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Justme C'est Moi
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Elegant Walnut
User ID: 75567814 Canada 03/08/2021 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That seems sensible in theory, the problem is it's not true Quoting: Herr Decider I remember your thread a year ago on this subject which cited the thorough meta analysis by Denis Rancourt. Thread: MASKS DON'T WORK: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 Yes, and Rancourt received a lot of heat for that analysis. The truth hurts. His paper was removed from Research Gate, so I had to post an updated link to his work. Last Edited by Elegant Walnut on 03/08/2021 11:55 AM |
Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet most everyone here at one time or another asked/told a person/coworker nearby who was not covering their mouth when they coughed or sneezed repeatedly to do so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56026143 I m guessing your mommmy did. grin Same concept / same reason. Actually, in my day, Mommies would take their kids to the home of a sick kid, so that they would gain immunity. Pox party. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Get chickenpox as a kid and you barely notice it. Get it as an adult and there is a good chance it will kill you. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 03/08/2021 11:56 AM Justme |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 03/08/2021 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " |
Justme C'est Moi
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 03/08/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " Which means the title of this thread is not actually what the study stated, and the article on OANN also isnt what the study stated. Does no one actually read the studies? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80121580 03/08/2021 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet CDC is saying vaccinated people still needs to wear masks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80121580 What gives???? Because it doesn’t make you immune. You can get the virus and give it. It is just supposed to make the symptoms less severe when a person gets sick. So I guess at this point, CDC can say anything no matter how twisted and millions would comply. I mean, they said mask useless to general public in the beginning, now masks needed even with rushed to market cure all. I'm baffled. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79272240 United States 03/08/2021 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The people who got tickets for not wearing their masks should sue the CDC and the police. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104741 How about the families of the half million people that died because of their crap advice? If they wore a 3M silicone mask with P-100s or if they took Ivermectin, they would most likely still be alive. Dude there’s no virus. It’s a fraud. |
Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Tyranny of the Majority. A term we should all be familiar with. [link to edsitement.neh.gov (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Justme |
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Elegant Walnut
User ID: 75567814 Canada 03/08/2021 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " Which means the title of this thread is not actually what the study stated, and the article on OANN also isnt what the study stated. Does no one actually read the studies? Is it just me or were the results statistically insignificant? The news media is just parroting the verbiage used by the CDC. The CDC just says significant because that fits the narrative. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80069009 United States 03/08/2021 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I visited a very popular Texas brand grocery store last night in the North Houston outer limits suburbs (not even in Harris County). At approx. 8pm the store was still very much busy with customers and store staff were abundant at this large location. My wife and I consciously made the choice to go in and shop for roughly and hour, maskless. EVERY single customer and employee were still very much masked. Didn't even see one young buck country Jethro going maskless, despite Governor Abbott's EO to end the shenanigans officially this coming Wednesday, March 10th. Though going maskless for months in our rural Texas community north of Houston where everyone else pretty much shared our same viewpoint during the "pandemic," my wife and I were clearly both frontier people in a strange dystopian suburb groupthink situation at this store we stopped at on the way home from a family event on the other side of Houston. It was both liberating to know we were so outnumbered, but also, just plain sad... especially being in both America and Texas of all places, witnessing this nonsense. As if 2 extra days before an EO legally takes effect will be magical to everyone's perceived wellness before they step out into the sunlight because a piece of paper says so. People were even still sadly loading their groceries into their cars, all alone, outside and dozens of feet from one another... with their masks on. On a good note, the staff of this establishment didn't say a word to us and were still very helpful and even struck up conversations with us about things we were buying, how our day was, etc. I wrongfully assumed it would be one of them who reminded us the masks were still a thing for two days, namely due to their adhering to corporate overlord policy enforcement. On a bad note, we were still getting dirty looks from individual customers who were either on the cusp of Karening us, or just jealous we weren't subservient like them. One guy even clearly avoided going down the same aisle with us. My wife just happens to be a drop dead gorgeous woman- so we benefited from most people just being naturally nervous to strike up conversation or conflict with her (us), which is just my experience observing people when in her gravitational pull, despite her also being one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Had I been alone, however, I'm certain one of the Karens in there would have spoken up... you could just sense it in the air. |
LuxMcAlba
User ID: 33269531 United States 03/08/2021 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22180535 I was wondering if any posters were going to read the OANN link to the CDC. Still, lots of weasel language from the CDC once you do read it. My opinion: masks help very slightly at best, not worth the negative side effects on society. Lux |
~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 03/08/2021 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet CDC is saying vaccinated people still needs to wear masks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80121580 What gives???? Oh no, look what they are saying today They can’t get people to take the vaxx so here come the freedoms you’ll get if you vaxx New headline today Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says “We know that people want to get vaccinated so they can get back to doing the things they enjoy with the people they love,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, in a statement. [link to www.clickondetroit.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Snake User ID: 76946475 United States 03/08/2021 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still didn't read that in the original article. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79747365 Maybe you can point to what you're talking about? The OP didn't either. The subject of this thread is unequivocally untrue. The article talks about masks in the context of restaurants. Anyone looking as far as the simple graphic on the article would know that. |
Reality420
User ID: 49477262 United States 03/08/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " Yup. OANN are either huge, blatant liars or they are completely illiterate and innumerate... or both. Lying fake news for the gullible morans again! But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " Which means the title of this thread is not actually what the study stated, and the article on OANN also isnt what the study stated. Does no one actually read the studies? Actually read and check the accuracy of the sources? Here at GLP? Hahaha! You've got to be kidding me. This is lying, ignorant gossip and rumor central. Did nobody bother to notice that this article is in the context of masks in restaurants, and not broadly about masks in general? Do any of you even read? Quoting: Snake 76946475 No. Nobody bothered. This is GLP. But the link to the study in the article states that masks did stop COVID. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "Mask mandates were associated with statistically significant decreases in county-level daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation. Allowing on-premises restaurant dining was associated with increases in county-level case and death growth rates within 41–80 days after reopening. State mask mandates and prohibiting on-premises dining at restaurants help limit potential exposure to SARS-CoV-2, reducing community transmission of COVID-19. Studies have confirmed the effectiveness of community mitigation measures in reducing the prevalence of COVID-19 (5–8). Mask mandates are associated with reductions in COVID-19 case and hospitalization growth rates (6,7), whereas reopening on-premises dining at restaurants, a known risk factor associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection (2), is associated with increased COVID-19 cases and deaths, particularly in the absence of mask mandates (8). " Which means the title of this thread is not actually what the study stated, and the article on OANN also isnt what the study stated. Does no one actually read the studies? Is it just me or were the results statistically insignificant? The news media is just parroting the verbiage used by the CDC. The CDC just says significant because that fits the narrative. It's just you. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "P-values <0.05 were considered statistically significant." Gee, look at all the p values at <0.01, 0.02, 0.03, 0.04. OANN blatantly lying again. How much blatant lying does it take for you guys to stop going to a disinfo source? These guys at OANN despise their readers and hold them in so much contempt they think they are too stupid to actually read and check if what they say is what their source actually says... And a bunch of are too stupid to check... as witnessed by this thread. I can't wait for some lying alt-med crackpot like Merde-ola or Mike Gnatural Gnus or James Lying Weiler to "analyse" this research. I want to see them explain to their marks what the researchers mean by: "The daily growth rate was defined as the difference between the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on a given day and the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on the previous day, multiplied by 100." It seems the % change is a change in the log of the difference which makes a small %age change = a large absolute change... But OANN, who cannot even read, wouldn't know about such advanced math topics - would they? R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. 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Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK all you crazy people. "During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period." from [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] This says wearing of masks did jack shit. Justme |
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47482729 User ID: 78636003 Germany 03/08/2021 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF the CDC would REALLY ADMIT TO ANYTHING - the statement would be Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47482729 CDC finally admits that the masks do nothing to stop THE FLU keep in mind - THEY will come up with the numbers of THE FLU and tell you - WELL - what we see is that THE FLU-NUMBERS ARE WAY DOWN, SO AT LEAST MASKS DO STOP THE FLU! -> which of course THEY WILL USE TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA! AGAIN: BEGIN THE FUCK TO SEE HOW T H E Y THINK! |
Reality420
User ID: 49477262 United States 03/08/2021 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK all you crazy people. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi "During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period." from [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] This says wearing of masks did jack shit. "This says wearing of masks did jack shit." No it doesn't, you innumerate moran. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "The daily growth rate was defined as the difference between the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on a given day and the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on the previous day, multiplied by 100." Considering the %age change is a change in the difference of the natural log of the cumulative cases a small change of 1.6% represents a large proportion of the growth or decrease. . "Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period." Since you also seem to be illiterate what they are saying here is that "before implementation of mask mandates" the daily case growth rate and the daily death growth rate were unchanged. A change in the growth rate or the death rate only occurred after the mandates were implemented... giving strong evidence that the mandates caused the changes in the rates seen. . Sheesh you people are thick! You should not be reading scientific reports or anything about the grade 5 level. R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK all you crazy people. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi "During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period." from [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] This says wearing of masks did jack shit. "This says wearing of masks did jack shit." No it doesn't, you innumerate moran. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] "The daily growth rate was defined as the difference between the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on a given day and the natural log of cumulative cases or deaths on the previous day, multiplied by 100." Considering the %age change is a change in the difference of the natural log of the cumulative cases a small change of 1.6% represents a large proportion of the growth or decrease. . "Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period." Since you also seem to be illiterate what they are saying here is that "before implementation of mask mandates" the daily case growth rate and the daily death growth rate were unchanged. A change in the growth rate or the death rate only occurred after the mandates were implemented... giving strong evidence that the mandates caused the changes in the rates seen. . Sheesh you people are thick! You should not be reading scientific reports or anything about the grade 5 level. R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. Go back to your 420 Mr Innumerate. Justme |
American Poet
User ID: 72706242 United States 03/08/2021 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet CDC is saying vaccinated people still needs to wear masks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80121580 What gives???? Oh no, look what they are saying today They can’t get people to take the vaxx so here come the freedoms you’ll get if you vaxx New headline today Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says “We know that people want to get vaccinated so they can get back to doing the things they enjoy with the people they love,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, in a statement. [link to www.clickondetroit.com (secure)] Lets start in the sublime, shall we? This is PRECISELY where this is heading and I reckon this is the very first “official” message. Gonna be an epic summertime showdown of freedom versus tyranny. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine. |
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