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PLEASE READ / Top virologist warns of massive vaccine catastrophe / it needs to stop!

 
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Isn't a DVM a vet? I'm just trying to track down his credentials, not that I disagree with him.
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I read the letter too, and what really got my attention was the following paragraph:

" 'From all of the above, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to imagine how the consequences of the extensive and erroneous human intervention in this pandemic are not going to wipe out large parts of our human population. One could only think of very few other strategies to achieve the same level of efficiency in turning a relatively harmless virus into a bioweapon of mass destruction.' "

He is clearly predicting an ELE event to take place as a result of the vaccines. If Vanden Bossche was in fact a vaccine developer, and not just a virologist, I would expect that he knows what he is talking about.

And if the vaccines were in fact developed as a population reduction tool, then how would the elites responsible for developing it escape the mutations that vaccines and natural immunity don't prevent?
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I read the letter too, and what really got my attention was the following paragraph:

" 'From all of the above, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to imagine how the consequences of the extensive and erroneous human intervention in this pandemic are not going to wipe out large parts of our human population. One could only think of very few other strategies to achieve the same level of efficiency in turning a relatively harmless virus into a bioweapon of mass destruction.' "

He is clearly predicting an ELE event to take place as a result of the vaccines. If Vanden Bossche was in fact a vaccine developer, and not just a virologist, I would expect that he knows what he is talking about.

And if the vaccines were in fact developed as a population reduction tool, then how would the elites responsible for developing it escape the mutations that vaccines and natural immunity don't prevent?
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I am not throwing shade on this guy, and I have heard him talk and have read his lectures. He seems genuine and truthful. However, I have also seen many cases in the past where credible people are purposely planted to make claims that are later debunked. This is done to discredit all other critics. I am just saying to be careful with such information. This guy would be an ideal patsy.

p.s. Remember Rebekah Roth?
 Quoting: texasdeerslayer


You stayed at home.
You shut your business.
You downloaded track and trace.
You wore a mask.
You got two shots of the 'vaccine'.

You're still in your house, and your business is still closed.

Compliance went well for you.
 Quoting: Deplorable Times


Outstanding case of the message going over your head and smacking the wall. Bravo.
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I see you are the type to Do What You Are Told, And Like It.
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I can see your type by reading your footer at the bottom of your posts. State corporate slave.
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So, if I read this right, it's not the vaccine itself that could cause issues. Rather the vaccine causing, or perpetuating, virus mutations that could be worse than the original.

right? not right?
 Quoting: Maguyver


That’s one side of his argument - you don’t use a vaccine in a pandemic as it will force escape mutations to the point of complete vaccine failure.

The other point is that the artificially produced antibodies will hold back people base immune responses and allow other viruses we would normally expel cause serious illness (not just the variants).
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


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ParamedicUK  (OP)

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Isn't a DVM a vet? I'm just trying to track down his credentials, not that I disagree with him.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Yes initially a vet. Don’t see this as an issue.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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So, if I read this right, it's not the vaccine itself that could cause issues. Rather the vaccine causing, or perpetuating, virus mutations that could be worse than the original.

right? not right?
 Quoting: Maguyver


That’s one side of his argument - you don’t use a vaccine in a pandemic as it will force escape mutations to the point of complete vaccine failure.

The other point is that the artificially produced antibodies will hold back people base immune responses and allow other viruses we would normally expel cause serious illness (not just the variants).
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


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 Quoting: Simple27


And people die of the common human coronaviruses as well as the variants !!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Viral immune escape.

Great, another important sounding term. Meaning the virus mutated such that immunity to the last version does not cover the new version.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


And that the body's natural immune response is hindered in those who have been vaccinated, allowing the newer mutations to invade more easily. Even possibly causing asymptomatic cases of the newer mutations in those who are vaccinated, allowing them to unknowingly shed the shit out of the newer mutations.
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Biography
Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s GH Discovery team as SPO and later on to work with GAVI as Senior Ebola Program Manager; he subsequently joined the German Center for Infection Research as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. Geert is now primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on NK cell-based vaccines. His work is driven by a relentless passion to translate scientific breakthrough findings into competitive vaccine products. As a creative thinker, innovator, entrepreneur and visionary, Geert has been invited to speak at multiple international congresses.

More in here....

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Another virologist about to be suicided.
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Remember...."my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"!
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Not clicking your tweets and not watching your long ass videos. if your going to post stop being a bitch poster and summarize in a short sentence wtf your posting.
 Quoting: led_Dis_Spencer


The link to the paper is clickable in the OP without having to even go to twitter. Here it is. It's only 5 pages.

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Another virologist about to be suicided.
 Quoting: continuity


It’s a worry.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Not clicking your tweets and not watching your long ass videos. if your going to post stop being a bitch poster and summarize in a short sentence wtf your posting.
 Quoting: led_Dis_Spencer


The link to the paper is clickable in the OP without having to even go to twitter. Here it is. It's only 5 pages.

[link to mcusercontent.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Simple27


Thanks
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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And when in a year or two it has become obvious that the "vaccines" are responsible for mass deaths they cannot claim "we did not know". But they will, watch.
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Never
They will blame it on mutations and on people who held out against vaccjnation ( now being labeled as “ Trump supporters”)

I think we can see several moves ahead by now
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So the Mayans were right after all... 2021
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I just don't get the ignorance of people wanting this injection.
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Check this out...Pfizer

2/25/21

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.
 Quoting: _Trey_


Correct. It is currently under a Emergency Use Authorization .... also known as phase 4 trials.

That’s just wording.
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Gene therapy is still experimental amd the intent was for correcting problematic genes, noy manipulating normal genes. Even then it didn't look good. Moderna abandoned mRNA in 2018 because it's too toxic for human use
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If Moderna abandoned mRNA - are you saying they did NOT use it for the vaccine?
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Isn't a DVM a vet? I'm just trying to track down his credentials, not that I disagree with him.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


A well educated person with critical thinking.....

That’s enough.

I would not care if they had a fucking GED. Just learn to question the world around you.
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Check this out...Pfizer

2/25/21

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.
 Quoting: _Trey_


Correct. It is currently under a Emergency Use Authorization .... also known as phase 4 trials.

That’s just wording.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


phase 3 i believe
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I just don't get the ignorance of people wanting this injection.
 Quoting: Tamaralori


It’s not ignorant. It’s just hard for most to see an end without a large intervention.

Normalcy Bias is a pain in the ass.
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Viral immune escape.

Great, another important sounding term. Meaning the virus mutated such that immunity to the last version does not cover the new version.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


And that the body's natural immune response is hindered in those who have been vaccinated, allowing the newer mutations to invade more easily. Even possibly causing asymptomatic cases of the newer mutations in those who are vaccinated, allowing them to unknowingly shed the shit out of the newer mutations.
 Quoting: Simple27


This entire "vaccine" problem boils down to this.

Mother Nature will do anything it takes to finally prove to us that we were misguided to believe that creating something in a lab and jabbing it into our bloodstream was necessary or desirable.

When the answer is to adjust our lifestyles in order to support HER master creation, our bodies and their immune system.

If we lived and ate properly, our innate immune system would suffice for most of what would come our way and our adaptive immune system would take care of the rest.

Instead, due to our ignorant ways, our immune system fails us and our solution is to BYPASS the innate immune system and inject foreign microbes and "adjuvants" in a way that the adaptive immune system must react without benefit of the normal process and it's signalling.

Then for a hundred years we keep doubling down on the failure because we know better and if we don't, we will get it right with the next voodoo potion.

Oh, and just ignore and/or persecute all the natural health whackos who actually cure people because they cramp our style and kill our cash cow.
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Check this out...Pfizer

2/25/21

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.
 Quoting: _Trey_


Correct. It is currently under a Emergency Use Authorization .... also known as phase 4 trials.

That’s just wording.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


phase 3 i believe
 Quoting: _Trey_


That’s done.

:)

PFIZER AND BIONTECH ANNOUNCE PUBLICATION OF RESULTS FROM LANDMARK PHASE 3 TRIAL OF BNT162B2 COVID-19 VACCINE CANDIDATE IN THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE

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Open letter from Dr Gerry Vanden Bossche warning the world of pending doom following mass vaccination.

In summary:

Using a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic will cause variants to the point where vaccines won’t work at all.

Also the artificial production of antibodies for a specific virus could weaken the normal response to other variants and other coronaviruses. Causing our natural immune system to fail.

Thus killing off many of the vaccinated ( and the non vaccinated ).

Please read.....



More detail...


 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Wow! He would have to throw us under the bus too!

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Snip from the Doc's second letter.

Selectve immune evasion also favors further disseminaton of highly infectous strains as mass vaccinaton is now increasingly turning vaccine recipients into asymptomatc spreaders. The later transmit highly infectous virus to the unprotected or not yet infected subjects. This is exactly the opposite of what the vaccines were supposed to do. Indeed, there is now a general consensus that the vaccines will, indeed, fail to generate herd immunity. In additon, they will also fail to eliminate the steadily increasing number of highly infectous strains because the vaccinal antbodies do no longer match with the variant spike protein of the circulatng strains whereas they’re stll hampering binding of natural antbodies to the virus.

We the unvaccinated are now in danger from the vaccinated right?? Am I understanding this correctly?
 Quoting: -Kate-


I don't follow the doc's point either.

He says that immunizing everyone is bad, because it allows the disease to develop a new more deadly strain. But he gives no reason why this would happen any differently if the population is immunized or not.

Only 2 things can happen. The virus can (and will mutate). Then it will spread to everyone it can contact who is not immune to it.

So far, so good. But by definition, the new virus he postulates, as being more deadly and not destroyed by our immune systems would get released in any event. Whether or not the population was vaccinated, it would not matter. Because nobody is immune to the new strain.

Makes no sense to me. The only dangerous mechanism I can see from immunizations and lockdowns, is maintaining the virus active and in the wild for a much longer time period than a fast burnout to the point of herd immunity would achieve. And if this enabled more SUCCESSIVE virus mutated replications, ie, it mutates once, then that mutated strain gains population, then mutates again, until there is no longer enough of the original protein sequence remaining that the immune system can recognize.

Maybe that is what he finally talks about later in his paper, but there is no mention of such in the 1 page open letter he penned. Or maybe it is obvious to virologists, such that he doesn't feel the need to explain it. Or maybe it is covered by their understanding of the term "Viral immune escape"
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


Several scenarios are unfolding according to the type of vaccine. In the instance of the 'artificial,' the spawn is a derivative of ncard - unnatural new strain (so not a mutant, yet the mod'd homosap may be).
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Another virologist about to be suicided.
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Normally I'd agree but my Spidey senses are telling me otherwise. Perhaps the wet work teams are on strike due to no payola. A lot of pot o' currencies are dwindling due to the rat lines feeding into the coffers being shut down.

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Isn't a DVM a vet? I'm just trying to track down his credentials, not that I disagree with him.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Yes initially a vet. Don’t see this as an issue.
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I actually see it as a strength in his background, he has a much wider perspective of inter species similarities/parallels/differences.
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