the burden of proof. You haven't adequately shown that there was fraud. I have to prove there wasn't fraud?! That would be me trying to prove a negative! You have NOT provided evidence of voter fraud. You have provided a claim that based on your interpretation and numbers you pulled if right wing sites that you believe fraud occurred. I have not asked you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to provide evidence. So far, all you give is opinion. I know you know better but for those reading, logical debate works like this: -The natural state is no fraud. -The positive assertion is there is fraud. -The debate begins when the evidence I present is refuted. This is what you claim the “mathematicians all over the Internet” are doing. (But you seem incapable of.) I know you haven’t read the evidence presented that is based on the disputed states’ data because you haven’t even tried to refute said evidence like your “mathematicians on the Internet”. Instead you pretend that a logical fallacy is valid and that mathematics are opinion. You are counting on people being dumb and not understanding what you’re doing. Now, please go talk to your CCP Commander and ask for reassignment before he pushes that honor button. This is just too much for you, you’re out of your league. . I know you want your claims and beliefs to be true. Sadly, that's all they are. I never said there was no fraud, I distinctly remember using the word "eidespread" at the beginning of this conversation. I do not believe there was enough fraud to take a second term away from Trump. I have posted an article from an expert that explains when Benford’s law can't be used and you ignore it in favor of your emotional beliefs, as usual. Now, please go back to your trailer and shut the fuck up, stupid. |
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User ID: 66211107 United States 01/05/2021 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 As opposed to the party of perpetual cheaters? I can handle the feigned insult... Nope That's just the paranoid crybaby in you, again... "You cheated! BOO-HOO!" Pathetic. You are SO cute when you try to be witty, butt.... YOU.SHOULD.TRY.HARDER. "Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'" — Brian Tracy: Personal and business training author, speaker, and consultant "We are all, right now, living the life we choose." -- Peter McWilliams, Author "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." -- Michael Altshuler |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78308491 United States 01/05/2021 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 As opposed to the party of perpetual cheaters? I can handle the feigned insult... Nope That's just the paranoid crybaby in you, again... "You cheated! BOO-HOO!" Pathetic. You are SO cute when you try to be witty, butt.... YOU.SHOULD.TRY.HARDER. Same to you... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77724013 United States 01/05/2021 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Republican party will forever be known as the party of paranoid crybabies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77382331 And the left is led by demonic baby eaters. Fact! With a zero sense of humor, and no imagination whatsoever. Just a mass of proud psychos that think their poop doesn’t stink. May they die, and leave others to lead that have hearts and souls. Not bought out by China. "Sense of humor"?! Is that how you justify your false witness against others? That's disgusting. |