$15 per hour Minimum Wage: most efficient and effective way to re-distribute the wealth. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80074593 Iceland 02/28/2021 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $15 per hour will be a total mess. Quoting: Soundman As I see it, lets take as an example a minority no college fast food worker. She works at McD's for $8 an hour perhaps 15 to 20 hours per week. Not full time as the company would then be required to offer benefits; Cant have that as its not 1950 any more... As a single mother with 2.3 kids she gets a average over $500+ a month food stamps based on her low income. The lower the income the more food stamps you get. She and her children are 100% fully covered under State Medicare, She pays zero co/pay for her children and her co/pay If she has one is under $3 per doctor visit, all based on her low income... She lives in a section 8 house / apartment based on her low income. She may have a live in boyfriend that may help pay for something ( perhaps a cell bill ) if the free Obama phone is not good enough. She now will get the new $15 an hour but now she makes to much money to qualify for the section 8, medicaid and food stamps. This McD's worker will be begging for her $8 back or will drop out of the work force all together. McD's will go full AI automated kiosk and if you want a burger you order with a app using your $1,200 iPhone no $15 an hour employee required. Or, perhaps the new recent college grads with $50K in student loans will now be the ones taking your McRib order and collecting that $15 per hour living in mom and dads basement with the only goal in life is to make sure mom don't smell that now legal NJ weed.... Looking on the bright side... That $15 per hour in the long run will do one thing for ME as I see it. Be it a college grad or a robot my McRib may then actually make it inside the bag as I drive away from the window. Every time I get home something is always missing from my McD's order. Im fine with $15 an hour as long as my McRib is in the bag when I get home... College girls are getting $400 an hour. i guess they've got good agents like the movie stars and sports players. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79808403 United States 02/28/2021 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $15 per hour Minimum Wage is the most efficient and Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79481126 effective way to re-distribute the wealth. . Nah, Ill just fire some of my employees that aren't worth 15 an hour. The labor budget is the budget, its set in stone. But, the work around is just having fewer workers do more work, so that $15 per hour is fair to the company. The 15 per hour plan will just cut out the slackers and the weak employees. Back to the breadline for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72545961 United States 02/28/2021 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting rid of fiat currency and back on the gold standard is the most efficient road back to wealth. Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram Absolutely. Fiat-currency or fiat-created .. 'money' .. is nothing but an endless enslavement to its creators. Eventually one family or one entity owns everything (physically worth owning) on the planet, because everyone else will be indebted to that (lending) entity/person/family. Which was why fiat was likely created and used in the first place. Robbery via inflated currency. you mean the Rothchilds? and when i was younger i thought that a single family couldn't create and profit from wars No offense, but how wrong that idea was/is. Wars are VERY VERY PROFITABLE to its lending benefactors. Need money? Create a war and lend beaucoup dinero to both sides. Problem solved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80074593 Iceland 02/28/2021 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $15 per hour Minimum Wage is the most efficient and Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79481126 effective way to re-distribute the wealth. . Nah, Ill just fire some of my employees that aren't worth 15 an hour. The labor budget is the budget, its set in stone. But, the work around is just having fewer workers do more work, so that $15 per hour is fair to the company. The 15 per hour plan will just cut out the slackers and the weak employees. Back to the breadline for them. There was a War going on between 1880 and 1960, in the U.S., between Labor and Management. You should read about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80096368 United States 02/28/2021 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you a fucking retard Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79795231 the largest businesses will pass untouched while the small and medium businesses will die, be shut down and closed permanently because they won't be able to pay the salaries to their workers while the elites will be buying them for pennies on the dollar so tell me exactly how is a minimum wage a wealth redistribution when the usual suspects and the TPTB will the only ones be profiting FFS Exactly, it will destroy small and medium sized businesses. And prices will rise and that $15 will get eaten up with increased prices before you know it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79565603 United States 02/28/2021 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $20.00 Big Macs and $6.00 gallon of gas will be the new norm because the communists are trying to bankrupt the country and try to get rich doing it. I have been stocking up on things and plan to do some bartering. |
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Let Freedom Ring 365
User ID: 79461609 United States 02/28/2021 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting rid of fiat currency and back on the gold standard is the most efficient road back to wealth. Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States 02/28/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78687776 That just sounds like some Paki store owner raised prices and blamed it on the minimum wage increase. Lol Then why don't we raise the rate to $50 per hour? 100? great idea!!! if you don't mind paying 85 bucks for a burger Some idiot up a few pages talked about "Govt. imposed"price controls"being necessary: Well Moran; If Milk costs $10.00 a gallon to bottle becaus every swinging dick in the plant is getting $15.00... And the SOCIALIST Govt. "Price board" comes down and proclaims:"ALL MILK SHALL COST $2.35 A GALLON! (at the store). The plant will (HAS TO) shutdown. No milk will be bottled and no one will have jobs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79920157 United States 02/28/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More money chasing the same quantity of goods and services means inflation. Everything, food, utilities, rent (yes, rent) will go up in the neighborhood of 20%, in a few weeks! By the end of this year those essentials will be at least 30%! But then if the minimum wage was raised 50%, we're actually still ahead, right? Wait for next year. Prices will keep going up to match the rise in salaries. The French did the same thing to their wages in the late 1700's. Everybody, the people the nobility and the monarch, thought their money troubles were over. The outcome of meddling with the free market contributed to the French Revolution. |
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Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 02/28/2021 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why has this topic already been unpinned? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79897232 it hasn't been up neither for 5 hours come on moderators I dunno...I can repine it....I think. Not sure of the limits on repines...we shall see. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 02/28/2021 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meh...seems I have to wait 6 hours...BS...it's the Sunday-Funday pinata thread while awaiting Trump to show up late again! If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 02/28/2021 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eeveryone just go the page one and hit the green pine pin. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 152686 United States 02/28/2021 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why has this topic already been unpinned? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79897232 it hasn't been up neither for 5 hours come on moderators I dunno...I can repine it....I think. Not sure of the limits on repines...we shall see. no worries Lance, you shouldn't be re-pinning it, you're too good person btw, it's a shame that admins are so quickly taking down the threads that are publicly active and interesting, you don't and shouldn't need to need karma points twice in the day for the same topic |
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Soundman
User ID: 40546062 United States 02/28/2021 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you a fucking retard Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79795231 the largest businesses will pass untouched while the small and medium businesses will die, be shut down and closed permanently because they won't be able to pay the salaries to their workers while the elites will be buying them for pennies on the dollar so tell me exactly how is a minimum wage a wealth redistribution when the usual suspects and the TPTB will the only ones be profiting FFS If a business can't afford to pay a living wage to it's workers it was going to shut down eventually anyway or it would have eeked along being a nonfactor in the economy. Insulating everyone from every possible bad outcpme isn't how a society moves forward. Besides, these minimum wage hikes take effect over about a decade. It's not $7.25 today and $15 tomorrow. Any business that cannot adapt over that period of time frankly isn't worth the effort and isn't doing anyone much good, even it's owner. I disagree, in the USA we have entry level jobs and boy I was thankful for them when I was in high school earning a few $ just to have enough to take my girlfriend out on Friday night. Who wants or expects a living wage flipping burgers at McD's or scooping ice cream. Our teens needed a entry level job in the 50's ( think the drive-in waitress on skates) and those teens need entry jobs now. Lets face it, If my teen daughter made a "living" wage now what reason would she have to better herself and go to school? We need young people jobs, I can't help the non educated OR non motivated or motivated to actually make little money so you get the free Medicaid, food stamps, section 8 etc also go after those made for teens jobs. If the minimum wage does go up to $15 it still will not be a living wage as the hours will be cut to nothing... You are always going to have high school kids that need a summer job, thats never going to pay much and why should it? Last Edited by Soundman on 02/28/2021 04:17 PM Soundman |
We Who Watch.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 152686 United States 02/28/2021 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you a fucking retard Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79795231 the largest businesses will pass untouched while the small and medium businesses will die, be shut down and closed permanently because they won't be able to pay the salaries to their workers while the elites will be buying them for pennies on the dollar so tell me exactly how is a minimum wage a wealth redistribution when the usual suspects and the TPTB will the only ones be profiting FFS If a business can't afford to pay a living wage to it's workers it was going to shut down eventually anyway or it would have eeked along being a nonfactor in the economy. Insulating everyone from every possible bad outcpme isn't how a society moves forward. Besides, these minimum wage hikes take effect over about a decade. It's not $7.25 today and $15 tomorrow. Any business that cannot adapt over that period of time frankly isn't worth the effort and isn't doing anyone much good, even it's owner. I disagree, in the USA we have entry level jobs and boy I was thankful for them when I was in high school earning a few $ just to have enough to take my girlfriend out on Friday night. Who wants or expects a living wage flipping burgers at McD's or scooping ice cream. Our teens needed a entry level job in the 50's ( think the drive-in waitress on skates) and those teens need entry jobs now. Lets face it, If my teen daughter made a "living" wage now what reason would she have to better herself and go to school? We need young people jobs, I can't help the non educated OR non motivated or motivated to actually make little money so you get the free Medicaid, food stamps, section 8 etc also go after those made for teens jobs. If the minimum wage does go up to $15 it still will not be a living wage as the hours will be cut to nothing... You are always going to have high school kids that need a summer job, thats never going to pay much and why should it? |
Windsage
User ID: 79526427 United States 02/28/2021 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $15 per hour Minimum Wage is the most efficient and Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79481126 effective way to re-distribute the wealth. . The wealthy will never re-distribute their wealth. If you double minimum wage they will just charge double to consumers to make up for it. That's where Socialist "Wage and Price Controls" come into play. . Tell me how many socialist countries are successful. Human nature and big government combine to create a thousand headed hydra of misery and corruption. "Socialism is about one thing only, power for the ruling class."- Donald Trump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79923245 United States 02/28/2021 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As someone who is struggling to work though all this madness in the resturant industry... I can tell you I'd rather see people make $15 dollars an hour for working than the people I see all around me deciding to stay home, and get unemployment because "they get more for doing nothing"... Everyone seems to keep complaining about $15 dollars an hour... but isn't it better than paying people who could work to stay home? Seems to me that yes there would be some inflation, but it would eventually balance out... and the people who are kick ass workers, and know how to multi task could replace all these so-so workers... and employers would not have to hire 2-3 inefficant workers to replace the really efficent ones... so it would eventually balance... for the good... not that there wouldn't be some bad before the good becomes obvious. Plus... only the smart small bussiness owners could survives this eliminating bad employers... who hold their employees back with bad bussiness moves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80097287 Iceland 02/28/2021 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It won't even be in the bill. Even without it all the Repubs and two Dems will vote against the bill. Expect this through the entire Biden Admin. The times they are a changin' and the end is not pretty. Quoting: Nothman 71178017 It's gonna be a Battle Royale. Just remember, these a Commies yer dealing with. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65942580 United States 02/28/2021 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>The wealthy will never re-distribute their wealth. If you double minimum wage they will just charge double to consumers to make up for it.<< It's not that simple. They can raise prices. They can't make people pay it. |
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