Chauvin Trial Day 10 - Uncensored Alternative

Quit crying about the corrupt system, like you could make it better. I find most people that cry about the system would most likely be losers in any system.

Chauvin was only doing his job. Chauvin was called to the scene due to fake money being handed out at the store. I doubt if he wanted to kill anyone. George Floyd acted like a criminal passing phony money in a store and hanging with a drug dealer and resisting arrest! Now it showed from another angle that the cops knee was on Floyd's shoulder. And no I'm not racist.

and you are dumber than a fucking stone

After 18 complaints of excessive force and not a single punishment, I think he thought he'd get away with it. I also think he is a dangerous psychopath who will kill again

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We all know he isn't guilty

Well I and people I care about don’t break the law and don’t fight with police so I don’t see how that will happen.

All the defense will need to do is show the thousands of people who have died with that level of drug cocktail, then show the thousands who have survived the knee hold and that alone is reasonable doubt.

The state must prove the knee was the sole cause and I don’t see it with him spewing meth and fentanyl pills out of his mouth all over the scene.

No one ever does until it does.

Chauvin would kill you just as quick as he killed floyd

If the same exact thing was done to you , you would die, and Chauvin knew that

I totally agree. In a way you could say George Floyd gave his life to save the lives of others that Chauvin would have surely killed in future. .

To call a thread uncensored you sure are biased...

I'm not sure you understand what uncensored means. In fact I'm fairly certain you don't.

I would like to think if Floyd and three other men had done this to Chauvin, I would feel exactly the same way about it, and see Floyd as a sadistic murderer that needs to be put down like a rabid dog.

That's the difference between you and I, and why I'm not biased and you are. Costumes and jewelry or color of skin have nothing to do with guilt or innocence, except that a person paid to enforce the law and ensure the safety of the public who has a suspect subdued and in handcuffs should certainly be held to a much higher standard of legal and moral conduct.

There have been so many of these grievous assaults on human decency committed by persons who have the power of life and death over us who seem to be rarely held to account, and none of them have changed anything. I think thats why people are so angry at this point.

When I see that other thread being pinned every day all day and read the comments on it, the one thing I take solace in is the people involving themselves with it and recording their comments will surely live or die regretting it eventually.


Their whole way of looking at things is a white man killed a black man, so it's a good kill. Repeatedly under the most grievous of circumstance we have seen this same pattern, it's frightening knowing there are so many people out there who think like this, and portends of collapse of civilization.

Reading their comments leaves me with little hope for the future of our country, because these people don't seem to realize the noose of government oppression that they are tightening is around their own necks. If Chauvin gets off, when the same thing happens to them that happened to Floyd, no one is going to want to hear the claims of police misconduct, the precedent will be set that it is ok for police to kill us as long as they use an IDF trained and approved technique to do it.

I wouldn't want this to happen to me either, if I didn't have a heart attack that came about because of drug use and disease of my own to no fault of another party if I chose to resist arrest, as happened to Floyd, either.

I also wouldn't want to be someone charged in Floyd's heart disease with fabricated charges, including allegations I had my knee on his neck suffocating him (didn't happen; no block of oxygen) and knee on his back compressing his ability to inhale/exhale (didn't happen; his other leg was barely on the side of his back, mostly aimed at his elbow off his body and doesn't appear to be anywhere near his lungs).

I do believe (barring any info to change my mind) the officer committed manslaughter by showing a disregard for Floyd's medical emergency and continuing to show an indifference after he went limp, but when it comes to murder? Stop falsifying stuff to support your bogus charges. I have NO IDEA if this is encompassed by 2nd degree manslaughter, but he does appear to have done some wrong. I also saw this officer grab both sides of Floyd's neck with his hands which to me shows malice. (The basic pin was not unlawful. It was a pin not a neck restraint which involves both arms around the neck. Pins are permitted for passive resistance, the lowest level of resistance, although it is strongly discouraged around the neck -- the witness never said it was unlawful.)

I would expect for ANYONE a fair trial. This INCLUDES proper recognition of the fact that if you believe him complaining about his inability to breathe as evidence of his suffocation, then you should also include assessment of the fact that he complained of the exact same thing 4 times before the alleged suffocation on the ground. The left have failed at this task utterly (not a single one of their witnesses who used it in their claims of suffocation addressed the fact that it proceeded him being on the ground), they just want to convict at ALL COSTS misrepresenting the case to do it. And these tactics have widespread acceptance among the Democrats and left. That's the scary part.

Last Edited by GooPile on 04/10/2021 08:04 AM

You can call it what you want, and jump through all the hoops you want to justifying it, but in the end Chauvin murdered him in my opinion with premeditation, and a man who would do this to another human being over 20 dollars is too dangerous to let loose on the streets. Take another look at the snuff video, and look at the look on Chauvins face, and tell me you don't see sadistic gratification, pleasure.

I've already posted the proof Chauvin was trained and knew what he was doing would kill, and that the necking technique is designed to cut off blood to the brain.

Floyd did not have a heart attack. Cardiac arrest does not mean "heart attack", Floyd died of a lack of oxygen to the brain and organs. As the medical experts all explained, all cardiac arrest really means is the heart stopped beating. Everyone who dies experiences cardiac arrest.

Floyd was dead a full four minuted before Chauvin got up off of him, several minutes after he was told Floyd had no pulse. IMO that amounts to premeditated murder.

Again, look at the look on his face. That is the face of a dangerous psychopath. He looks like he's enjoying it.

And this is what the jury saw. IMO Chauvin has zero chance of acquittal, but he will likely have a hung jury because there are so many people who just don't really care that Floyd was murdered, as evidenced on this forum.

One huge difference in this case though is the police in the area dont seem to be supportive of Chauvin, and fear of revenge is always a factor when cops are acquitted since juries know the cops will find out who they are. IMO this is the primary reason why juries are so reluctant to convict cops.

He had the exact same phrase: "I can't breathe" 4 times before being pinned on the ground. Okay, let's say he was prophetic and really did die of suffocation. Nevertheless, he said the exact same thing which provides reasonable doubt that he suffocated as a result of the pin. Additionally he said those words, while in a tussle with police, with no evidence the police were obstructing his ability to breathe. Accept it, it is an in stone FACT. You can't pick and choose facts, he said those exact words before he was even on the ground! Are you seriously this blinded by ideology that you can't accept all facts from all sides?

Secondly, the prosecution isn't alleging that the neck restraint caused him to not be able to breathe. He doesn't appear to have blocked one artery, let alone two and he wasnt obstructing his breathing passages. The coroner said in his view the neck compression did not cause asphyxiation. The prosecution had two witnesses who testified it was the pressing of his second leg on his back that hindered Floyd's ability to inhale/exhale, but the leg was off the side only glancing his back. It didn't appear to pressure down on his lungs. Besides, there was a study in Canada that showed 0 out of 3,000 similar incidents resulted in an inability to breathe.

Thirdly, you don't judge a persons guilt by the look on their faces, or any matter of appearance. That is a dangerous road to cross, because looks can be deceiving and you don't want people who don't like the looks of certain people (eg. colour of skin, ugly, autists who have trouble looking people in the eye) prejudging them. Do I think that he looked like he had a malicious side to him? Yes. Do I know for a fact that he was being malicious by the looks of him? No. The two are unrelated.

And even if you could tell for sure based on appearance, it does not blanket mean he murdered this man. There are different charges and I am just about the only one who has the brain to actually differentiate them. Murder 2 and 3 require solid proof that his actions killed him. You need to establish that first. His grin means NOTHING as it relates to that. That is an objective truth in and of itself. And as mentioned, combined with the heart disease, there is no way of conclusively knowing.

And to make matters worse, you're ignoring the evidence that contradicts it while making a case, which is a half-truth, which is a lie. Second degree manslaughter, however, does not (to my awareness) require proof that his actions led to his death. Even if you could establish that he was depraved, without proving his actions actually killed him you have to settle for the manslaughter charge, and do I believe he was guilty of mansalughter? So far, and as I understand it, yes.

Last Edited by GooPile on 04/10/2021 08:55 PM

Would you rather

have a 150 pound cop put one knee on you back for 10 minutes

or

take a lethal-level drug overdose?

“Would George have died just then without part of the blood being cut off to his brain? Almost certainly not. That being the case, this was at least manslaughter.“

Not sure where you trained Doc, but the above is NOT a true statement.

LETHAL level of fentanyl. 3X the LETHAL level.

That is the definition of reasonable doubt.