CDC finally admits that the masks do nothing to stop covid. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56026143 United States 03/08/2021 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CDC: 2 Face Masks Protect Better Than One Quoting: legionaire49 How to upgrade your mask to protect against the coronavirus by Michelle Crouch, AARP, Updated February 11, 2021 So who's lying? One doesn't protect but two help, or three, or a bag tied tightly around neck. What is that study? Since after one year there is still an N95 mask shortage my RN working family members wear two masks to extend the life of their N95. The N95 Electrostatic Core which is "the" feature that makes it successful 95% of the time is prone to failure when moisture contaminated. Either from your exhaled breath or droplet contamination on the outside. Their procedure which has been in place a long time is to cover their N95 with a single surgery mask they dispose of when moving from patient to patient. Does it work? Dont know... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79831702 United States 03/08/2021 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During the study period, states allowed restaurants to reopen for on-premises dining in 3,076 (97.9%) U.S. counties. Changes in daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates were not statistically significant 1–20 and 21–40 days after restrictions were lifted. Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 0.9 (p = 0.02), 1.2 (p<0.01), and 1.1 (p = 0.04) percentage point increases in the case growth rate 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (Table 2) (Figure). Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 2.2 and 3.0 percentage point increases in the death growth rate 61–80 and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (p<0.01 for both). Daily death growth rates before restrictions were lifted were not statistically different from those during the reference period, whereas significant differences in daily case growth rates were observed 41–60 days before restrictions were lifted |
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Vision Thing
User ID: 79467363 United States 03/08/2021 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The ultimate lesson is that science isn’t special - at least not anymore, maybe back when Eientein talked to Niels Bohr, and there were only a few dozen important workers in every field. But there are now three million researhers in America. Its no longer a calling, it’s a career. Science is as a coruptable human activity as any other. Its practitioners aren’t saints, they’re human beings, and they do what human beings do-lie, cheat, steal from one another, sue, hide data,fake data, over state their own importance, and denigrate opposing views unfairly. That’s human nature. It isn’t going to dhange.” Next, Michael Crichton P. 62 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79376772 I work with a guy who honestly regards scientists as some kind of pure sainted priesthood. I think it's transference - people naturally have instinctive religious feelings and it's easy to get them to diefy false gods. |
Vision Thing
User ID: 79467363 United States 03/08/2021 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw 2 different families yesterday walking outdoors with masks on their very young toddlers, and older children 5 or 6 years old. Honestly it's only going to get worse. There's a reason I don't want to go out at all unless I have to, and it's nothing to do with the supposed virus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80101978 Egypt 03/08/2021 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A real news source would be nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79582374 Anyways why do doctors wear them? You would be fine with a doctor performing surgery on you without one them I take it? Drs don't wear them as a rule, surgeons do. During surgery bacterial infection is a huge risk and so surgeons and nurses all wear masks to stop bacteria from them entering an open wound. Surgical masks are excellent at stopping bacteria because compared to a virus bacteria are massive. The studies done on Surgeons wearing masks versus not wearing during surgery found no effect on bacterial infections. But people think they work and get into a habit. |
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Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The CDC is funded by government appropriations. So anything they say will be partial truth, with enough homage paid to the popular opinion or propaganda of the day to maintain their funding. Everyone likes money it seems. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 03/08/2021 10:38 AM Justme |
Praetor of Olea
User ID: 80001690 United States 03/08/2021 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not related to the topic, but, Justme C'est Moi, I gave you thumbs down karma because I'm an idiot who can't read but I'll make it up to you next week with a thumbs up. Can't figure out how to remove karma. Dave Talbott Wal Thornhill Comparative mythology is the key to understanding all of history. |
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Herr Decider
User ID: 80121332 United States 03/08/2021 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not related to the topic, but, Justme C'est Moi, I gave you thumbs down karma because I'm an idiot who can't read but I'll make it up to you next week with a thumbs up. Can't figure out how to remove karma. Quoting: Praetor of Olea you need to save up 25 green karma points and then you can remove a red karma from a "friend". Augmented by Grace |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78242537 United States 03/08/2021 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A real news source would be nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79582374 Anyways why do doctors wear them? You would be fine with a doctor performing surgery on you without one them I take it? They link to the CDC study. How much more of a "real source" do you need? Do you only believe NY Times anonymous sources with no links to data? Also, how many people do you see performing surgery out in public? |
Cnevermore
User ID: 78196414 United States 03/08/2021 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you read the CDC link or did you just vomit back what OANN spit out. The CDC study says masks help slow the spread and reduced infection rates. It doesn't say anywhere in the entire study anything about masks doing nothing to stop covid. In fact, it says the complete opposite. "Community mitigation measures can help reduce the transmission of SARS-CoV-2. In this study, mask mandates were associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days, whereas allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with increases in COVID-19 case and death growth rates after 40 days. With the emergence of more transmissible COVID-19 variants, community mitigation measures are increasingly important as part of a larger strategy to decrease exposure to and reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (3,4). Community mitigation policies, such as state-issued mask mandates and prohibition of on-premises restaurant dining, have the potential to slow the spread of COVID-19, especially if implemented with other public health strategies (1,10)." At least read the study before you post crap. Cnevermore |
Elegant Walnut
User ID: 75567814 Canada 03/08/2021 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It limits viral load. Both the spreading and the absorption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80118498 The reason why Chinese doctors were dropping like flies is because of high viral load, due to poor air circulation and over exposure. Have a anti-masker friend that is in the medical field. When I explained that logic to him, that it reduces the number of pesky buggers that get into your body, giving your immune system a fighting chance, and the way the virus damages the body, he purged all anti mask rhetoric from his social media. That seems sensible in theory, the problem is it's not true in practice. This has been studied and studied, in clinical and general public settings, before and during covid. The best designed studies show there is no statistically significant difference in rates of infection between mask wearing and not. Last Edited by Elegant Walnut on 03/08/2021 11:07 AM |
Philly Special
User ID: 48696927 United States 03/08/2021 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study literally says the exact OPPOSITE of what this headline is.. it's like these people just made up whatever lie they wanted to and wrote it above the study for clickbait, the study says that masks DO slow the Transmission of covid-19... not by preventing people from getting it but from helping prevent people with it from SPREADING it.. the masks NEVER were a deterrent from you getting infected by others it's a deterrent from you SPREADING it.. the studies have ALWAYS said this and you still ALWAYS get it wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77412172 Again, look to the Ebola real world experience of just a few years ago. They wore masks like crazy over there, and they were dropping like flies. The disease had a 35% kill rate, so it was real damn easy to see the results. I am not going to wear a mask to protect YOU. If you want to protect yourself, buy a proper respirator as I described above, or take Ivermectin routinely, or risk your life with one of the new vaccines. I don't care which, but I have no obligation to wear a mask to allay your fears. Which brings up the legal remit of government or lack thereof. Natural rights, (the right to move about freely, to defend yourself, to eat and drink, to look for food and water, to breathe, to sweat, to urinate, to defecate, are the very basis of law. Inalienable rights. Conferred by god or whatever force hatched your dumb ass into existence. Government has no authority to infringe upon natural rights. I have the effing right to breathe! I read that lots of vitamin c was helping with Ebola. Same with other viruses and infections. Your body can fight things off. The one "advantage" of Ebola is that it presents severe symptoms fairly quick, and kills the host fairly quick as well. Any epidemic or pandemic of Ebola burns itself out before it really starts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6176722 United States 03/08/2021 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you read the CDC link or did you just vomit back what OANN spit out. The CDC study says masks help slow the spread and reduced infection rates. It doesn't say anywhere in the entire study anything about masks doing nothing to stop covid. In fact, it says the complete opposite. "Community mitigation measures can help reduce the transmission of SARS-CoV-2. In this study, mask mandates were associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days, whereas allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with increases in COVID-19 case and death growth rates after 40 days. With the emergence of more transmissible COVID-19 variants, community mitigation measures are increasingly important as part of a larger strategy to decrease exposure to and reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (3,4). Community mitigation policies, such as state-issued mask mandates and prohibition of on-premises restaurant dining, have the potential to slow the spread of COVID-19, especially if implemented with other public health strategies (1,10)." At least read the study before you post crap. All you have to do is compare states with lockdown and mask mandates with those who do not. There is very little difference and in some cases the hard core mask and lockdowns states had more deaths and hospitalizations. |
PRESIDENT ELECT HARD LUCK
User ID: 1891341 United States 03/08/2021 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I would like to be compensated, because for the last 14 months I have told people that wearing a simple mask would do nothing to protect them, and had to endure their accusations, hostility, etc. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Why, you would think I was a baby murdering, grandma raping, racist, Hitler or something, just for giving them some scientific advice. Or they would have thought your Grandma Sanger advocated putting non-master race people into mass graves while blowing Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, Hitler, J.D. Rockefeller and David O. Selznick and of course assorted Popes ....and any other evil plan she could embrace.... If you were that fucked up....they'd be crawling over broken mason jars to hear your wisdom.....fucked up ain't it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3569297 United States 03/08/2021 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet most everyone here at one time or another asked/told a person/coworker nearby who was not covering their mouth when they coughed or sneezed repeatedly to do so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56026143 I m guessing your mommmy did. grin Same concept / same reason. Well if it's the same concept then why the mask? Just cover your mouth if you cough like normal. You mask tards are a thick bunch to say the least. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80115680 United States 03/08/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't the point of the mask mandate to appease Allah? [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] |
American Poet
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Herr Decider
User ID: 80121332 United States 03/08/2021 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It limits viral load. Both the spreading and the absorption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80118498 The reason why Chinese doctors were dropping like flies is because of high viral load, due to poor air circulation and over exposure. Have a anti-masker friend that is in the medical field. When I explained that logic to him, that it reduces the number of pesky buggers that get into your body, giving your immune system a fighting chance, and the way the virus damages the body, he purged all anti mask rhetoric from his social media. That seems sensible in theory, the problem is it's not true in practice. This has been studied and studied, in clinical and general public settings, before and during covid. The best designed studies show there is no statistically significant difference in rates of infection between mask wearing and not. I remember your thread a year ago on this subject which cited the thorough meta analysis by Denis Rancourt. Thread: MASKS DON'T WORK: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 Augmented by Grace |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80121647 United Kingdom 03/08/2021 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what a load of crap. masks have been shown to slow the spread. If people wore them right that 1.5% would be even higher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79241268 your paranoia and obsession with safety is not my responsibility. go live in isolation, wearing full body armour if you wish, but please STFU with telling me your irrational fear supercedes my freedom as an individual. IT DOESN'T. |
Herr Decider
User ID: 80121332 United States 03/08/2021 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps, but it does have a placebo effect on many people reducing their anxiety about being out in public. So suck on it! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35934039 https://imgur.com/lFuIKtu Augmented by Grace |
Patriot_In_Waiting
User ID: 71796270 United States 03/08/2021 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Fauci, But 4 even 5 are better oh and don’t forget the neck pantyhose to stop side blow. Just like condoms, if one doesn’t work....then use 4, that’ll do it! Must be new medicine, common core style LOL. Last Edited by Patriot_In_Waiting on 03/08/2021 11:46 AM Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
Elegant Walnut
User ID: 75567814 Canada 03/08/2021 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welders wear PAPRs to protect against welding fumes. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi I can't fathom the logic that says give an infection disease doctor a 30 cent paper mask to wear for protection, and a $1000 PAPR to a welder. They all need the right protection. Just in dollar terms, what does it cost to train a doctor to the level that these front line doctors need to be useful? A million dollars or more easily! And nobody wants to spend a thousand dollars to keep them alive? Then they fall ill and rack up a hundred thousand dollar medical bill on top of that? When the mask rhetoric started ramping up this past spring, my husband was incredulous. He's in an occupation that deals with silica dust, which is .05 microns. Covid is about .1 microns. He needs specialized PPE. fit tested. Poor dh had to shave his handsome beard for that fit test. Our neighbour, a firefighter, also has PPE and he too was incredulous about any so-called benefits for wearing masks. Masks stop the droplets, maybe. But does that translate into reduced hospital admissions and death rates in the general public? I very much doubt it. Theoretically, someone should then choose to wear a mask on their own and it would provide some protection on the receiving end. Not everyone should be forced to wear for others, because there are other negative factors associated with mask wearing that must be factored in to the equation. I bet weight loss programs, supports and initiatives would result in fewer hospital admissions and deaths. Where is huge public push for that? There is little to nil. Something is profusely rotten in the state of Denmark. |
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